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Posted: 13 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: naresh123

Tanya di 1st time Arman divorce in court archu ne divorce ke liye mana kardiya tha... I think purvi stop arman divorce... Wht do u think about arman divorce tanya di?

how can Purvi stop the divorce ?
I think Archu wil stop so that Punni's rishta can go ahead .
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I hope Archana does something to fix the damage she caused to Punni's engagement.
I agree about Teju and Archana, I don't want her to know that is her daughter just yet. I want to see them bonding more and for Archana to get the feeling that they are connected like she did when she remembered Teju as a baby. It just makes things more interesting
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Posted: 13 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: loveanime

I know there is lots of comparisons here about how Archana can love Purvi more than Teju and Ovi, how is that possible, it is against nature. I find this way of thinking that adopted children are somehow less than blood children a very cruel and cold way of thinking. Archana might have many faults but I find her most endearing quality is her ability to love Sachin and Purvi more than anyone else. I believe this is nature versus nurture. There are lots of mothers who give birth to kids but do terrible things to them, where did their love go, did it not exist in their nature to love them. Perfect example in this show is Savita's love for Manav, many went as far as saying she is adopted mother that is why she is so cruel, this to justify that only adopted parents can be cruel, such a sad thought and bad stigma for adopted parents. Savita did what she did regardles of being his biological mom or not.
I think nurture is very powerful feeling, mother's relationship to a child is more than just a name on a birth certificate, she nurses and takes care of that child since it was a baby. It is love that comes from that kind of bond that cannot be compared or matched. I know there is a special feeling if you carry a child in your womb, but what happens if you dont nurture that feeling and the child is taken away from you then do you still love the child like nothing else. I am skeptical because if you don't nurture that love you will lose the connection that you once had that is normal human tendency. I find the alterior thinking that a mother's love for a child that she gives birth to is higher and more special than the child she raised is the one i disagree with. That is why according to me Archana might love Ovi and Teju but she will never have that bond with them that she shares with Purvi.
I think it would be a different scenario if she raised them all equally at the same time, then if she chose Purvi over Ovi and Teju then we can have something to complain about. But if you think about it don't all parents do that regardless of whether child is biological or not, favoritism is natural in every household. I dont necessarily see how favoritism translates to loving one child less, some kids bond with their parents better on a more emotional level, it is just natural but doesn't mean parents care any less for the child that can be more distant from them. I just see Purvi as Archana daughter regardles of whether she is her blood or not, she nurtured her so she will have a bond she will not have with Ovi and Teju that for me shows a mother's true love. If she nurtured her other children she would have that special bond with them too. Parents do favoritism in kids intentionally or unintentionally that should not be influenced by if the child is related to them by blood or not.
This thought process that adopted kids should mean less to their parents, and once they have real kids they should be disregarded is what creates the seed of unwant and unworthiness in the child and they don't deserve that. I felt bad for Purvi when she felt the need to be reassured, what else did you expect Archana to say 'oh sorry my bad i am sorry you are not my real daughter that is why i shared nothing with you now off you go and mind your own business'. Archana as any loving mother said what her daughter needed to hear that she is very special to her, why shouldn't she be, does Purvi deserve less, and it is upto Archana to make sure Purvi doesnt feel this way again. Sadly all adopted kids have this nagging thought that one day their parents will just leave them behind once their purpose is fulfiled. Archana adoped Purvi under ghastly of circumstances sure at that time she needed a purpose, so if someday that purpose doesn't exist should Purvi not mean anything anymore.
This idea that people adopt as if doing favor on the child, so once that ehsaan favor has been fulfiled should their importance be any less, maybe this is unrealistic but I find it cruel as well. World is cruel I guess and people are use and throw, but can we place a mother's love for her child above such cruelty.



Hi there! Nice post about nurture vs nature, and I agree that nurture probably outlasts nature. Raising any child is a big responsibility, and being able to love an adopted child and treat them as one's own is commendable. Ideally, If there are both adopted and biological children in a household, they should be treated equally, like they're all equally worthy of parent's love. There are two extremes in this however; one's that some parents who adopt when they don't have children may neglect once they have their own; the other extreme is when parents try so hard to make the adopted child feel secure that they neglect their biological children. Both are wrong.

For me personally, I have no issues about Purvi being adopted. What I do have an issue with is that Ovi and Teju, and even Sachu are being neglected to highlight Purvi. Just like Archana will always have a special bond with Purvi; Manav's bond with his daughters and Sachu should not be replaced by his bond with Purvi. If it comes to taking sides, Archana may side with Purvi coz of that special bond, and Manav should side with his own daughters. Manav may think of Purvi as a daughter, and he should. But he should not give up or neglect his daughters while doing so. If you see the show and around the forum, you'll see that Purvi is pretty much everywhere. There's no sign of Ovi-Teju and Sachu is shown once in a while, and mostly when any of the Canada kids are shown or spoken of, it's nearly always with a negative connotation. Now, Teju is liked better coz she's starting to bond with Archana. Is Purvi a better person simply coz she's adopted and/or raised by Archu? Does she deserve the "guy" (Arjun) just coz she's adopted and/or raised by Archu and Ovi's not? There are so many supporters of Purvi-Arjun when their love story, if there's even one, has not even started and there's an innocent girl madly in love with him that nobody cares about coz she was not adopted and/or raised by Archana but raised by Manav. Does Purvi deserve all of her parent's love and appreciation and attention just coz she was adopted and/or raised by Archu? Does only Purvi deserve to get the chance to reunite arman when she knows the whole story, while the biological children are kept in the dark by all concerned parties and thus deprived of the chance to reunite their parents and the credit and glory that comes with it?

As a person, I find Purvi self-righteous and highly arrogant and immature. That has nothing to do with her being adopted. I would have liked her better if she was still shown as smart, but calmer and sweeter, maybe a little like Ovi. And I would also be able to appreciate her more if I stop feeling that she's hogging all the glory and the love, and will continue to do so while the biological children and the other adopted child likewise wallow in the shadows feeling neglected by both their parents. In general, most of the members who dislike Purvi dislike her not because she's adopted and should not be given any importance; but because we don't like her nature, especially her interations in office and because we think Purvi is the only child given importance and screen time while the other children are neglected. And this grievance is for Sachu also, who's also adopted.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I agree that Purvi is being shown the most out of the new generation . I think she is being groomed as the next lead of the show maybe after Ankita leaves it ..
She was taken for the Zee Cine awards along with the heroines of the other shows ...
But right now , its is still Manav and Archana who are the USP of this show ..When the show focusses on them , the TRPs go high ...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hi Sowmaya , how are you doing ? Enjoying the show or not ? 😆
It's doing a lot better in terms of TRPs ...
from 2.03 to 3.6 is not that bad ...still not like it used to be this time last year .
last year this week the TRPs were 5.85
Edited by Tanyaz - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Off to bed . see you tomorrow guys .
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Tanya I don't think this show would survive without Hiten and Ankita, they are what is keeping this show going right now. I wouldn't watch if they left, if that ever happens it would be best for the show to end right there.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: Tanyaz

Hi Sowmaya , how are you doing ? Enjoying the show or not ? 😆

It's doing a lot better in terms of TRPs ...
from 2.03 to 3.6 is not that bad ...still not like it used to be this time last year .
last year this week the TRPs were 5.85



since you spoke about last year , I couldnt help but post this ...:

december 2010 - march 2011 .. was the busiest time on the forum ... so many things happening ...
zra , ArMan reunion , jdj , GIFTH , valentines special performance on star one , sbs/sbb segments, and the speculations about their performances , their scores , the jdj forum madness , drooling over jia's caps of the performances , all those amazing siggies and avis made during that time .. sigh ... those days will never come back again ...😔 ..


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tanyaz

Hi Sowmaya , how are you doing ? Enjoying the show or not ? 😆

It's doing a lot better in terms of TRPs ...
from 2.03 to 3.6 is not that bad ...still not like it used to be this time last year .
last year this week the TRPs were 5.85



Hi Tanya,

I'm good. How are you doing? Been busy, but I come to the forum when free. You're doing a great job with the BU thread 😊 TRPs have never interested me, I don't follow them. For me, a show's forum activity is a good indication if the show's doing well. If the forum is dead, the show will soon be also and if the forum's active, the show's doing well. Though IF members make a very small percentage of TV viewers and dont affect TRP ratings much, still we are a good sized sample 😆 with members from all walks of life and ages so if a lot of members follow a show that's good news for the show.

I'm kinda enjoying the show, I like the actors but the characters are irritating me 😆 Tanya, don't you think the other children are being neglected in favor of Purvi? It's not their fault that they are the biological children or that they were not raised by Archana, so why are they not getting any storyline or screen space. Manav did a good job raising the children, yes he should have stopped his mom from talking bad about Archana in front of them, but the kids will only believe what they are told. And they seem to be generally nice people. They think Archana abandoned them, and she didn't help by not being in contact with them at all these years. Even now, they're being kept in the dark when they have all the rights to know what's happening in their parent's lives. And Purvi's all set to reunite arman and take all the credit, and Ovi-Teju don't even know what's happening. I think that's highly unfair to them. Sachu too, he's misguided and wrong, and I think it's Archana's and Manav's responsibility to set him right. Not let him believe lies and let him do wrong things to prove they love him.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tanyaz

You are right .Archana should ask for Ovi and Teju's pictures but you have to try and understand one thing , this is not reality , this is drama ...Just think , if Archana will see Teju's picture then how will Teju and her bond will be shown to develop ...You have to make some concessions because these writers need twists and dramas like this to make money ...
They want to show Teju and Archana bonding unknowingly so how can Archana see her picture ...
This is definitely not something wrong on just Archana's character but this is the requirement of the story ...

Archana is not ignoring her kids ...in fact she is giving up Manav only for the sake of her children , she loves her children more than she loves Manav ..In fact she is being unfair to herself and also Purvi for the sake of her chidren's happiness. Sachin wants his real mother Shravani in her place and her own daughter told her that she hates her .Sachin alo told her that her daughters love Shravani ...This is why she is doing this ..Foolish thing to do ...but she is only doing this because she loves her children ...
For me the only bad mother in this show now is Savita ...

Right now Archana is being a bad lover and wife ( because she is not telling Manav the truth and is trying to move away from him ) .But after what he did to her , taking her kids away 18 years ago and making them hate their mother ...I think I don't blame Archna for saying ' I lived without him for 18 years , I can do it again '.

but i think archana's interest about ovi teju very less.what my daughters thinking about me i should know from them directly not by any other else.may b they hating her there is logic bc they never seen her and savi even manav didnt give them good impression, so how she expect without meeting them they will love their mom?she should try to fight with everyone that i m their mom i hv 100%rite to talk them.tanya u r talking about sachin he also adopt by archu so she giving importance him more than her own daughters even than soham before leap.i m not telling archu/anki's fault bt i m saying CV not showing minimum natural and logical fact.u see in YA RISHTA... akshara is carrying her baby all the time and sharing all feelings and expressing it to all its very natural.when CV think archu manav will b shown as parents of adult kids ppl expect they will b matured and concern about about them but here CV showing ovi falling in love with a guy thinking,dreaming him side by side her mom also dreaming and romancing with her dad.now archana manav love should b shown very matured way.i m disagree with u that archana manav romance is USP of the show and TRP increasing only for their track i dont think so , lots of arjun-purvi fan waiting for their romance and interested for it not about manav archana.may b i m little bit harsh but its true TRP increasing their fan contribution also there,u cant ignore it.i dont see anyone waiting for archu manav romance scene how ppl waiting for it bc it was sushita.hiten is very good actor but i dont find anki-hiten is good pair bc hiten look more older than ank[its my opnion]ii m very very sorry for my nonsense talking may b i will come in forum very rarely. bt my love for ankita will b always with her.
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