Arjun-Purvi: cul de sac?

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sashashyam

@sashashyam

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Posted: 13 years ago

#11

Dear Vilasini,

I am afraid I do not see how he can. In fact, I see him as becoming almost irrelevant to Purvi's decision-making process.

There can be no win-win situation, much as I would want one, unless Ovi retreats on her own. Only then can Purvi accept Arjun with a clear conscience, and there is nothing Arjun can do, or could ever have done, on his own to quiet that over-sensitive conscience of hers!

Shyamala

Originally posted by: vgiri
Very well said Shyamala.. "Now, thanks to this series of ill-considered procrastinations, Purvi is left facing a cruel dilemma ' she has to choose between her deep love for Arjun, and her equally deep, in fact deeper need to retain the trust and love of Manav and Archana. Either way, she stands to lose something very dear to her.
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Can Arjun turn this into a WIN-WIN situation. Let;s see..If I were in her position, esp. after today's episode..I will definitely give up Arjun. Purvi is really cornered.

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soapwatcher1

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Posted: 13 years ago

#12

Shyamala, you surpass even yourself!! Gordian knot, indeed! How well you have summed it up! Purvi stands to lose whichever direction she chooses!

I have not watched today's epi, but your post is making me dread watching it. Poor Purvi! Arjun seriously needs to be blamed for this ugly mess and he is missing at the crucial moment. Drat that boy!

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Axiom

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Posted: 13 years ago

#13

Dear Shyamala - How could we ever survive these fetid parties if it weren't for your analyses? Thank you for being the beacon in this PR nightmare. You effortlessly see all the underlying markers and I look forward to all your posts to make sense of things when the apple cart endlessly gets upended..

As we can see, Purvi has become the veritable pariah as a result of Punni's masterful chess moves (how it happened so suddenly I'm not sure) and now we will see Arjun finally step up to bat.

Hopefully he will not be as destructive as a bull in a china shop but I fear he lacks the foresight on such intricate delicacies. In his efforts to 'save Purvi' I fear he may outshine Punni by making Purvi more of an outcast. The saying, "things have to get worse before they get better" comes to mind.

Still I have hope that Arjun, in frustration, will smack his head on his Corporate Take Over 101 books and realize that if he was smart he should probably tackle the clan in the following order:

1.Archana to make sure she know's her daughter was never at fault.

2. Sulochana for extra support for Purvi.

3. Go after Punni to put the fear of God in her. Teach her a lesson - don't mess with what's mine and make good on his impassioned threat in the office after the MMS was released.

4. Manav - with or without DK's help

5. Tej - who knows Purvi and has been with her

6. Sachin, Savita and Ovi - Group smackdown for these three - maybe at another party? 🤣

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bee5

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Posted: 13 years ago

#14

Originally posted by: sashashyam
Dear bee5,

Thanks ever so much; you are always so good to me!

I do agree that Arjun will somehow come to hear about what happened and will probably then come out with the truth willy nilly. Or else DK will land up and do the same.

But this will not solve any problems for Purvi, either wrt Manav or even wrt Archana. She will lose face badly wrt Manav, and Archana will be deeply disappointed and hurt by what she will see, at least at first, as a deliberate deception.

I do not think that Purvi, already humiliated and emotionally battered by recent events, can contemplate letting this happen. Her first priority now is thus likely to be to head Arjun off decisively and for keeps. She had already started down this road - forcing him to meet Ovi before leaving for Delhi and them reminding him about Ovi's birthday - and now she will rush down it pell mell.

I hope I am wrong, for there is nothing I would like better than a happy ending for our two young people. But I do not logically see that happening. We shall thus just have to depend on the legendary illogicality (if indeed there is such a word) of the CVs. We might learn to be grateful yet for the nuttiness of their "script"!

Shyamala

No denying, Shyamala, none of your points. I agree to all of them.

When the complete truth comes out Purvi would lose face and so would Arjun, with Manav.

Archana, fighting so fiercely without knowing the truth and after all her talks of Sanskaar, Abhimaan, Gorur, Wajood, will be completely shattered. But I want to see how long that will last and what is the reasoning CVs are going to throw at us for making Archana support Purvi. Just want to see how convincing or silly would it be.

About Ovi's bday, I have a separate thread on it - https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/pavitra-rishta/3036804/why-did-arjun-go-to-delhi

About her asking him to meet Ovi, she is afterall Archana's daughter, the good one, who would advise only the good things.

And no, Ovi will not give him up even after knowing the truth.

Purvi is at a state where she cannot tell anything but When Arjun tells his side of the story,

- Purvi either should not deny the entire thing or should remain quiet (This one would be good, bcos to an extent it would be 'Mounam Sammadham Lakshanam').

- Support him and not push him away. (Bcos if she does the latter then we would be in for 1 more tiresome ride.)

But what I feel is when the complete truth comes out, it really doesn't matter what Purvi says or does, bcos once Archana knows the truth that both of them love(d) each other before the engagement, the entire equation for Archana changes and she would not expect/agree/allow any sacrifice from Purvi. She would infact fight for Purvi all the way.

Also DK will be back. Have to see if his presence makes any difference or was he better off with a glass of whiskey on the Australian beaches.

I am not expecting anything to happen till next Tuesday or even Thursday.

Both Arjun and Purvi have done mistakes, and because of not telling the right things at the right time to the right people, they are getting entangled more and more in the inevitable knots. I'm actually enjoying this knotted mess they have managed to create, however illogical some of the reasoning have been, there is always something to look forward to. Otherwise it would be simply boring.

It looks like they want to make these 2 golden individuals to go through the fire, before drawing them out more shiningly for everyone. One by one they will slowly untangle the knots and in the process restore the trust they deserve from the others.

Edited by bee5 - 13 years ago

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Esha Singh

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Posted: 13 years ago

#15

@ BOLD: OMG shyamala...I cannot help it, but I cannot stop laughing...gosh the description of yours is hilarious 😆 😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by: sashashyam
Dear Esha,

You are very encouraging and kind; thanks a ton.

It is largely Arjun's mistakes, no matter that they were unintended, that have brought Purvi, and us, to this sad pass, but she too has played her cards badly at times. You might like to see the two 'ifs' related to Purvi in my response above to Namita. The two sets of blunders have compounded each other, culminating in this disaster.

Moreover, even if Arjun had come clean at the engagement ceremony itself, it would have been no cakewalk for the couple. In particular, it would have been Purvi who would have copped it as the 'golddigger' trying to snatch her 'sister's ' fiance. The recriminations would have raised the roof, and Purvi would have lost several relationships that she valued greatly. Nothing Arjun could have done would have prevented the damage to her bonds with those she loves.

In fact, the only way the Arjun-Purvi could have had, and now can have a really happy ending, unclouded by any bitterness in the hearts of those Purvi cares for, would be for Ovi to give up Arjun of her own free will. Now that would be asking for too much, would it not?

Incidentally, I was astonished to see some comments apparently praising Ovi's dress and hairdo at the birthday party (unless of course they were made tongue in cheek). Ovi is top heavy, and in that ghastly purple halter neck dress, her upper half looked like a badly tied sack of potatoes, while her hairdo reminded me of a disorderly birds nest. As for the make up which she apparently slathers on with a trowel, the less said the better.

Shyamala

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ptamom

@ptamom

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Posted: 13 years ago

#16

Originally posted by: Axiom123
Dear Shyamala - How could we ever survive these fetid parties if it weren't for your analyses? Thank you for being the beacon in this PR nightmare. You effortlessly see all the underlying markers and I look forward to all your posts to make sense of things when the apple cart endlessly gets upended..

As we can see, Purvi has become the veritable pariah as a result of Punni's masterful chess moves (how it happened so suddenly I'm not sure) and now we will see Arjun finally step up to bat.

Hopefully he will not be as destructive as a bull in a china shop but I fear he lacks the foresight on such intricate delicacies. In his efforts to 'save Purvi' I fear he may outshine Punni by making Purvi more of an outcast. The saying, "things have to get worse before they get better" comes to mind.

Still I have hope that Arjun, in frustration, will smack his head on his Corporate Take Over 101 books and realize that if he was smart he should probably tackle the clan in the following order:

🤣

1.Archana to make sure she know's her daughter was never at fault.

2. Sulochana for extra support for Purvi.

3. Go after Punni to put the fear of God in her. Teach her a lesson - don't mess with what's mine and make good on his impassioned threat in the office after the MMS was released.

4. Manav - with or without DK's help

5. Tej - who knows Purvi and has been with her

6. Sachin, Savita and Ovi - Group smackdown for these three - maybe at another party? 🤣

Laurie I love your game plan. I would love it if Arjun follows your plan. It is so logical and sensible. It would be nice in the eyes of forum members if we see a calculated, smart Arjun. One who really thinks thought the situation and how to handle the various players. But my dear I am not too optimistic about logic in PR. The story line will have the most twisted, convoluted turns before it becomes straight again. Thanks as always for your thoughts. Looking forward to see what happens.

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archverma10

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Posted: 13 years ago

#17

Wow. Shyamala I just read this and I can only echo the sentiments of everyone else...my god, how we have missed you!!!!!!!

I agree with your analysis...and unfortunately you are right. And I use the word unfortunately because for those of us who love Arjun and Purvi and are big ARVI fans the situation is indeed heartbreaking. Purvi is between a rock and a hard place, and there is no way to turn back. The if onlys are so true...If only things had been managed better on both sides.

At least for all of us ARVI fans we know what is going to happen. Purvi will choose to sacrifice: but it is too late for that. Purvi and Arjun will be together...that much is true...but there is a price to pay for it, and there is no question that it is Purvi who will ultimately pay it. Archana will support Purvi: but I dont think Manav will initially. He will be shocked and hurt and Purvi will have to see that whatever ground she has gained in that department will probably suffer a major setback.

As to Teju, only time will tell (Im inclined to think she will come around though). Savita and Sachin were a given anyway- with or without the Arjun love revelation. But any bond she was slowly forming with Ovi is finished------and that too, definitely for good.

Your parents or the love of your life: the worst dilemma and nightmare of any girl. But now as you have so rightly said, whats done is done. There is no going back. Glass, once it breaks, can be glued together again. But the cracks will always remain.

Purvi will have her Arjun, because something tells me that he will not let her go and will stick with her, but she will definitely have some mighty battles ahead. I am glad that Archana and Arjun will support her: because she is going to need all the help she can get.

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sashashyam

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Posted: 13 years ago

#18

No, Janhvi, it would not have helped even if Arjun had been there, and he had burst the bubble at once, as he would have. The mess for Purvi would have been exactly the same, and she would not even have had the consolation of seeing both her parents support her so warmly and unquestioningly.

Now she feels only a guilty twinge in her heart. If Arjun had revealed the truth so publicly and in such a blunt and unvarnished fashion, Purvi would have had to face the angry glares of so many pairs of eyes, and she would have shrivelled up and died inside.

No, Arjun could not have kissed her hurts and made them well again, neither if he had come clean at or immediately after at the engagement ceremony, nor if he had done it yesterday.

In fact nothing that Arjun could have done would have prevented this disaster from happening once he fell in love with Ovi's 'sister'; that too a sister without an ounce of self-interest or selfishness in her. It could have been foretold right then that, like a Greek tragedy, this, and precisely this, would come to pass. But, as I wrote in my response to Namita, if Purvi had told Manav about Punni's wickedness, at least yesterday's public humiliation could have been prevented.

Now I do not see how this love story is to be prevented from degenerating into the standard issue TV melodrama. It was perhaps too much to expect that such a fresh, appealing romance would actually last till the end.

We just have to accept this and hope that something can still be salvaged from this shipwreck. For starters, we shall see what Purvi does, as she will, to stop Arjun in his tracks, and how he reacts to that.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1
Shyamala, you surpass even yourself!! Gordian knot, indeed! How well you have summed it up! Purvi stands to lose whichever direction she chooses!

I have not watched today's epi, but your post is making me dread watching it. Poor Purvi! Arjun seriously needs to be blamed for this ugly mess and he is missing at the crucial moment. Drat that boy!

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sashashyam

@sashashyam

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Posted: 13 years ago

#19

Dear Laurie,

You of all people talking about not surviving the junk that PR dishes out to us daily! You don't need me. Why, all you have to do is to write Chapter 9 of The Raging Storm, and then Chapters 10, 11, 12 and so on and on. You have your own unfailing port key to a very different, and far better world that is yours to command, mercifully devoid of Savita, Sachin, Punni, Manjusha and even Ovi. Then again, I have a selfish interest in your focussing on the world of The Raging Storm - we get free entry to it as well.

I somehow do not think that Arjun is going to follow your Rescue Purvi 101. He was once like a bull in a china shop, and now he seems to have been gobsmacked into drifting with the tide and doing nothing that makes sense.Maybe the CVs have put the Imperius curse on him?

Then again, even if he did all that you prescribe for him, I do not think it would work in the short run. And as both our young people, especially Purvi, are the acme of conventional respectability, one cannot expect anything so drastic as a registered court marriage, and then facing the gang with a fait accompli. So we have to get set for more misery, and not picturesque misery at that. Purvi is no Archana, and crying does not suit her.

In fact, instead of losing sleep over the inevitable mess in PR, you would be better off reading my over-long tribute to your Chapter 8. I liked it, if I say so myself, and I don't think you have caught up with it as yet.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Axiom123
Dear Shyamala - How could we ever survive these fetid parties if it weren't for your analyses? Thank you for being the beacon in this PR nightmare. You effortlessly see all the underlying markers and I look forward to all your posts to make sense of things when the apple cart endlessly gets upended..

As we can see, Purvi has become the veritable pariah as a result of Punni's masterful chess moves (how it happened so suddenly I'm not sure) and now we will see Arjun finally step up to bat.

Hopefully he will not be as destructive as a bull in a china shop but I fear he lacks the foresight on such intricate delicacies. In his efforts to 'save Purvi' I fear he may outshine Punni by making Purvi more of an outcast. The saying, "things have to get worse before they get better" comes to mind.

Still I have hope that Arjun, in frustration, will smack his head on his Corporate Take Over 101 books and realize that if he was smart he should probably tackle the clan in the following order:

1.Archana to make sure she know's her daughter was never at fault.

2. Sulochana for extra support for Purvi.

3. Go after Punni to put the fear of God in her. Teach her a lesson - don't mess with what's mine and make good on his impassioned threat in the office after the MMS was released.

4. Manav - with or without DK's help

5. Tej - who knows Purvi and has been with her

6. Sachin, Savita and Ovi - Group smackdown for these three - maybe at another party? 🤣

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Darlyne

@Darlyne

Voyager

Posted: 13 years ago

#20

Originally posted by: bee5
Shyamala,
Another wonderful post!

Today's display of Archana's undoubtable protection and Manav's unquestionable trusts does seem like Arjun-Purvi's story is pushed to a cul-de-sac, but somehow I feel the union is just right around the corner. It is just a matter of Arjun to come to know of the happenings at the party and he would tell his side of the story.

At this moment Purvi cannot say anything, but Arjun can very well. More so, since DK is also going to be back. Lets see...

Thanks Shyamala for a very nice post, and analysis.

Bee, I agree with you and now expecting lot more from AK and DK...let's see.