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Posted: 13 years ago
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Janhvi,

Take a bow. Take several, in fact, deep curtsies from a bygone age.

This is as neat a dissertation on what makes AK tick as anything that I could have imagined. The ring as the equivalent of a conference name tag is just perfect. When one remembers how much it used to get under your skin, the acuity of this perception is even more significant.

It is interesting that you have come to this understanding so late, that is all, unless you mean the whole as an essay in satire. I hope not, for then the post would be merely clever, not significant.

One always knew what you have set out, in a general sense; for example that he has no notion of izzat or the proprieties, for they have never touched his life or affected it, but you have gone thru this in welcome detail.

The same is true, as I have mentioned in my response to you in the Triptych thread, of his reaction to what happened to Purvi at the birthday party. It exasperated me, his casual dismissal of the party disaster as something that was wrong, but worked out for the best in the end. It is obvious that Arjun Kirloskar has no idea what it is like to be slapped and humiliated in public, and subjected to the basest accusations. I did not expect him to be able to feel it under his skin, but I did feel that he should have at least tried to grasp the enormity of it for Purvi. Now, going by your analysis, it was only to be expected.

And as for his not realising that it is Purvi who will be paying the price for his mistakes, I have lamented that at length earlier and I will not repeat myself. But perhaps his take on this is that you should not let other people hurt you at will, and living ONLY for and through others is bound to end up as a fool's bargain. He is not wrong - just take one look at Archana's mahaanta complex, and the collateral damage it has inflicted, and is inflicting, on Manav, Teju, Ovi and Purvi. Does she think she is doing anything wrong? Not on your life!

One has to take individuals as they are, and not as one would want them to be. In order to do this successfully, one has to understand them. I do not know if this was what you wanted, or whether you have written this with tongue firmly in cheek, but regardless, your post will contribute a lot to the understanding of Arjun across the forum, and that too in a non-judgemental fashion. It is a welcome departure from the perfectly synchronised chorus of Arjun-bashing that was endemic for the last few weeks.

Finally, Janhvi, I would any day prefer Arjun Kirloskar - complete with his sense of entitlement and his easy assumption that his priorities should be universally shared - to a real wimp like Manav. Moreover, for one born to wealth, power and privilege, and handsome to boot, he is remarkably free of any playboy tendencies, and is, to the core, an honourable young man. That is why I always knew that he would come through in the end, and I am glad that it has not been too long in the coming.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

There has been a flurry of posts today as the ARVI world is excited that there maybe an end in sight to this torturous separation between Arjun and Purvi. The re-kindling of ARVI has been ambitiously likened to the legendary phoenix but Arjun is a fallen hero, doing his best to rise and we are eager to yank him up with a helping hand so that he may reclaim his lost title of 'romantic hero beyond compare'. We have pondered how the relentless Arjun who pursued Purvi turned tail and said yes to Ovi, how he puts up with Ovi's PDA and seems unconcerned when the world looks on. Tarnished he is, but Arjun has been true to his character all along. Arjun just marches to the beat of a different drummer.

When Arjun camped out in front of Purvi's home without a care about the chawlwallahs, we rejoiced in his love for Purvi and the romantic lover boy that he was; we decried him when he paid no heed to Purvi's feelings and decided to go ahead with his engagement to Ovi. We thought he put Ovi's reputation before Purvi's. We lamented that he flaunted that ugly piece of metal on his finger and allowed Ovi to carry on with him and pursued Purvi on the sly. How could he be two-faced, we asked. But to give Arjun his just dues, Mr. Kirloskar is not two faced nor did he place more weight on Ovi's saving of face than Purvi's. He simply dances to the tune of a different piper.

Arjun cared not a hoot for the chawlwallahs when he laid siege to Purvi's affections, he cared not a hoot for the people at the engagement party. He cared for Ovi's feelings, he did not want her to feel humiliated, he did not keep mum that day because he was afraid that people would gossip. Mr. K cannot comprehend that. He is impervious to what the masses may think of his actions. He is above the fray, he was born with a silver spoon, rich, pampered, the darling of his dad. He has known no failures, to see is to conquer, and (he admits this to Purvi in the temple scene).

Arjun has cared not for matters of the heart, his only maksadh has been to prove himself in the business world. Ovi happens because she pushes herself on to him and she is his friend whom he does not want to hurt. He comes to India and a chit of a girl takes him by storm, feisty, stubborn, she lays a stronghold on his heart and he is a goner. Veni, vidi, vici, he lays claim to her heart in turn, caring not that the world might be watching. He has great intentions, he is truly, surely in love. The engagement night happens and he is loth to hurt his friend. He does not mean to hurt Purvi in the bargain, he knows he is hers and she his, to him it is only a matter of time before he explains away his love to Ovi. He wears Ovi's ring like one would wear a name tag at a conference or meeting, it is trivial, unimportant. He knows he will discard it once he heads home to his Purvi.

He cannot understand Purvi's anguish or her incessant insistence on izzat. What Arjun wants Arjun gets, he made that clear today, he seemed incredulous that Purvi could think of giving him up for the sake of being good and told her not to concern herself with wagging tongues. He just does not realize that when Purvi pays the price for his mistakes, he will be paying for them too, only indirectly.

PS: Arch, I am including a disclaimer - this post is neither meant to crucify nor glorify your ladla!

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Deep bow! Thanks, Shyamala. No, it was not written tongue in cheek, for once.😆
This is the only way I could come to terms with my damaad's behavior and since my ladli will be stuck with him for keeps, I decided to cut my losses and look at what makes him tick! 😃
Yes, like I wrote on your post, I would have liked a bit of a reaction from him when Purvi related the party incident; he treated it as almost a non-event and was happy the matter had outed.
Arjun with his blundering ways is any day preferable to a gutless Manav. His sermon to Purvi on caring for others to the extent of losing sight of oneself would have been well applied to Archana.
As to Arjun's sense of entitlement, he knows no better and expects no less so he will revert to being the bull in the china shop as he picks up speed in his pursuit of Purvi.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Firstly - like button not working - so I LIKE your post😆

I still want to hit Arjun with a DRUM! Yes. He does not give a CRAP about the WORLD. Good for him, but the woman he claims to love obviously does. When you love someone, their concerns should become yours. So, her relationships should matter to him just as he expected her to give 2 hoots about his childhood watever... Also, watever drummer he beats to should be cognizant of the factual reality that a product cannot be re-sold without consent of current owner! As in Arjun should have ended relationship 1 with Ovi before leaping into relationship 2 with Purvi. He had time to go to work, the temple and buy airline tickets for Canada while "pursuing" Purvi... surely he could have dialed Canada and broken up with Ovi? Yeah - its rude to break up over the phone, but its gotta beat beak-up via MMS delivered by Punni🤣 🤣

As for K senior - didn't your darling deceased wife teach you what matters most? Family or Business? And what about Family Business.

All that said, Archana - either has faith or she doesn't. If she does have faith in her parvaarish then talk to the girl don't slap her.

If I were Purvi, I would keep walking. Her mother lacks faith when she gave up everything for her and the Barbie. Arjun deserves kicking to curb, so if he feels dumped then Goood! In her shoes, I would subtly do much much much much worse to Arjun!

I do agree that he's head & shoulder's above Manav though. Then again I rate Manav slightly above an ameoba! Archana might as well have married a fence post - at least that would provide some stationary structural support!

Edited by AnjanaYYZ - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ

Firstly - like button not working - so I LIKE your post😆


I still want to hit Arjun with a DRUM! I do too! But I have bashed Arjun enough in the past so will desist for now! 😆 Yes. He does not give a CRAP about the WORLD. Good for him, but the woman he claims to love obviously does. When you love someone, their concerns should become yours. So, her relationships should matter to him just as he expected her to give 2 hoots about his childhood watever... Also, watever drummer he beats to should be cognizant of the factual reality that a product cannot be re-sold without consent of current owner! As in Arjun should have ended relationship 1 with Ovi before leaping into relationship 2 with Purvi. Hear! Hear! He had time to go to work, the temple and buy airline tickets for Canada while "pursuing" Purvi... surely he could have dialed Canada and broken up with Ovi? Yeah - its rude to break up over the phone, but its gotta beat beak-up via MMS delivered by Punni🤣 🤣 Hilarious! 😆Yup, he should have hired Punni to do his dirty job even before Ovi landed in India!

As for K senior - didn't your darling deceased wife teach you what matters most? Family or Business? And what about Family Business.

All that said, Archana - either has faith or she doesn't. If she does have faith in her parvaarish then talk to the girl don't slap her. She was bragging that she would distrust even bappa if he told her Purvi was wrong! That was short-lived!

If I were Purvi, I would keep walking. Her mother lacks faith when she gave up everything for her and the Barbie. Arjun deserves kicking to curb, so if he feels dumped then Goood! In her shoes, I would subtly do much much much much worse to Arjun! I wish she would too, he needs to grovel and beg, and be properly penitent!

I do agree that he's head & shoulder's above Manav though. Then again I rate Manav slightly above an ameoba! Archana might as well have married a fence post - at least that would provide some stationary structural support! Too funny but true! 👏

Anjana, thank you! A girl after my own heart! Where have you been all these days? 😆 Loved your post.
Edited by soapwatcher1 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

Anjana, thank you! A girl after my own heart! Where have you been all these days? 😆 Loved your post.


Thanks - I have a low threshold for stupidity, so I have limited patience for characters like Manav & Archu... I watch only in a blue moon! Enjoy reading your posts though and Tanya's updates.
Edited by AnjanaYYZ - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Jahnvi what a wonderful post👏..your writings make me bound to read those long post😳

Whatever he has done till now, can be rectified if he convince everybody (including Purvi) about his feelings..this path is definitely so easy, he needs to get back the lost glory of Purvi ( her self confidence also)..he has to make Archana understand that he is the right one for her sweet little daughter Purvi..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Janhvi,

Take a bow. Take several, in fact, deep curtsies from a bygone age.

This is as neat a dissertation on what makes AK tick as anything that I could have imagined. The ring as the equivalent of a conference name tag is just perfect. When one remembers how much it used to get under your skin, the acuity of this perception is even more significant.

It is interesting that you have come to this understanding so late, that is all, unless you mean the whole as an essay in satire. I hope not, for then the post would be merely clever, not significant.

One always knew what you have set out, in a general sense; for example that he has no notion of izzat or the proprieties, for they have never touched his life or affected it, but you have gone thru this in welcome detail.

The same is true, as I have mentioned in my response to you in the Triptych thread, of his reaction to what happened to Purvi at the birthday party. It exasperated me, his casual dismissal of the party disaster as something that was wrong, but worked out for the best in the end. It is obvious that Arjun Kirloskar has no idea what it is like to be slapped and humiliated in public, and subjected to the basest accusations. I did not expect him to be able to feel it under his skin, but I did feel that he should have at least tried to grasp the enormity of it for Purvi. Now, going by your analysis, it was only to be expected.

And as for his not realising that it is Purvi who will be paying the price for his mistakes, I have lamented that at length earlier and I will not repeat myself. But perhaps his take on this is that you should not let other people hurt you at will, and living ONLY for and through others is bound to end up as a fool's bargain. He is not wrong - just take one look at Archana's mahaanta complex, and the collateral damage it has inflicted, and is inflicting, on Manav, Teju, Ovi and Purvi. Does she think she is doing anything wrong? Not on your life!

One has to take individuals as they are, and not as one would want them to be. In order to do this successfully, one has to understand them. I do not know if this was what you wanted, or whether you have written this with tongue firmly in cheek, but regardless, your post will contribute a lot to the understanding of Arjun across the forum, and that too in a non-judgemental fashion. It is a welcome departure from the perfectly synchronised chorus of Arjun-bashing that was endemic for the last few weeks.

Finally, Janhvi, I would any day prefer Arjun Kirloskar - complete with his sense of entitlement and his easy assumption that his priorities should be universally shared - to a real wimp like Manav. Moreover, for one born to wealth, power and privilege, and handsome to boot, he is remarkably free of any playboy tendencies, and is, to the core, an honourable young man. That is why I always knew that he would come through in the end, and I am glad that it has not been too long in the coming.

Shyamala

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Very nice analysis from both Jhanvi and Shyamala. You are right..What Arjun does and did, goes with his character. He is a very successful business man, for him, reaching the final destination and the achieving the target is the GOAL. What comes in between, good and bad, are not of importance. His eye is always on the end. In some ways, it is understandable if you keep his psyche in mind..
But, as far as knowing what it is to get humiliated by a SLAP, I am sure he will know today :)
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Posted: 13 years ago
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it couldn't have been said better.
kudos.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Arjun is a weakling. Had he been honest he would have shown this bravado right after the engagement. He led on ovi while assuring purvi. Today he says that he does not care for anyone and will declare his love but a few days back he was allowing ovi to sweet talk him!
I dont see anything heroic about his recent bravado. Most of the damage is done!

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