Overrated sanskars - Page 2

whenever that happens am gonna die laughing

it always has Nirvan...look at Manav and his love for both Archu and Sulo...he always just did so much and ultimately got nothing (other than the slaps, mistrust, 18 yrs of loneliness)...even now Purvi is held to the 'highest standards' of the sanskar...and mom openly declaring her daughter can do no wrong...how many mom in real life can do so without a second thought, the rishta does come with its baggage... my POV of course...

Originally posted by: nirvanlove

agree with all of u here but in bits

what i do not understand is, purvi is being blamed for something, whats with the MY SANSKARS CANT DO NO WRONG.

u defend ur daughter, wonderful, if any parent defends their child, i say, awesome.
but the thin line that soapwatcher talked about.. for me the thin line vanished when that dialogue came out of the blue..

and actually the sanskars talks actually made it almost impossible for guilt stricken purvi to act further on her love though she was giving it up even before. which is sad.

purvi ddnt know he is engaged, the loser had selective memory that he FORGOT that he is to be engaged and then he chose the silence as a comfortable excuse at that time (if i see this as a viewer)

its just sad.

how one's duhai of morals can actually make a child so clueless and helpless of what to do.
i feel for purvi.

Originally posted by: Kalapi

@second bold, hope that happens, real fast. Maybe Ovi will find herself falsely accused and Archana can stick up for her too. Not Savita, as nobody can paint her in any worse light than she actually is in reality (reelity), according to me.

Soapwatcher'I am not sure it will be anyone other than Savita'Savita in PR is the convenient scapegoat, perhaps she does her role so convincingly that fetches the high TRPs'Savita's character, although never conceived to be positive, has been and will be the dumping ground of all the ultimate blame with audience dissecting the drama/and her character according to their perspectives'.why else, would a negative character turned positive was again turned negative in the first place'so, it will all fall on this character somehow'.my guess'.

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

Nirvan, I am agreeing with you 100%. Luvly is right in that Archana didn't bring up the word sanskars first, it was Ovi. But I believe you and I are saying the same thing, Purvi did not cross any sanskars, she did not do any disservice to her values, as you @bold explain so well.

If anything Arjun crossed his sanskars albeit unwillingingly because he unwittingingly fell in love. In my mind what he did is still inexcusable, not the falling in love part even when he was essentially betrothed to someone else as I guess falling in love is beyond one's control, but keeping both girls in the dark, confessing and making Purvi confess before clearing the air with Ovi, and then going on to be and act engaged to Ovi all the while meaning and intending to break up with her to be back with Purvi, was wrong. That is a lack of sanskars on his part (to me) not what Purvi did. She is between a rock and a hard place and is being forced by a guilty conscience to give up Arjun. Unfortunate that her mother stood up for her with the wrong words (with the best of intentions, of course) as Purvi feels all the more guilt ridden now. Not a happy position for anyone to be, poor girl.

Originally posted by: nirvanlove

yea totally. but there may be dialogues later in the show. i didnt have a mother so i dont know what to do ETC

if my mom is not with me does it makes me an idiot? okay u r a workoholic.. wonderful. u are good friends with ur dad;s friend k daughters. GOOD.
the girl tried v foolishly flaunt u in front of her friends n u cleared it that HELL NO am not her boyfriend.. CLEARED. she is hurt but everyone got the point.
but then HE went back to her .. that OK.. The girl is ecstatic.. YAY..

then u go to another country and do U forget what happened in another country.
arjun is one of the stupidest characters i have seen on TV ,, ofcourse after all the Sacrificial lambs in all the supposed women centric shows.

p,s, do u watch satyamev jayate. enlighten people around if it wud help someone to come out of the pressures.

archana's sanskaar dialogue is going to harm purvi the most

if she would had defended purvi then it would had been great

but she used the opportunity to again flaunt her false sanskaars , the biggest opportunistic that she is

just imagine purvi's situation

now she is totally pressed under the sanskaars of archana

tomorrow if at all she decides to fight for her love then she will not be able to do it as she will think that by taking the step people will blame archana's sanskaars

purvi will not like her mom's sanskaars being questioned as her mom has very publicly boasted about them

what purvi needs to understand that archana hasn't done any ehsaan on her

infact archana just raised her to show off to the world that maa ki mamta is still present in her even after wrecking the lives of four children

purvi should stop behaving as if she is under the ehsaan of archana and she should start fighting for her own love because her aai is just good for nothing and highly useless

Yes, I agree with you gemstar…that this 'ehsaan' feeling is great in adopted kids and happens in reality too…so let see what the Cvs come back with, since I have full faith in their illogicalities or their ability to simply ignore the issues when the going get tough…🤣🤣

And yes to this day, I am yet to understand what is so great about Archu's sanskar…but then I am mere mortal….😉

Usha is a great actress and I read somewhere that she herself is fed up of being so negative on PR. She renders histrionics and comedy with an equal amount of talent.

But I doubt it will be Savita because it has to be someone who Archana can stand up for, someone who is not capable of wrong doing. Savita is already such an evil character that anything else they throw at her will only pale in significance. So I think if the scenario you mentioned comes to pass, it might be Ovi or even Sachin. I could be totally wrong, of course.

Yes, Soapwatcher, She is a great actress..feeling against her in PR reminds me of Pran in '60s India. Let see what the CVs comes up with now, but I don't see the character changing much, as if she does, PR will end, I think…can't see anyone protraying the character with such finess…great job by her, no doubt…

From what I have seen in Purvi is that she is a sensible, hardworking, trusting,loyal, person. She has strong opinions and she voices them when needed. She is not a happy go lucky girl and she had to work hard for everything that she has. She was raised in a middle class family where every family member worked hard to earn their living for which you need inner strenght, dicipline etc. The society dictates the middle class on how to act and proceed with their actions. Purvi is very much living within those rules. Who would have taught her these values...neightbors? no it would be the people that she lived with or she was around.

there is nothing wrong with the sanskaar's that her mother gave her infact sometimes children that grow without the influence of a male person in their lives e.g a father or an uncle usually go out of hand before they reach puberty.

Archu and her mother were the only 2 people in Purvi's life and these two planted a seed of human values into the subconscious mind of Purvi during her childhood so that adherence of these values becomes part of her nature and keeps on guiding her throughout her life. A person acts according to the ideals which exist in his/her subconscious without being aware of them. Thus Purvi's decisions, her reactions to actions of , others and the quality of her actions depend upon the values existing in her subconscious. Conduct and behaviour of a person are always according to his/her inner values.

We all grew up with lot of values that we got from influential people in our lives. Ask yourself a question...was there not any time in our lives that we did when our conscience told us not to? That is how we end up learning from our judgement. Our judgement could be impaired at times but that does not mean that we had bad sanskaar!

Purvi has much better sanskaar than any young woman in PR. She was young when she had to learn quickly how to defend herself from the world, make money to survive, help out with the house chores, wear appropriate clothes, be respectful to people who deserved respect. She did not have the luxury of getting spoilt like Punni, Ovi, Tej and even Sachin.

She developed feelings for Arjun unknowingly. She was forced to accept her feelings by Arjun. Was there any fault of Purvi here? Only thing is that she did not tell her mother how she felt for Arjun. This was all because the time was not right as her mother was herself going through a hard time with Manav.

Few things happened in a row with poor Purvi.

First the engagement that came from nowhere in Arjun and Purvi's lives. Arjun was not engaged to Ovi at the time when he started loving and dating Purvi. His fault was that he did not connect with Ovi to tell her that. He did make many attempts.

Second, Purvi finds out that Arjun is getting engaged to her sister. Purvi is not like Punni...wanting all good stuff for herself at the cost of any lives.

Third, she is humilated by Punni and Ovi

How much can a person endure???? Purvi can't even stand up for herself in the current situation as she still feels like an adopted daughter. Archana HAS to protect Purvi. Every Tom Dick and Harry is either abusing her, slapping her, mentally torturing her.

Sorry guys I just went overboard...

Tulsey, I have been debating whether to do any post on Sanskar…to me Sanskar debate is a dead horse that has been beaten enough in this forum…I am not sure if anyone called Archu sanskar bad, rather simply overrated as the title of the post says…to me it seems we are back to square one of the poor vs the rich equation again, and the default simply being poor equates to good sanskar and rich equates to bad sansakar (in reality if this was the case, most of us could have been labeled with bad sanskar, right😃, but let me not divert)….

To begin with I don't find D's sanskar any bad than that of K's, actually if you think D's were much poorer to Archu and that was why the whole problem in PR started (in the beginning). As I see Savita done an wonderful job (with the help of that alcoholic Damo as her husband, no doubt😊) to raise all her kids, as all of her 3 kids Manav, Vandu and Sachin (I can't remember everything regarding Sachin now, but don't remember anything glaringly bad either in his characterization) turned out pretty good.

Then, when Manav became rich, his (the Arman's ) kids did turn out very well in spite of all the riches which in reality could have made them alcoholic, drug addict or whatnot that happens so often in this world, but so far I see them pretty level headed, except for that accusing feeling against Archu which to me is understandable…(Of course, the Cvs in their infinite wisdom might just show these very qualities in Arman's kids in their quest to glorify Archu's so called Sanskar over the rest of us mortal😊….anyway I divert again)…In fact, as you yourself say, without the money factor being there in Porvi's life a lot of added complexities are also removed..since having that in enough qualities does buy lot of added addictions as well… so in that section so far Arman's kids has done pretty good too…😃

I won't go in the dressing issue you bring up…I leave it as 'the eye of the beholder'….😊

But to me right now, the point of the debate isn't whether or either Desmukh's sanskar is bad or good against the K's sanskar (as in reality it is really hard to define what constitute a good and a bad sanskar – rather we in reality criticize sanskar after a particular event – Sanskar doesn't come in predefined protocol, if it did most parents could be relieved), but rather, the question is,…. if a mom should be so proud of that sanskar or have so much faith in her Sanskar that she ends up pushing her kid at a point of no return…and I say this as mom myself and to me, every mom should leave that door open for the kid to come back home safely, when 'that' situation arise…before declaring so highly her Sanskar to the world at large…😊, my POV of course...