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Ashlaika

@Ashlaika

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Posted: 13 years ago

#81

We all hoping for the CVs to wake up and get some sense and steer this rocking ship to smooth waters.

But honestly, the CVs cant satisfy us ALL.

Whatever action Purvi and Sulo takes, half the forum will be happy and half will be dissatisfied.

Just a few things... Tanya, Naava... I love all of ur comments. I see and understand your frustration when we have been looking and devoting our time to this show for 3 years + . I loved ArMan in the early days. I didnt like how the show turned when they ALL started to treat Soham bad and how the Soham track turned out. And i also think they were ALL wrong, Manav, Archana, Savita, Sulo, Varsha, even Satish to an extent (My opinion).

But... like Tanya... i agree. Its ok for Purvi and Arjun to be happy. So what if she is being selfish. Its not like she forgot about her mother, she is still there and will come to support her if needs be. Just as Archana's challenge got Arjun and Purvi together (living in the same chawl), Purvi's interference in the divorce case got Manav and Archana under the same roof and living together. So Purvi played her part. Now its time for Teju to get to work and do her part and soon Soham will play his part as well. They all cant interfere at the same time... that would just be too much interferences 😊.

BUTTT... why in the world so many of us are emphasing the fact that Archana and Manav story line should be separate from Arvi and still we criticise and buse that Purvi isnt playing a part. We CANNOT have it both ways.

1. I love ArMan like all of us on this forum. I'm happy Soham is back and im glad they are focusing on building and reconciling ArMan again.

2. That does not mean we have to bash and criticise what Arjun and Purvi has. Purvi is not being selfish because she is supporting the man she genuinely loves and Arjun made mistakes, but he is trying to make up for them. I say power to you Purvi, not all sacrifices are good sacrifices, so may u and Arjun win ur challenge. AND WE CAN GET THE ARJUN SIR BACK (I dont too like the mechanic - however sweet he is, he can be a sweet boss later down the line and back in those 3 piece suits).

3. It would NOT have been better if he stayed and married Ovi. Unreciprocated or one-sided love is unhealthy and will make both parties very unhappy in the long run. For now we can understand and sympathise with Ovi and her pain, but that does not make what ArVi have wrong. Its better for Ovi to have pain now before she marries and suffers in the long run. If they had stayed together, sooner or later she would have come out of her bubble and realised that Arjun does not love her. Was it wrong what Arjun did - YES!!! But can one be forgiven for their mistakes that they tried to rectify - YES!!!

4. On and off in this forum we talk about, why Archu gives so much importanct to Sachin and many of us stated that all of Archu's children are equal, including Sachin who is adopted. But, it seems like now we are treating Purvi like the adopted daughter she is and claiming that the show should be about "Arman and their REAL kids". So now we have reverted to thinking that an adopted child is not a "Real kid" ? Whether Archu gave birth to Purvi or not - she is still her daughter.

5. The age thing... come on... pls remember Soham was like 3 when he disappeared and the Twins were 1, Sachin must have been like 8 and Purvi was a toddler when adopted by Archu... so none of them can possibly be 18.

6. Sulo made it clear she is in favour of the divorce and she stands that way... at least that has always been consistent thinking by the CVs, so I guess she is just waiting for the one mth. to finish. She supports Purvi cause in her eyes thats the granddaughter that is there for her. She was very hurt about Teju, but im sure soon she will forgive her and ask about her again soon.

I'm pretty sure that many persons will have issues with this post. But I can assure u, I do not mind and I dont take issue with anyone... I'm just pointing out a few irregularities.

For some of us who stand on BOTH sides of the fence, that is, the Arman side and the Arvi side, we just want to see a good show with BOTH couples and a good outcome for all.

btw. My good outcome would include some sort of punishment for Savita. Even if they all forgive her (which will more than likely will happen - with Archana leading the forgiveness line) she should suffer in some way BEFORE that happens.

I really hope for some good episodes with EVERYONE in it (Oh lord, I guess that includes Varsha ) and a positive track to come.

Edited by Ashlaika - 13 years ago

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@FireLordPhoenix

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Posted: 13 years ago

#82

Thanks for the update Tanya. It was a good episode today. Finally the girls know about Soham.

QUOTE=Tanyaz]Brief Update

Savita tells the girls that Manav lost his first child because Archana had a miscarriage and then Soham was born and that is why Manav loved him so much .But Varsha, Archana's sister could not have a baby so right fro mthe time Soham was born , Varsha just started to believe that Soham was her child .Archana too wanted Varsha to have the child and when Varsha wanted to adopt the baby ,Archana almost gave him up but Manav was never in favour of adoption but Archana never was a good mother or a wife and she trusted her sister more than her husband and that is why Varsha took off with Soham one day and jumped in the lake .She says that after this incident , Manav's heart broke and he couldnever got over the loss of his son .

She cries bitterly and blames the entire incident on Archana and tells the girls that this was the real reason for their parent's divorce .Both the girls are crying a lot after knowing about their big brother Soham .

@ red - Wasn't Manav the one who wanted to officially let Varsha adopt Soham? Why doesn't Savita mention that? I know Archana was wrong to trust Varsha with Soham, especially when Varsha needed psychiatric help, but Manav was equally wrong when he fell for his mother's lies that Archana was giving more importance to Soham than Sachin and that's why he decided to let Varsha and Satish legally adopt Soham. Savita is a shameless grandmother. Isn't a grandmother like a mother to her grandchildren? She always cries when her children (Manav and Vandu) go through pain yet she was the one who didn;t care for her grandsons when she made Manav believe that Soham is better off with Varsha. Not only that, Sachin, the grandson whom she was so attached to that she told Shravani to leave her son with his Aaji, she even didn't spare him. She was so intent on sending him off with Shravani just to hurt Archana. Savita cannot be redeemed as a mother or grandmother and I hope the day her ruth comes out is very near. I cannot tolerate her wailing, shouting, and lies further. Ushaji is a terrific actress but Savita is one annoying character.

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Jaishankar

@Jaishankar

Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

#83

Originally posted by: Ashlaika
We all hoping for the CVs to wake up and get some sense and steer this rocking ship to smooth waters.

But honestly, the CVs cant satisfy us ALL.

Whatever action Purvi and Sulo takes, half the forum will be happy and half will be dissatisfied.

Just a few things... Tanya, Naava... I love all of ur comments. I see and understand your frustration when we have been looking and devoting our time to this show for 3 years + . I loved ArMan in the early days. I didnt like how the show turned when they ALL started to treat Soham bad and how the Soham track turned out. And i also think they were ALL wrong, Manav, Archana, Savita, Sulo, Varsha, even Satish to an extent (My opinion).

But... like Tanya... i agree. Its ok for Purvi and Arjun to be happy. So what if she is being selfish. Its not like she forgot about her mother, she is still there and will come to support her if needs be. Just as Archana's challenge got Arjun and Purvi together (living in the same chawl), Purvi's interference in the divorce case got Manav and Archana under the same roof and living together. So Purvi played her part. Now its time for Teju to get to work and do her part and soon Soham will play his part as well. They all cant interfere at the same time... that would just be too much interferences 😊.

BUTTT... why in the world so many of us are emphasing the fact that Archana and Manav story line should be separate from Arvi and still we criticise and buse that Purvi isnt playing a part. We CANNOT have it both ways.

1. I love ArMan like all of us on this forum. I'm happy Soham is back and im glad they are focusing on building and reconciling ArMan again.

2. That does not mean we have to bash and criticise what Arjun and Purvi has. Purvi is not being selfish because she is supporting the man she genuinely loves and Arjun made mistakes, but he is trying to make up for them. I say power to you Purvi, not all sacrifices are good sacrifices, so may u and Arjun win ur challenge. AND WE CAN GET THE ARJUN SIR BACK (I dont too like the mechanic - however sweet he is, he can be a sweet boss later down the line and back in those 3 piece suits).

3. It would NOT have been better if he stayed and married Ovi. Unreciprocated or one-sided love is unhealthy and will make both parties very unhappy in the long run. For now we can understand and sympathise with Ovi and her pain, but that does not make what ArVi have wrong. Its better for Ovi to have pain now before she marries and suffers in the long run. If they had stayed together, sooner or later she would have come out of her bubble and realised that Arjun does not love her. Was it wrong what Arjun did - YES!!! But can one be forgiven for their mistakes that they tried to rectify - YES!!!

4. On and off in this forum we talk about, why Archu gives so much importanct to Sachin and many of us stated that all of Archu's children are equal, including Sachin who is adopted. But, it seems like now we are treating Purvi like the adopted daughter she is and claiming that the show should be about "Arman and their REAL kids". So now we have reverted to thinking that an adopted child is not a "Real kid" ? Whether Archu gave birth to Purvi or not - she is still her daughter.

5. The age thing... come on... pls remember Soham was like 3 when he disappeared and the Twins were 1, Sachin must have been like 8 and Purvi was a toddler when adopted by Archu... so none of them can possibly be 18.

6. Sulo made it clear she is in favour of the divorce and she stands that way... at least that has always been consistent thinking by the CVs, so I guess she is just waiting for the one mth. to finish. She supports Purvi cause in her eyes thats the granddaughter that is there for her. She was very hurt about Teju, but im sure soon she will forgive her and ask about her again soon.

I'm pretty sure that many persons will have issues with this post. But I can assure u, I do not mind and I dont take issue with anyone... I'm just pointing out a few irregularities.

For some of us who stand on BOTH sides of the fence, that is, the Arman side and the Arvi side, we just want to see a good show with BOTH couples and a good outcome for all.

btw. My good outcome would include some sort of punishment for Savita. Even if they all forgive her (which will more than likely will happen - with Archana leading the forgiveness line) she should suffer in some way BEFORE that happens.

I really hope for some good episodes with EVERYONE in it (Oh lord, I guess that includes Varsha ) and a positive track to come.

Hi Ashla,

Very well written post...I would like to add a few from my perspective. The very reason I say that Arman track n Arvi track need to run parallely is coz of the fact how CV's have portrayed Arman as individuals. Arman as I mentioned have always been those people who will always keep others over themselves. So far in the three long years of this show there has been never a instance where Arman have been given a freedom to think about themselves.

Arvi are young ,independent ,smart couple. They have their own life to live and their associated issues.They can also be a helpful hands to Arman in need and Arman can do the same but before that all the prolonged half baked issues and storylines kept for the past 18 years need to be sorted out. First Arman need to help them-self and their relationship mess which is affecting their children life badly. Only when their relationship mess is solved they can involve and help others otherwise they will be creating complications for themselves and all others.

Another resounding MU is for Archu and her kids. Archu and her biological kids have a major patch up job. Purvi is never neglected here. Purvi has found her love and is moving on in her life but Archu is going no where. Rightly Purvi is focusing on her love life and the issues surrounding it but at the same time its imp for Archu to get her daughters back too for the 18 years long torture she and her daughters had to bear.Archu has never or well ever differentiate between her children,hell Sachu still is her elder son and loves him a lot.Purvi is moving on with her life but at the same time Archu also needs a chance to move on and CV's need to provide her that chance instead of asking Archu do illogical challenges and suffer further.Hence its important now for all the tortures Archu has suffered she get together with her daughters soon.This track has been going off beat lately. But Soham track is giving hope.

Soham is the core reason for the 18 year leap taking place and hence its eminent that Arman n Soham confrontation alone take place as this is the core storyline that has been left open for a long time. This storyline needs to be completed with a lot of confrontations between Soham n Arman as justice needs to be done for Soham by Arman .Soham deviating towards Arvi is total non-sense and hope CV's dont do that.

Arvi formed its fan base through its originality like their confession scene. This copy cat scenarios of Old Arman scenes and with Arjun being a mechanic like Manav is making Arvi loose their originality in my opinion . CV's need to get Arjun back to office work even in small office along with Purvi and get them back on track instead of blindly trying to copy the scenarios that clicked before with Arman.Arman n Arvi scenarios are completely different and there is no comparison there.

I hope see in this Soham track all the half baked long lost MU's and storylines get a full completion that it deserves and hope CV;s do justice as well for Arvi by giving them their orginal storyline back.

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orianthi

@orianthi

Voyager

Posted: 13 years ago

#84

Is it against forum rules to say that Savita's character has lived too long?😆

Wait so let me guess, now Teju will be mad at Archu for another episode then she will change her mind again in the next and so on and so on. Right? Can they just make up their minds and end this track. Week after week it is the same drama with these girls and their witch of a grandmother. I am sick of it! At least show us more of ARVI pls. I really do not want to see Ovi, Sachin, Manav, Savita and Teju.

Edited by orianthi - 13 years ago

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@FireLordPhoenix

Rocker

+ 2

Posted: 13 years ago

#85

Originally posted by: tayabafarooqui
well point is where is purvi place in deshmukh life after ovi's heart break no place for her its up to ovi who can forgive and accept arvi and move on but even after that i will want manav o give equal love to all his children dont show tooo much love to purvi this will hurt ovi teju again .but somewhere i find purvi little bit selfish i dont know ilike arjun purvi but purvi never ever think abt ovi purvi always use to do ba ba now where is her love for ba ba she is just busy with arjun in fulfilling that stupid condition.arjun truly left ovi for someone else no matter for sake of purvi love but ovi will take time to face and accept this.

Purvi did care about Ovi when she found out about Arjun and Ovi. She even tried to get Arjun closer to Ovi. But when Purvi started sacrificing for Arjun no one was happy with that track because it was all nonsense. Purvi isn't being selfish now if she is busy with Arjun. She was even worried about Ovi when Ovi came to her house with a check trying to buy Arjun off. Now Purvi can't do anything for Ovi. Whatever needs to be done now must be done by ARMAN. I'm glad to see that Manav and Archana are slowly helping Ovi. If Purvi came to see Ovi and tried to help her, Ovi will just lash out at Purvi. Archana is Ovi's mother so she is tolerating Ovi's bad attitude towards herself because Ovi is heartbroken and needs help and attention. But Ovi won't be happy with Purvi's presence and might just make matters worse for both Purvi and her family. I don't want to see Purvi sacrifice her love again especially because it won't help Ovi. Arjun doesn't love her and never will and there is no use in leading Ovi on. I think it's good that Purvi is thinking about herself now.

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-Naresh-

@-Naresh-

Rocker

+ 5

Posted: 13 years ago

#86

Originally posted by: Jaishankar
I just hope Tanya dear that Soham track is focused on Arman and not divert Soham to interfere in Arvi which makes so no sense.
Also hope they put an end to this mechanic avatar of Arjun and show at least him working in a small office and not a mechanic. Meaning of education is made totally useless by the CV's.This whole challenge fiasco has to come to end soon so that Archu n Manav can have their focus set on Soham.
I would like to see a scenario where Arman from this kidnap scenario just get a small hint may be Archu gets it and she shares her emotions with Manav.May be this scenario seeing the emotions of her,Manav slowly ponders on what really happened 18 years back and together they search for clues for Soham and this slowly bridges the gap.This could be the first half of the storyline and next is "Get Soham back " mission which they can focus on once Arman find Soham.They can make this storyline much more interesting here.Hope Cv's do some justice to the main leads here by allowing them to at last know their priorities and for once getting to do something for themselves and for their life n kids.

PS : As per percap if Manav works from home and Ovi goes to office then high chance Ovi gets kidnapped or may be Vishnu knowing Archu as Manav's wife may be all of a sudden Kidnaps Archu as Tyaba dear mentioned. IT would be interesting to see what happens.Hope the build up turns into a good interesting storyline.

yes jai i also want to cv's focus only soham-archana-manav track...😉

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Guggu_Minty

@Guggu_Minty

Rocker

+ 4

Posted: 13 years ago

#87

Jai, I think Manav only will be kidnapped and that too during the dahi handi celebration in the chawl.. I hope its Archana only for his rescue and no one else.. So that there be would no distraction in the track..

Edited by AshuNaik - 13 years ago

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naava

@naava

Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

#88

Originally posted by: Thanee
But one thing I've seen Tej keep the pic even been tear up..

Thanee i was so shocked when Savita ripped up that picture.😡..a picture not belonging to her...there is nothing about this woman that deserves respect...what will archana feel when she sees this picture all torn up...i feel also that eventually Teju will get to the bottom of it...i just hope she doesn't have a hate period first...what an evil woman Savita..

You know, her heart is so black, a thought has occurred to me recently...and i think someone else on the forum mentioned it too...i just wonder...if Savita sowed some seeds of kidnapping into Varsha's head...

Avi scene ...dears ok I will stop telling repeating scene ...I will just enjoy now seeing these two..I like Arvi ..Today they were as if a married couple...I just like how they talk..How they smile to each other..How they eat together...simple scene ..but very well done by Arvi(Ashvik)👏 Even the scene has been repeating we can't say these two were not cute together...

Really they refresh PR...and I don't like cv's repeating each Arman scene.😡.but I like this JOdi Too..they are cute together...and a very beautiful JOdi...Like to see them together...so for now will just enjoy what Arvi will show me.😊

Even though it's so dumb to repeat the Arman stories ( 😕 ) i also find their love sweet and refreshing...they are darling together...for me they are a lovely addition. But this should be first and foremost about ARMAN...After PR is ended, they could do another show with ARVI as the leads...

I saw posts saying Purvi is selfish...really I don't think so..what all had happen its not her faults ..she has just love someone..so why she can't be happy dear ...for Ovi she must try to accept reality.Purvi is the last person who can help her...Ovi too its not her fault...she had loved someone who never loved her..😔..
i saw that too..don't understand that at all....we beg and plead for Archana to stand up for herself and take care of herself and be happy in her love... all Purvi is doing like you say is being happy in her love...i think it's very sweet she has gone to his chawl and taking care of him...they are very sweet together. And he really appreciates her.

for Arjun..he is not a bad guy...he made a big mistake but is trying to repair it...so what to say...for these two (ARVI)...they deserve to be happy...They are supporting each other for their love..I don't see Purvi is selfish here but she is just in Love...

Oh i think Arjun is a very sweet guy, who is growing up, thinking of others. I may be the only one on the forum who loves him this way so much better than the cocky arrogant business boss. He is macho but tender...to me the winning combo...much sexier imo. 😉

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naava

@naava

Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

#89

Originally posted by: Ashlaika
We all hoping for the CVs to wake up and get some sense and steer this rocking ship to smooth waters.

But honestly, the CVs cant satisfy us ALL.

Whatever action Purvi and Sulo takes, half the forum will be happy and half will be dissatisfied.

Just a few things... Tanya, Naava... I love all of ur comments. I see and understand your frustration when we have been looking and devoting our time to this show for 3 years + . I loved ArMan in the early days. I didnt like how the show turned when they ALL started to treat Soham bad and how the Soham track turned out. And i also think they were ALL wrong, Manav, Archana, Savita, Sulo, Varsha, even Satish to an extent (My opinion).

But... like Tanya... i agree. Its ok for Purvi and Arjun to be happy. So what if she is being selfish. Its not like she forgot about her mother, she is still there and will come to support her if needs be. Just as Archana's challenge got Arjun and Purvi together (living in the same chawl), Purvi's interference in the divorce case got Manav and Archana under the same roof and living together. So Purvi played her part. Now its time for Teju to get to work and do her part and soon Soham will play his part as well. They all cant interfere at the same time... that would just be too much interferences 😊.

BUTTT... why in the world so many of us are emphasing the fact that Archana and Manav story line should be separate from Arvi and still we criticise and buse that Purvi isnt playing a part. We CANNOT have it both ways.

1. I love ArMan like all of us on this forum. I'm happy Soham is back and im glad they are focusing on building and reconciling ArMan again.

2. That does not mean we have to bash and criticise what Arjun and Purvi has. Purvi is not being selfish because she is supporting the man she genuinely loves and Arjun made mistakes, but he is trying to make up for them. I say power to you Purvi, not all sacrifices are good sacrifices, so may u and Arjun win ur challenge. AND WE CAN GET THE ARJUN SIR BACK (I dont too like the mechanic - however sweet he is, he can be a sweet boss later down the line and back in those 3 piece suits).

3. It would NOT have been better if he stayed and married Ovi. Unreciprocated or one-sided love is unhealthy and will make both parties very unhappy in the long run. For now we can understand and sympathise with Ovi and her pain, but that does not make what ArVi have wrong. Its better for Ovi to have pain now before she marries and suffers in the long run. If they had stayed together, sooner or later she would have come out of her bubble and realised that Arjun does not love her. Was it wrong what Arjun did - YES!!! But can one be forgiven for their mistakes that they tried to rectify - YES!!!

4. On and off in this forum we talk about, why Archu gives so much importanct to Sachin and many of us stated that all of Archu's children are equal, including Sachin who is adopted. But, it seems like now we are treating Purvi like the adopted daughter she is and claiming that the show should be about "Arman and their REAL kids". So now we have reverted to thinking that an adopted child is not a "Real kid" ? Whether Archu gave birth to Purvi or not - she is still her daughter.

5. The age thing... come on... pls remember Soham was like 3 when he disappeared and the Twins were 1, Sachin must have been like 8 and Purvi was a toddler when adopted by Archu... so none of them can possibly be 18.

6. Sulo made it clear she is in favour of the divorce and she stands that way... at least that has always been consistent thinking by the CVs, so I guess she is just waiting for the one mth. to finish. She supports Purvi cause in her eyes thats the granddaughter that is there for her. She was very hurt about Teju, but im sure soon she will forgive her and ask about her again soon.

I'm pretty sure that many persons will have issues with this post. But I can assure u, I do not mind and I dont take issue with anyone... I'm just pointing out a few irregularities.

For some of us who stand on BOTH sides of the fence, that is, the Arman side and the Arvi side, we just want to see a good show with BOTH couples and a good outcome for all.

btw. My good outcome would include some sort of punishment for Savita. Even if they all forgive her (which will more than likely will happen - with Archana leading the forgiveness line) she should suffer in some way BEFORE that happens.

I really hope for some good episodes with EVERYONE in it (Oh lord, I guess that includes Varsha ) and a positive track to come.

EXCELLENT post Ashlaika .!!👍🏼 i really agree with ALL of it !!

edit. i just want to add one little thing about Arjun. When i say i like him better now than when he was the arrogant boss i don't mean that i necessarily want him to be a mechanic.. nor do i dislike him as a mechanic. the point is that this experience was absolutely necessary for Arjun to grow up. We may think he looks better in a 3 pc suit, but he can be a boss in any clothes...(personally i like him in t-shirts 😆 )...What i am trying to say is that growing up and understanding where others are coming from is a lesson that may be painful. Arjun is doing a marvelous job in accepting this humble way of learning. His attitude shows what he is made of...he has my deep respect for how he is handling this Invaluable lesson. I really hope he doesn't go back to DK's business...i hope he starts a business helping small businesses in the chawl develop themselves, or does something the reaches the needs of people...It would be a huge success and do a lot of good at the same time.

Edited by naava - 13 years ago

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sashashyam

@sashashyam

Sparkler

+ 3

Posted: 13 years ago

#90

Dear Ashlaika,

Truly a SUPERB post. You have done a masterful job of analysis and your conclusions are impeccable. Your post says everything that needed to be said, and I do hope that it stems the tide of this Arman vs Arvi discontent on the part of some of us.

Naava, I agree with your take on what Arjun should do in the future; I do not think, with his now acute sensitivity to the sufferings of others, that he would be satisfied any more with just making money. It is interesting that it is the rich kid who is transformed, like the young Siddhartha, into an ultra caring and considerate person who has compassion for all those who have been shortchanged by fate and the system, whereas those who have lived in the chawl all their lives have so little compassion for one of their own, Manav, when he is in trouble.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: naava

EXCELLENT post Ashlaika .!!👍🏼 i really agree with ALL of it !!

edit. i just want to add one little thing about Arjun. When i say i like him better now than when he was the arrogant boss i don't mean that i necessarily want him to be a mechanic.. nor do i dislike him as a mechanic. the point is that this experience was absolutely necessary for Arjun to grow up. We may think he looks better in a 3 pc suit, but he can be a boss in any clothes...(personally i like him in t-shirts 😆 )...What i am trying to say is that growing up and understanding where others are coming from is a lesson that may be painful. Arjun is doing a marvelous job in accepting this humble way of learning. His attitude shows what he is made of...he has my deep respect for how he is handling this Invaluable lesson. I really hope he doesn't go back to DK's business...i hope he starts a business helping small businesses in the chawl develop themselves, or does something the reaches the needs of people...It would be a huge success and do a lot of good at the same time.

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