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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Thanee


Heh Mandy...I clicked on post reply for my post..then I see your post...like what you write..

Me too.. Don't like How Archu is treating Arjun...Arjun is having all humiliation Manv got...mean old Manv..from Sulo in the past dear...

At least let him do..if he is dreaming let him dream...it his dream who is giving him his strenght Now..let him.

Really I'm sad..for Arjun😔...Archu disappointed me👎🏼...Really I didn't expect hearing..that from Archu mouth..""Where You will live with Purvi..here ..in that Gaar????"" which confused me after..😕


Thanee, while i fully understand and support Archana for not trusting Arjun (from her perspective) the CV's have shifted her stance regarding her challenge if she indeed did say this., and it is totally out of character for her character (no pun intended ! haha)

She;s not money hungry as some characters on the show (and some viewers as well) like to think she is. She doesn't care about status etc. She is scared Purvi will get hurt. I think she's overwhelmed with everything that goes wrong in her life just when she trusts it. I think she's just kind of shut down her positive loving emotions and she's decided she has to be tough in life...(she should be so tough regarding her own relationship with Manav and the D's !!)

This could be a bad sign. It makes me uneasy...do you think the writers are going to turn her into a totally different person...a sort of negative character like they did Manav? Cold and hard and even abusive.

What kind of a show destroys it's own leads? 😕


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Posted: 13 years ago
I hv yet nt watchd d epi bt frm ur update m eagr to watch
i lyk d way arjun politely told archana abt his
bt 2dy i felt archana corect in sm way ne gal's mother wud get insecure if a guy has alredy broke relatn wit hr odr gal n in dis archana thot dat arjun agreed to marry ovi bcz he love hr as manav said hr same so qstns r 2 b arise if he left ovi he cn leave purvi as wel bt ya v knw he wont
i lyk purvi witout shwin hr concern doin dis lyk givin umbrella 4 me dis is true love
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Posted: 13 years ago
Dear GManda,

As for Arjun choosing Archana to return the ring, perhaps it was because he though she would still be there in the Karanjkar residence after she had finished chewing him out, and that she would be returning to the Deshmukh residence immediately after. It is something that occurs to him on the spur of the moment, as he is looking at the tiffin carrier. He could not have handed it over to Teju when she met him at the garage, as he would not have been carrying it on him.

It was not the best choice, the best would have been Teju. as for returning it himself, the case against that has been made superbly by Laurie, earlier on this thread. In any case, there is hardly any compulsion on Archana to comply; she can always refuse to do it.

@ red. Well, if I had been Purvi's mother, then she would definitely NOT have acted 'like a scaredy cat". That, however, would have been because:

1) I would not have slapped her so hard, not let her get a word in edgeways, and then told her I did not want to see her face and she should go away.

2) I would NEVER have told her to choose between me and Arjun. This is the worst form of emotional blackmail, and effectively amounts to demanding abject obedience from Purvi, without ever asking her for her side of the story, as my parvarish ki keemat, like the doodh ki keemat that mothers in the old films used to demand to whip their sons into line.

3) I would not have glared at the shrinking girl every time I came face to face with her, and cross-questioned her with a harshness that would have done the Spanish Inquisition proud. I would not have snarled at her Kahaan gayee thi? with my eyes as hard as agates.

4) I would not, as Archana did today, have dragged Purvi to the door and saying that if she wanted to see Arjun so badly, she should go and stay with him? It reminded me of the old, melodramatic Indian films of the 60s and 70s, when erring daughters were dragged by their father and cast out of their home for having dared to fall in love with someone not chosen by their parents. To call it ugly would be a major understatement.

5) I would not go on repeating to Purvi that Arjun is going to fail,when all indications are to the contrary. If Purvi was not such an aai-worshipper, she would have started suspecting Archana's motives long since, and realised that Archana does not WANT Arjun to win.

6) Most important of all, I would have sat Purvi down on the very first day I saw her with Arjun, for a heart to heart talk, and then, if I had still been doubtful of Arjun's steadiness, I would have communicated that to Purvi calmly and in an affectionate and trusting manner. I would have empathised with the suffering she was going though, even if I felt that she was in the wrong.

Then, if I had not wanted Purvi to keep up the relationship with Arjun till matters were cleared up, I would have asked that of her, and she would have complied. Not out of the kind of petrifying fear that paralyses Purvi these days whenever Archana shows up, but willingly, out of love for the concerns of a mother who has taken the trouble to listen to her and to understand her feelings.

Let me, in conclusion, add just one thing. If your child behaves, as you put it so well, like a scaredy cat, then that is YOUR failure as a parent. It is NOT the child's fault. NEVER.

Shyamala B.Cowsik


Originally posted by: GManda72

I dont understand why Arjun chose archana to return the ring to ovi! 👎🏼 👎🏼
Archana as a mother is concerned about purvi so why is purvi acting like a scaredy cat? And I can accuse sulochana of not being concerned about ovi too! Why is she not her granddaughter too? And a human being whose heart had been broken by Arjun? What a stupid accusation !

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Posted: 13 years ago
Arjun's "spur of the moment" decision can land archana into more trouble . Don't tell me that arjun cannot make that out. Or perhaps it does not matter to him .
Just like archana can choose not to return it so can Arjun choose not to become a mechanic and "bold" purvi can choose not to behave like archanas victim.
So why is only archana wrong in everything. As a mother she is right in whAt she is thinking about Arjun's credibility.
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Posted: 13 years ago
Maybe, from her point of view, in so far as one can form a point of view without getting to know all the facts.

However, she is not right in the way she behaves, especially towards Purvi. It is NOT the way in which I would treat a daughter of mine, however upset I was with her. I do not think you can disagree with me on this. Would you treat your daughter that way? No, you would not. I am sure of that.

Purvi is behaving like a victim because she loves her mother more than anyone else, and also because, right now, she is terrified of her. That is how both beaten wives and abused children behave, whence the term 'beaten wife syndrome'. Exactly what Archana displays vis a vis Savita.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: GManda72

Arjun's "spur of the moment" decision can land archana into more trouble . Don't tell me that arjun cannot make that out. Or perhaps it does not matter to him .
Just like archana can choose not to return it so can Arjun choose not to become a mechanic and "bold" purvi can choose not to behave like archanas victim.
So why is only archana wrong in everything. As a mother she is right in whAt she is thinking about Arjun's credibility.

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Dear GManda,

As for Arjun choosing Archana to return the ring, perhaps it was because he though she would still be there in the Karanjkar residence after she had finished chewing him out, and that she would be returning to the Deshmukh residence immediately after. It is something that occurs to him on the spur of the moment, as he is looking at the tiffin carrier. He could not have handed it over to Teju when she met him at the garage, as he would not have been carrying it on him.

It was not the best choice, the best would have been Teju. as for returning it himself, the case against that has been made superbly by Laurie, earlier on this thread. In any case, there is hardly any compulsion on Archana to comply; she can always refuse to do it.

@ red. Well, if I had been Purvi's mother, then she would definitely NOT have acted 'like a scaredy cat". That, however, would have been because:

1) I would not have slapped her so hard, not let her get a word in edgeways, and then told her I did not want to see her face and she should go away.

2) I would NEVER have told her to choose between me and Arjun. This is the worst form of emotional blackmail, and effectively amounts to demanding abject obedience from Purvi, without ever asking her for her side of the story, as my parvarish ki keemat, like the doodh ki keemat that mothers in the old films used to demand to whip their sons into line.

3) I would not have glared at the shrinking girl every time I came face to face with her, and cross-questioned her with a harshness that would have done the Spanish Inquisition proud. I would not have snarled at her Kahaan gayee thi? with my eyes as hard as agates.

4) I would not, as Archana did today, have dragged Purvi to the door and saying that if she wanted to see Arjun so badly, she should go and stay with him? It reminded me of the old, melodramatic Indian films of the 60s and 70s, when erring daughters were dragged by their father and cast out of their home for having dared to fall in love with someone not chosen by their parents. To call it ugly would be a major understatement.

5) I would not go on repeating to Purvi that Arjun is going to fail,when all indications are to the contrary. If Purvi was not such an aai-worshipper, she would have started suspecting Archana's motives long since, and realised that Archana does not WANT Arjun to win.

6) Most important of all, I would have sat Purvi down on the very first day I saw her with Arjun, for a heart to heart talk, and then, if I had still been doubtful of Arjun's steadiness, I would have communicated that to Purvi calmly and in an affectionate and trusting manner. I would have empathised with the suffering she was going though, even if I felt that she was in the wrong.

Then, if I had not wanted Purvi to keep up the relationship with Arjun till matters were cleared up, I would have asked that of her, and she would have complied. Not out of the kind of petrifying fear that paralyses Purvi these days whenever Archana shows up, but willingly, out of love for the concerns of a mother who has taken the trouble to listen to her and to understand her feelings.

Let me, in conclusion, add just one thing. If your child behaves, as you put it so well, like a scaredy cat, then that is YOUR failure as a parent. It is NOT the child's fault. NEVER.

Shyamala B.Cowsik



Shyamala, Neither would i have done any of the things you list because my nature is to forgive and listen. But i will tell tell you as a parent i made plenty of other mistakes. No parent is perfect and children turn out well or with problems all on their own sometimes, in spite of good parenting.

In other words (the character of) Archana is an imperfect human like the rest of us. Purvi and Archana have had a totally soft and loving relationship until this all happened. Purvi may be bewildered by her change but she also can try a little harder to make her point. Archana's reasons are correct, imo, but her delivery is out of character with who she has always been. There was one other time when they had her act out of character and never corrected it.

I think they have overloaded her role with so much trauma and rejection, so much anguish, that no one could really stand up under it, and yet viewers still expect her to be perfect.

Unfortunately, the simple truth is that the CV's do not know how to portray healthy relationships
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Posted: 13 years ago
Dear GManda,

@blue.
Sorry, part of the last sentence got left out. It should actually read: Exactly what Archana displays vis a vis Savita most of the time. On the few occasions when she does not, I feel like cheering.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Maybe, from her point of view, in so far as one can form a point of view without getting to know all the facts.

However, she is not right in the way she behaves, especially towards Purvi. It is NOT the way in which I would treat a daughter of mine, however upset I was with her. I do not think you can disagree with me on this. Would you treat your daughter that way? No, you would not. I am sure of that.

Purvi is behaving like a victim because she loves her mother more than anyone else, and also because, right now, she is terrified of her. That is how both beaten wives and abused children behave, whence the term 'beaten wife syndrome'. Exactly what Archana displays vis a vis Savita.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

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Posted: 13 years ago
Dear naava,

It is so soothing to hear a voice of reason and good sense amidst all this clamour for or against something or someone, both in PR and sometimes in this forum as well.

Perhaps I was rather too vehement in the post under reply, but I feel very strongly about the way in which Archana has been treating Purvi of late. Arjun is one thing - he is an outsider - though I feel that there too Archana is lowering herself by the way in which she talks to him and the kind of things she says. He got back at her very politely but very firmly yesterday, and I was glad to see that.

But Purvi is her own daughter. How CAN you treat one's own child like that? Dragging her the door and telling her to go live with Arjun?How cheap can one get? If Purvi is now not able to try a little harder to make her point, it is because she is fast beginning to resemble an abused child, that cowers and cringes when the parent appears.Naava, we have all made mistakes with our children, and not even the best parenting can ensure perfect results, but I can honestly say that my son was never afraid of me.

I agree that Archana is overloaded with grief and anguish, but did she not bring the latest an worst instalment of it on herself? What she did to Manav upfront, and indirectly to Teju, Ovi and even Purvi , because of what she did at Punni's saakarpuda, was really inexcusable. As I wrote earlier, Archana's collateral damage ratio is, at 4:1, worse than that of the US in Afghanistan.

Well, it is no use going on and on about all this, is there? So I shall let you go.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: naava


Shyamala, Neither would i have done any of the things you list because my nature is to forgive and listen. But i will tell tell you as a parent i made plenty of other mistakes. No parent is perfect and children turn out well or with problems all on their own sometimes, in spite of good parenting.

In other words (the character of) Archana is an imperfect human like the rest of us. Purvi and Archana have had a totally soft and loving relationship until this all happened. Purvi may be bewildered by her change but she also can try a little harder to make her point. Archana's reasons are correct, imo, but her delivery is out of character with who she has always been. There was one other time when they had her act out of character and never corrected it.

I think they have overloaded her role with so much trauma and rejection, so much anguish, that no one could really stand up under it, and yet viewers still expect her to be perfect.

Unfortunately, the simple truth is that the CV's do not know how to portray healthy relationships

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Posted: 13 years ago
Archana defended purvi in front of the whole world , slapped punni in purvis presence , only to find later that punni was right after all. From her pov, her trust was broken.And yet she should not even be strict with purvi because she genuinely believes that Arjun is wrong for her?
I do not want to restart the debate about whether Arjun and purvi tried enough to inform the relevant people about their relationship.given their past behaviour and initiatives, the current victim behaviour hardly suits them.
As for my parent hood, as a parent of two teenage daughters, I often find myself walking the tightrope of deciding when to object and when to give in. I do not claim to be right every time but I'm damn sure that I have their best interests at heart . No one can doubt my intentions at all. That is why I can empathise with Archana's condition. And may not have only romantic notions in mind.
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Posted: 13 years ago
hi tanya,
i'm back to the college which is far away from home. only i visit this forum on every fri or sat. miss everyone very much. i am unable to watch PR. i miss to watch it. there's no repeated show on every before midnight.😭
i've heard about mahaepisode. i think it's savita who sends policeman to arrest arjun. ovi and teju believes that archu is responsible for doing arrest on him. now drama is going on. what do u think this?

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