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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Dear Janhvi,

I think that now, since Teju feels completely at home at the Karanjkars, she treats Purvi the way she treats Ovi. In fact she is gentler with Purvi than with Ovi; I remember how abruptly she drags Ovi away from the Mexican pasta and salad and forces her to come to the Karanjkars in the chawl, and not only eat kand poha and then dinner but stay the night as well, none of which she wants to do to begin with. Teju treats Ovi like a slightly retarded kid sister, whereas she is her twin and a successful model as well.

I think it should do Purvi some good to have a rough and tumble 'sibling' around; very good point it would smoothen out her rough edges and teach her survival tactics. Not just how to handle shilly-shallying boyfriends firmly (without either screeching at the top of her voice, or looking so much like a tragic muse and staring at him out of large accusing eyes that anyone within 100 yards would know something was up between the two of them), yes, one glance at her face and the cat would be out of the bag, ha! ha! but also how to tackle the vicious members of the Karanjkar parivaar. When I heard Purvi vouching 200% for Punni to Arjun, it made me feel queasy. All the Karanjakar women are certified idiots when it comes to their parivaar, and Purvi probably has the zeal of the convert, as she is a Karanjkar only by adoption. agree, totally idiotic of her to vouch for Punni, kind of insincere too as it is a white lie at best.

As for your being "too sensitive when it comes to Purvi", I am not surprised.If the Love-Purvi club in this forum, -Shyamala, 😆😆 - which would be about 95%, had their way, she would be neatly enclosed in a glass case like a piece of Dresden porcelain, safe from all shocks and protected from the big bad wolves. What with every frame of every scene being gone thru with a magnifying glass to identify every real or imaginary affront to Purvi, it is no wonder everyone seems to be perennially on edge.

My heart went out to her when she was in a flood of tears over that pagdi photo, but in general I have no sympathy to spare for either her or Arjun. The one is chronically ineffective when it is not a business matter, and the other says one I do not like foolish people, even if they are very young (though how you place Arjun at 20 I do not know. He must be 23-24, and Purvi 20+, or even 22. She is said to have been working for that firm for over 3 years, and how she got any education if she started working at 18, I cannot for the life of me understand). - I detest foolish people too, especially those that dissemble, so that may be the reason for my unreasonable insistence on Arjun coming clean :( Well, they go back and forth with Teju's age putting her between 19 and 20. Teju in one scene was shown to be older than Purvi, in another younger than her by a year. I assumed Arjun was a year older but maybe two so 22 or 23, you are right. Anyway, he is old enough to have sense. day that she will never talk to him and he is a stranger to her (when she plans to continue in his office) and the next day she turns up with a project file and glowers at him across the table, while he looks like something the cat brought in. I wonder what the other people there made of it.

As for me, right now, Teju is about the only character I can stand. Having her around is a tonic for nerves frayed by the eternal moping of Arjun and Purvi on the one hand and Manav and Archana on the other. Teju has been remarkably consistent so far, and I hope she stays that way. I am looking forward to seeing what Teju says and does when the truth about Arjun and Purvi is revealed.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: abhimg

Dear Shyamala,

As always, you ground us in reality and its very comforting and like i said before, quite calming to read your critical as well as fact based analysis and your opinions. You do seem to calm all fears out there...Oooh catty cat for Ovi, well said...agreed. Loved ur description of Punni- self delusion. I did like the lunch scene esp the point you made abt Purvi's thoughts trusting ARjun before he sent her that text...and i saw ur comments on Laurie's post, perfecto...it was too good...really you write well and your writing shows how experienced you are in presenting and analysis and synthesis both fact based and opinions, many thanks again. We wait for your posts and threads...

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Dear Archana,

That is a very well worked out and plausible scenario, but I feel that you are thinking on these complicated lines for the very good reason that Arjun-Purvi keep ricocheting from one crisis to another, and we are always on the lookout for yet another disaster.

I would like you to consider three points, all of which are a matter of fact and not of interpretation.

1) When DK gets that call from Manav about his wanting to fix the marriage date, the first thing they show him as thinking of is Arjun saying that he cannot marry Ovi as he loves someone else, adding a moment later, in response to the sharp question from his father ,"Purvi". He had agreed to Arjun's change of heart not only because he loves his son (after his own dry fashion, but very deeply nonetheless, as a precious gift from his beloved wife), but also because he thinks his wife would have wanted Arjun to marry the girl he loves. He does not come over as the heavy handed father despite his initial, and entirely understandable, burst of anger.He will not go back on this.

2) Though Purvi has the PoA and in theory does not have consult anyone about any decision she might want to take, in practice she does invariably consult Arjun on file and take both his inputs and his views. So, there is no possibility of her taking a major decision without Arjun being in the loop, and so if there is any flap, Arjun will of course defend her and mollify his father.

3) DK does not play any active role in the management of Arjun's firm, which Arjun runs independently right from the beginning.You will remembe that we have never seen Arjun consulting his father about anything; as Manav is a half partner, he does consult him about the chawl renovation project, but in general he does his own thing.

DK is now only looking after Manav's business affairs in Canada and their other affiliates outside Canada for the duration of Manav's stay in India. There is no indication that he takes more than a cursory interest in Arjun's firm ,and none at all in the individual projects they handle.

Given this why would DK issue an order about some matter that Arjun's firm is dealing with that could be (unknowingly) countermanded by Purvi? Project decisions are taken only by the person actually handling them, and DK is nowhere in the picture for any OVT project.

This apart, even if he did somehow give such an order, it would be done in writing. Purvi would immediately know whose order it was, and she would NEVER countermand DK's orders. She is really rather scared of him.

I do not know how far the above will carry conviction with you, but this is what I believe, on the basis of the facts as we know them so far. I am sure it will make you feel better! So don;t have any more funny feelings and relax.

This said, I would agree with your assessment of Ovi's likely reaction to Arjun slipping out of her hands. As I mentioned elsewhere, she is like a sleek, well fed and well cared for cat (not a kitten!) and if you stroke her fur the right way, she will purr and like your hand, but one wrong move and she will snarl and scratch.

Lastly, Archana, as regards the sentence in red, Punni is not thinking of tackling Arjun-Purvi first and then turning her sights on Ovi. It is in fact the opposite. She thinks that once Ovi is told about Arjun having an "affair' with Purvi, she will break the engagement (she does not know what Ovi is like when she is crossed!). As for Purvi, Punni is confident that after Arjun has once got engaged to Ovi, Purvi will not touch him with a barge pole. Thus she thinks that her road will be clear.What self-delusion!

Shyamala

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Dear Janhvi,

I think that now, since Teju feels completely at home at the Karanjkars, she treats Purvi the way she treats Ovi. In fact she is gentler with Purvi than with Ovi; I remember how abruptly she drags Ovi away from the Mexican pasta and salad and forces her to come to the Karanjkars in the chawl, and not only eat kand poha and then dinner but stay the night as well, none of which she wants to do to begin with. Teju treats Ovi like a slightly retarded kid sister, whereas she is her twin and a successful model as well.

I think it should do Purvi some good to have a rough and tumble 'sibling' around; it would smoothen out her rough edges and teach her survival tactics. Not just how to handle shilly-shallying boyfriends firmly (without either screeching at the top of her voice, or looking so much like a tragic muse and staring at him out of large accusing eyes that anyone within 100 yards would know something was up between the two of them), but also how to tackle the vicious members of the Karanjkar parivaar. When I heard Purvi vouching 200% for Punni to Arjun, it made me feel queasy. All the Karanjakar women are certified idiots when it comes to their parivaar, and Purvi probably has the zeal of the convert, as she is a Karanjkar only by adoption.

As for your being "too sensitive when it comes to Purvi", I am not surprised.If the Love-Purvi club in this forum, which would be about 95%, had their way, she would be neatly enclosed in a glass case like a piece of Dresden porcelain, safe from all shocks and protected from the big bad wolves. What with every frame of every scene being gone thru with a magnifying glass to identify every real or imaginary affront to Purvi, it is no wonder everyone seems to be perennially on edge.

My heart went out to her when she was in a flood of tears over that pagdi photo, but in general I have no sympathy to spare for either her or Arjun. I do not like foolish people, even if they are very young (though how you place Arjun at 20 I do not know. He must be 23-24, and Purvi 20+, or even 22. She is said to have been working for that firm for over 3 years, and how she got any education if she started working at 18, I cannot for the life of me understand). The one is chronically ineffective when it is not a business matter, and the other says one day that she will never talk to him and he is a stranger to her (when she plans to continue in his office) and the next day she turns up with a project file and glowers at him across the table, while he looks like something the cat brought in. I wonder what the other people there made of it.

As for me, right now, Teju is about the only character I can stand. Having her around is a tonic for nerves frayed by the eternal moping of Arjun and Purvi on the one hand and Manav and Archana on the other. Teju has been remarkably consistent so far, and I hope she stays that way. I am looking forward to seeing what Teju says and does when the truth about Arjun and Purvi is revealed.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

Shyamala, thanks for addressing my fears - what would we do without your voice of reason to calm us down? Yes, did think that Tej could be acting that way as she is getting quite comfortable at the Karanjikar residence. Treating Ovi like a retarded sister, who wouldn't? The girl comes across as a pompous airhead!

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Dear abhi,

What can I say in response to such very flattering words but Thanks!! If I could, I would blush, but I am afraid I am past the age for blushing, and in any case you would not be able to see it.

Now, as for our main dramatis personae, if you have not already seen it, you would enjoy reading the message I sent to Janhvi yesterday on this very thread.

Now we are waiting with bated breath to see what Purvi will reply when Archana asks her about "the girl who is trying to snatch away my daughter's happiness". If she tells the truth, the consequences will be unpredictable but definitely dismaying. If she dissembles, she will then realise that it is not so easy to come clean after all, and she might come to have some sympathy and understanding for Arjun's predicament.

This said, I have always felt that Arjun should have found some way of cornering Ovi, lugging her to a really quiet place sans Teju, and told her the truth very kindly but firmly. This more than anything else because he knows her since forever, and obviously has a soft corner for her and does not want to hurt her more than he can help. This is the reason for all that hesitation and throat clearing that has, so far, never come to anything. He feels sorry for her more than for Purvi, though the knows how much Purvi will be suffering, because, as Archana pointed out, he firmly believes, indeed he knows, that Purvi and he will be together in the end, whereas Ovi is going to be left out in the cold. We think that Ovi's love for Arjun is a childish infatuation, but you cannot expect the object to this love to share this viewpoint, especially not when she looks up at him and says that she loves him and that he is her life. The sense of guilt for not being able to love her in return would, as Archana had explained so lucidly, be acute, and this paralyses him.

However, he does not seem to have grasped the simple fact that the longer this charade is maintained, the more Ovi will be hurt when the truth comes out. But then, it is typical of a man to avoid unpleasantness as long as he can, and when I say this, it is despite (and perhaps because of ) the fact that, as Sir Humphrey Appleby (of Yes Minister) says in the opposite context, most of my friends have been and are men.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: abhimg

I do hope Purvi realizes and gives some benefit of doubt to Arjun (although he has goofed up many a time and like you said should take Ovi where there is no cell phone, no meeting, no distraction and TELL HER THE TRUTH about ARVI)...😳

Loved this analysis too (liked all of it and how you go about writing with emotions but with your head on ur shoulders and really described well), hit the nail on the head 😊