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Posted: 13 years ago
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Janhvi,

Of course your heart is dancing, Fred Astaire and Gene Kelly would be nothing to you in high fettle!

What broke (well, at least bruised) my heart😭 is your saying that you loved my latest infliction on the long-suffering forumites (is there such a word? ) only because you totally agreed with (almost) every word in it. Janhvi, how could you? And here I was thinking that you would be taken up with the quaint conceit of the triptych, which I think came off quite well, if I say so myself😉. You deserve that I should have gone in for the raagamaalika instead, and made you sit through three different nishi ragas (it would have to be night ragas, after all)!

As for Purvi's reasons for denying their love, I fully understand and empathise with her fears that she will lose the vishwaas of her parents. It is the nonsense about Teju, and much more so that about Ovi that I object to, and this strenuously. It is ridiculous, and makes Purvi look as if she had been dropped on the head as a baby.

What I loved was her saying is a small voice "I don't love you", like a little girl trying to get out of a sticky situation, and looking up at him timidly, convinced that this will not wash. Also Arjun's barely controlled exasperation as he asks "Aur kuch baaki hai?"

And what exasperated me in him was his casual dismissal of the party disaster as something that was wrong, but worked out for the best in the end. It is obvious that Arjun Kirloskar has no idea what it is like to be slapped and humiliated in public, and subjected to the basest accusations. It is not to be expected that he would be able to feel it under his skin, but he should have at least tried to grasp the enormity of it for Purvi.

As for your apologia, and that of many others, for Archana's behaviour yesterday, I am sorry but I do not buy it. Love and faith have any meaning only if they are strong and enduring even in highly adverse circumstances. If Archana's faith in Purvi is so weak that she acts as judge, jury and executioner rolled int one, and that without giving the girl even the right of reply, this is not love.

Nor do I admire this kind of high decibel ranting that passes for acting in most of our serials, and which most of the TV actresses could probably do in their sleep. I am dismayed by the readiness of so many to admire it. Then why complain about rona dhona? When it seems to be what the audience likes? No wonder Ekta and her team dish it out in plenty.

I prefer low key and dignified reactions, even in a crisis, and DK would the classic example of this. That also calls for much more than lung power and the ability to scream at the others non- stop, it calls for subtle body language and controlled facial expressions. It is of course far easier to just let yourself go and behave like something out of an Italian opera, but I for one cannot stand it.

Well, if Archana cops it in the Deshmukh household over the next week or so, and you hear the sound of clapping, that will be me. She deserves all that she will be getting.

Come to think of it, she has always been like this is a crunch situation, letting down her nearest and dearest with a thud. She did it twice to Manav, first very early into their marriage when she is shown photos of him in a bordello, and again much later at the time of the chawl demolition crisis. She had of course completely forgotten the time when she landed up in a bordello, and ended up with Rs. 20,000/- in her purse, accused by a dalal of being a call girl.

Now she has done it to Purvi. So what is the big deal - she is like that only. In fact I feel that when she defends Purvi stoutly earlier, it is not because she is standing by a beloved child, but because she cannot admit that her sanskaars and her parvarish could have failed.

Oh dear, I seem to have caught some of the archananygitis virus, and have started ranting myself. I shall immediately desist and take myself off. Bye for now.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

Shyamala. my heart's a dancing 🥳so I will not even make the pretense of taking umbrage that the only reason I don't support my damaad (that is an aboutface 😉if any from wimp to damaad - full circle🤣) is because I don't want to be a turncoat! Ha!😆

I loved your post more than any other you have written in the past as I totally agreed with every word you have said, well almost every word😃!
I felt that Archana's undue emphasis on how Manav would feel and how she would face Ovi, without a solitary thought to the girl she had raised, was totally out of character (I am being kind here).
Purvi had to say those things to Arjun about Tej and Ovi and her Aai Baba, she is conflicted, poor girl, and Arjun takes it in his stride,👏 does not believe her bak bak for an instant! Bodes well for their future relationship!.
The dialogues were lifted straight out of the ARVI lioious posts here - Arjun is not going to brook her being a bhagwan and neither is he going to become one! Hurrah for common sense!! I would have liked him to have admitted his error in judgement at least in passing instead of being happy that things had come out this way (wimp! There, had to say it one more time in case I never get the chance to call him that and faltu ever again😆).
Ovi was pitiful, stopping her dad from asking Arjun if he loved her, why would she not want to confirm that? She is pathetic in her clinginess.
Archana looked gorgeous, loved her sari and her facial expressions were awesome (apart from the shrieking you mentioned) but I did not like her turning her daughter out into the night in the pouring rain. I liked Sulo's whole demeanor except for when Purvi walked out, I would have liked her to glance at least at the departing girl, a torn look, caught between her ever sobbing daughter and her grand daughter who was being thrown to the elements.
Other than that, will not complain much, as Arjun was a rockstar😍 in finally admitting to Manav that he does not love Ovi.
Poor Ovi, yes, and poor Archana with her eternal woes which will escalate due to this latest development. Savita will have a heyday berating Archana and her sanskars, Sachin will rub salt into Archana Aai's wounds, Tej will doubt her parvarish, and Ovi will hate her with a petulant passion!!
As for Manav, he blows with the wind, hither and thither, with his mom's words and son's words so I will withhold judgement on the poor man though he did show signs of steel and paternal sternness when he asked Arjun that question in the precap.
All in all a 👍🏼 episode! 👏

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Posted: 13 years ago
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A wonderful analysys of today's episode. For me also, the best part was Arjun/Purvi meeting and arjun was the voice of reason there...no mahaanta, no drama...the way a strong minded man, sure of himself should be!!
As for Archan, I myself was in shock😲 So much anger, so much drama and so much violence!! I personally do not agree with it. That is not how I choose to deal with problems like that. A big thumbs down to her for telling Purvi to get out of her sight at that hour and acting so dramatically!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dear bee5,

What a very sweet and encouraging letter! Thanks a million.
I was very pleased with the title too - it was a little idea that came off rather neatly - and I am so glad you liked it a lot.

I am sure you must have envisioned in advance all the things that actually happened yesterday; it only shows how perceptive you are and how involved with Arjun and Purvi. It is that kind of involvement that gives one insights into their behaviour in advance, though one still has to contend with the vagaries of the CVs. Yesterday, they did a rare good job, at least for Colour Red and Colour Blue. Two out of three is not bad at all, seeing their recent track record!

Warm regards.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: bee5

Dear Shyamala,
What a amazing writeup of today's episode with an awesomely apt title!

Would you believe if I said, the episode exactly had the same things I envisioned yday night before sleeping, eagerly waiting for the morning and the show to start?
The frantic bday update by Purvi to Arjun, clutching on to him crying and him consoling, Archana catching them and then Archana's display of slaps (as I saw from SBS), everything that I kept thinking was all was in the show today.

You chose the perfect colors too
- red - for passion, I wouldn't say "rekindled" bcos for me the love was never gone, it was just that she did not wanted to accept. I loved the way he goes speechless I-can't-beleive-I-am-hearing-these-things and then again tries to make her understand. Loved his patience.
- white - for the deathly storm going on in Archana and then the havoc it creates. Sulo's dilemma was palpable, torn between the god-child whose restlessness she had been witnessing since past few days and the daughter whom she dotes on more than any of her children.
- blue - for the wise and calm DK.

What got to me too was at one side, Purvi worrying about "Ovi unable to trust love anymore" and at the other side Archana worrying about "how she would show her face to Manav and Ovi". Anyway, I will excuse her today with the reasoning that it was just her initial reaction and she really did not mean her to go out the house when she commanded Purvi to be out of her sight.
Yet, I feel so bad for Purvi. So scary to think she was out of the house in a rainy night and Arjun so oblivious to all that happened to Purvi and explaining his stand the next day morning at Manav's house.

Do not worry about the lengthy and don't apologize for it. The writeup was really excellent and was free flowing which did *not* give the impression that it was lengthy at all.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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After watching, I feel terrible for Purvi..Now Arjun is desperate and she is rejecting him..whereas Archana, doesnt even want to listen Purvi's words, talks about how she will explain Manav and how Ovi will treat her.. and sending Purvi out of the house without even thinking for a second..Sanskaar/Parvarish.. BS..Do all this more important than the safety of the kid who has no one but you. I was in tears after watching Purvi's plight. Archana should really be concerned about Purvi now, dont know where she will end up. I am not even thrilled about the precap now.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dear Shyamala, loved the idea of the triptych, much better analogy than the raagmalika which would have sailed past my head, not a musical bone in my body!😉
Yup, I could put even John Travolta to shame today
You err my friend, I admired Archana both days, she looked stunning and loved her sari today, her facial expressions were extraordinaire, as for the shrieking I turned down the volume. I do not approve of her throwing her daughter out in the middle of the night and have voiced this in several posts today, the slapping maybe forgiven but the rest was deplorable. Her insistence on her sanskars in Friday's epi was overdone.
If I stood up for my child, I would not be extolling my virtues, my mothering skills but would be placing my trust on my child because I know her, because of the person she is (even though this might be due entirely to my parenting) and not because I am a good mother. Today, Archana's insistence in not lending a ear to poor Purvi's attempts to explain bordered on the verge of manic obsession, her fear to face Manav and Ovi. As a mother, one's first instinct is to trust one's child and even when faced with disillusionment, one makes every effort to excuse the child by at least listening to their side of the story. No such quarter was given Purvi today and Archana turning Purvi into the night was the last straw.
I too loved the little girl, very unconvincing voice of Purvi's when she told Arjun she doesn't love him. Loved his response too, he is not buying any of that nonsense.
Not sure what tomorrow has in store! 😕
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Dear bee5,

What a very sweet and encouraging letter! Thanks a million.
I was very pleased with the title too - it was a little idea that came off rather neatly - and I am so glad you liked it a lot.

I am sure you must have envisioned in advance all the things that actually happened yesterday; it only shows how perceptive you are and how involved with Arjun and Purvi. It is that kind of involvement that gives one insights into their behaviour in advance, though one still has to contend with the vagaries of the CVs. Yesterday, they did a rare good job, at least for Colour Red and Colour Blue. Two out of three is not bad at all, seeing their recent track record!

Warm regards.

Shyamala


Dear Shyamala,
Involvement ? Ha Ha don't even want to get there, lest I embarrass myself.😳

I am glad, someone finally gave the due appreciation to the CVs today, atleast for the red and blue sections of the triptych of today's episode. And that coming from you has to be a big deal for them. I don't think i saw 1 post today with a praise for the CVs. I wanted to, but then retracted for obvious reasons 😛 (with "there she goes ..." stuff😆).

The blue section was very logical with some crisp dialogues, no beating around the bush because it was DK who had to deliver it. It is no nice to see how quickly DK gauges the situation and comes to the right conclusion.

The red section was really a good one and very difficult IMO. There was a lot of repeat, same thing said in various different ways but it is not easy to write that. (Yes, it is their job, but those who write might understand it.) The girl had to understand and the boy had to try try and try. That was an excellently written scene and both RD & Asha delivered it brilliantly, more the former😊.
No, Arjun isn't redeem completely yet. Today's was just the beginning. Hopefully there is more to come.

I am quite with you about the 'white' section. I think the conceptualization was alright, but not the execution (Okay, that is just my opinion, now people don't jump on me😆). And I thought Archana did not mean her to go out of the house, she just wanted her to get out of her sight. Anyway, lets see what the new dawn brings...
I do have the scenario in my mind for tomorrow's episode😳😆, just have to wait till it unfolds.

CVs definitely deserved a round of applause for today's superlative episode. Like I always say, they definitely know what they are doing and intentionally doing what they are doing and not-doing 😉


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dear Tanyaz,

Thanks a lot for the kind words; and as for your disagreeing with parts of it, that is your right. For my part, I am not at all inclined, as you would see from my response to Janhvi above, to cut Archana any slack for her behaviour tonight, which I frankly think was unjust, unbecoming and quite disgraceful.

If we all had the same opinions on everything, the forum would be a very dull place. Luckily, there is no danger of that happening!

@ section in red: We are right now a far cry from Archana convincing Purvi to say yes to Arjun - he will have to clear that hurdle mostly on his own. As for Archana concentrating on Ovi and doing whatever she can to make Ovi happy, the real problem there is likely to be Ovi. Ovi hates Archana with passion, and the Arjun-Purvi factor would only have further inflamed this hatred. The odds thus are that Ovi will not let Archana anywhere near her for the foreseeable future.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Tanyaz

Hi Shyamala , great writing as always ...

Loved reading your take on all the three segments ..would like to disagree a bit though...nevertheless they were so well written that I read them many times ...
Shyamala, I am really angry at Arjun , he is the one who has created this mess...he has to do a lot lot more before getting my vote ...OK, today was a good start but that's it ...just a good start .
Only few hours ago he was talking all sweet and nice to Ovi showing the kind of concern only a loving fiance would , sending her jewellery and his tone only changed when he saw that Purvi actually meant it that this is it ...finito between us ...
Then he was all romantic and trying his best to convincer her ..
The precap is good ...
You may think I am crazy but as the slapping season is being celebrated in PR with so much enthusiasm , I would like Manav also to do the honours and give two tight left and right to Arjun .
Manav's expressions in the precap surely suggest that he could well do this .
However I am very very glad that now Ovi knows the truth that Arjun does not loves her ..
Felt so bad for Purvi and her mother .Purvi was heartbroken that she caused her mother so much pain .I don't blame Archana at all for feeling gutted after what she saw .I felt that she was crying more because Purvi broke her trust and not because of anything else that much ...and I am also glad that she was worried about Ovi ...Ovi too is her daughter .
My main problem with Archana is that she only seems to care about her adopted children and not Ovi, Teju and Soham...that should not be so ...a mother should love all her children equally and Ovi and Manav will be devastated that Ovi's engagement would break and that too because of Archana's daughter ( sort of Ovi's own sister ) ...it is indeed a very sad thing to happen ...
I also don't like Ovi because I find her disrespectful and snooty but that is a different thing ...the girl did not deserve this ...
I would have been angry had Archana not shown any concern for Ovi today ,,,but she did , good ...
I hope that now Archana gets to know the truth and she should somehow convince Purvi to say yes to Arjun and then she should concentrate on Ovi ...do whatever she can to make Ovi happy ...

DK was sensible that he went straight to Manav but today I am angry with him because he took too long in coming back ...
I guess this is all part and parcel of a daily show ( DK's coming so late for something so important ) but we all had fun today and that is what actually matters ...

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dear Laurie,

If you really liked my triptych, I am most gratified. It is but a very small return gift for the great pleasure you give me every now and then with The Raging Storm. In that context, I hope the improved Arjun-Purvi scenario will help lighten your mood and thus reflect beneficially on the rest of The Raging Storm!

I do agree about the effect of the rain on our Arjun's brain cells. Jokes apart, I wonder how RD and Asha cope with the after effects of such drenching (they probably take half a dozen capsules of D cold in advance!), plus the strain of emoting fully drenched, and that too with such tight close ups. It must be quite tough, and they would hardly have the luxury of as many retakes that a movie star would have.

As for the rest, I agree completely that now it is Arjun who should do most of the running, take all the blame, and shield Purvi as much as he can from the storm of disappointment, hatred and anger that will rage around them . He MUST be "the driving force in turning everyone's perception of Purvi around", as far as that is possible, for I do not see Ovi or Sachin or Savita or even Teju coming round any time soon, or at all. Manav too, and he would be hardly likely now to go along with anything Arjun says to him.

Given this, it will not be easy for Arjun, as I had noted in my cul de sac post, to coax her over these hurdles and make her believe that "she deserves this love and him". I had imagined that he would clear the very high wall at the end of the cul de sac like a pole vaulter. Instead, he is now all set to batter his way thru it, and I am sure he will make it, with Purvi at his side.

Shyamala

PS: Loved the little poem. It reminds of the saying 'The heart has its reasons, of which the mind has no knowledge." I wonder who said that, but it is absolutely true, any time and every time.

Originally posted by: Axiom123

A master in your own right! Loved your post Shyamala!

Maybe what Arjun needs is to stand in the rain a bit longer! He seems to abosrb divine intelligence through heaven's sprinkler system!!! 🤣
Loved watching Arjun in action. His parries, ripostes and contre-temps were superb. AK at his best. 😍
I really do want to see him fight for Purvi though - as in stand up to all of them, seek vengence on those that harmed her, brandish his sword of love and cut down anyone in his path to rescue her.
He needs to EARN her love at this point. After all she's been through - she deseves that much! It's not so much about what he needs to say but how its delivered and to whom its said. Arjun getting away unscathed is unacceptable to me. He needs to own up to most of this and be the driving force in turning everyone's perception of Purvi around.
In reference to Purvi, lyrics of a certain song comes to mind,
"Listen to your heart, when he's calling for you.
Listen to your heart, there's nothing else you can do.
I don't know when you're going and I don't know why,
But listen to your heart before you tell him goodbye."
She needs to believe that she deserves this love and him. Once she accepts that, we will (hopefully) see her fire come back too.
My heart is still racing from watching these two today. Love the dialogues 😉

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Posted: 13 years ago
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My dear Vilasini,

I am glad you found my triptych post useful. As you must have seen for yourself by now, Purvi does end up sobbing in Arjun's arms while he tries hard to comfort and reassure her that none of her fears will materialise. At the end, she does run away, which is why I had noted that Arjun did not succeed completely in convincing her that there was no question of sacrificing their love for the good opinions ( a highly debatable point, that!) of others.

Purvi is far too sensitive to the feelings, real or not, of her parivaar, and so Arjun still has his work cut out for him. He knows that, witness what he tells DK that night, about Purvi's forbidding him to say anything. Of course DK gives that argument short shrift, and rightly so.

Now that Arjun will come clean today evening, one of the main planks underpinning Purvi's argument for suffering in silence would be knocked out. This, and Archana's ultra violent reaction, and her throwing Purvi out of the house, might actually help Arjun, as these developments will close more options for Purvi.

I do not know where she would have gone in the middle of the night in a rainstorm - that was truly awful of Archana. There is no Arjun to locate her and take care of her, as he did in the night after the Vinay engagement fiasco.

Let us see, and possess our souls in patience in the meantime. Vilasini, "detached attachment" is only for Lord Krishna, and not for mere mortals like us. Moreover, there is no fun in it, so don't bother trying!

Shyamala

Originally posted by: vgiri

Thank you Shyamala.. I haven't watched the episode yet.. I am going to watch it tonight in TV with subtitles..(not online..) want to enjoy the moments..

After reading so many posts I had one lingering question.. no other post answered except yours..

I wanted to know whether Purvi accepted and convinced that she cannot give up her love.. From your post, I feel that she has surrendered(in good sense) to his love. ( u have said.. what WE are doing is wrong and she sobbed in his arms) Thanks a lot for that..otherwise I cannot be peaceful till 9.30 pm. Another disturbing one is .. Purvi has left the house..where would she go..Hope they do not start Soham track and kill us from this point.

I want to enjoy this episode but going to have detached attachment on ARVI..

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Posted: 13 years ago
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My dear Abhi,

You are always so warm and thoughtful that by now I am quite spoilt and expect such unwarranted praise as a matter of right!

I hope that after you watched the episode, your views on it did not differ too much from mine, especially about Colour White.

Jokes apart, I enjoyed writing it too, and once I had the title right - the idea of the triptych was a given, and then came the colours, and raag itself is another name for rang - the rest came almost by itself.

The only problem was my eyes, by the end they were so tired that I could not read the fine print easily when responding to messages. Conjunctivitis is a great nuisance while it lasts.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: abhimg

👏 My dear Shayamala, ⭐️

What a superbly titled post...all well said...i have not yet watched the episode but your post is so well written, in your very own style...it flowed so naturally...did not feel at all that it was lengthy...kudos...
thank you, loved your post...
😆 now just waiting to watch this episode tonight...

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