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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: Tanyaz

Sowmya , I appreciate your concern but I don't want to put my own personal judgement in this thread .Let the members decide what is right and what is wrong ..I am no one to say who is right and who is wrong..

This is a daily show and it wil l have strange twists and turns ...every character in this show is grey .Maybe for some the grey is light grey but for some it may be dark grey ..
We just have to respect the fact that everyone thinks in their own way and we are all sensible people with a mind of our own ...
Why should I bulldose my judgements on others ...
You and I thought that Archana was wrong , very wrong .. some here were feeling sorry for her and were feeling that she was being just like she is sensitive and loving towards her sister..
I am not saying she was right but I am just saying that it is up to people to believe what they want to believe ...
As for being a wrong influence , I don't think that will be the case .SOTD is not important enough to do something like this.It is just a little thread for some daily dose of entertainment for the members .It is not to be taken seriously at all..People who don't think it is good don't take part and some who have fun do ...that's it ...
I think the only thing that matters to the CVs are the TRPs ...that's all they worry about ...
They do not even care about moral values and all that .If the TRPs will be good , they will change Archana into a serial killer and if TRPs want they will change her back into a saint ...
Maybe they do check this thread ...but at the most to get an idea what the members of IF want and even for that I am not sure of ...
Honestly , it is just for fun thing ...
I nominate according to the length and the importance that a certain character has in that show ..Like Dharmesh is negative but he is there for some tiem so I will nominate him ...It's up to people to decide how they see him ...
thanks again for your concern , I appreciate it ...😊
Sowmya , we have to trust the members here ...the silent majority may not have th time to participate in the discussions but that doesn't mean that they don't know what is right and what is wrong ...
The most important thing here is that I don't want to push my opinion on others ...I just don't like doing that yaar ...hope you understand ...



Tanya:

I read your thread each day though I don't post. it helps me see an alternate point of view. I don't post because I don't believe my vote is kimti as any character I would vote for does not have a chance of winning. See there is no fixed parameter for the voting process though the process itself is democratic.

I totally second Sowmya's opinion and I know many others do and I also know that till date many have communicated this to you in the form of PM

We do not tell you this as a voting member, we tell u this as the OWNER of the thread.

I think more than appreciation, you should STRONGLY CONSIDER what sowmya and I and even other members have told u.

When u started this thread I had been inactive on the forum. When I came back I remember you saying that this thread was to send CVs a message about their plots and character portrayals. this was pre-re marriage. You said you wanted the members of this forum to tell them when they were going the wrong way and also to tell them when they were doing the right thing.

the basic premise of your thread is LOST. it no longer exists.

No one is asking you to push your opinion on other members as another voting member. No one is asking the members to change their votes. several occasions some more than note the people on this thread post using the fan reason. that is their choice just as it is yours.

As the OWNER of the thread ask yourself if there is any purpose to receiving this "Star" award and recognition of Archana each deay - in sickness in health, in good in bad, in single status in married status, in delusionary state of mind and normal state of mind, in bigamy, in monogamy - ask yourself this as THE OWNER of this thread not a voting member.

You say today that the CVs do not check this thread, I disagree and many others do. The CVs check this and every other thread on the forum. Before there was SOTD and Kool's commentary. it gave the CVs a balanced view. Then Kools was maliciously driven of this forum. I do not need anyone to agree with me on why Kools left because I know exactly why she left, what happened, when it happened and with who it happened. the question here is not why she left.

the problem is that there is a vaccum on this forum for the opposite perspective. SOTD's views are not balanced for the CVs.

You closed FOTD as you did not want to give a wrong message and at that time I told you that it was not FOTD but SOTD that you need to close as the more dangerous lopsided message was being given by SOTD. I still believe this. I am not saying this to bash you or bash this thread. I am just observing some effects of the recognition and nomination thread.

I know how important it is for fans to have recognition thread for characters or actors that they can relate to only a deeply personal level and you seem to have a few regulars that come daily to share in a common pleasure, I can understand how pleasing this must be but as the OWNER of a thread especially one that is as popular as this one - over 100 votes just today - you have a responsibility to gauge a) what is the purpose of the thread and b) if there is a message is it a correct one.

A star should be awarded based on merit of the character's actions not on our empathy with the character or our appreciation of an actor. I do not want you to push your opinions on others or judges their choices but I second sowyma's comments with arequest to discontinue the poll which does not serve any legitimate purpose and keep the thread only as a daily appreciation to Ankita and the character Archana and Arman.

It would send a different message to the CVs - the fans of the leads and the actors are still supporting their efforts inspite of the CVs attempt to ruin the characters and force the actors to play awful plots.

Don't close SOTD - but seriously consider stopping the polling and keeping it as a daily appreciation thread.

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Edited by --Hope-- - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: star_wars

Then many days we would be voting for blanks.



karen this is exactly why I suggest tanya stop the polling and just keep the thread

many days there is no one deserving to win and members out of lack of choice vote for reasons based less on the characters meritful actions and more on other unrelated things.

No one is asking anyone to change their vote. We are just asking tanya why the polling should continue when it is more to show empathy or appreciation of an actor than to convey support of someon'e right decision.

I mean it can just be an appreciation thread na? Then the participation itself will indicate the character and actor's popularity?
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: karsri



TanyaZ- I am curious, does Cvs or production people read what viewers write on IF or other blogs???

I know people send emails directly to the channels and comment on their websites or facebooks.
I heard some people even call them.



karsri, sorry to butt in but yes they do.

CVs, production people even the actors come daily and check threads, they actually use IF - which is a very popular forum as their test environment for certain tracks - this is why you notice some tracks are left unfinished because they have not generated the desired interest.

when the forum is in an uproar over a track - be it good like the remarriage or bad like the divorce or the shravani track or the dharmesh track and now the giving baby away track -they continue with it for perpetuity totally draining viewers emotionally - becasue there was tremendous interest, ongoing debate, sustained empathy and a loyal fan base.

archana's baby being given away to arman would be the worst things for archana fans just like arman divorce but did they will do it somehow just like they did divorce if they realize that fans will not leave inspite of the bad tracks. When archana gets nominated on the day that she decides to give away her baby - it is because she was empathized with - but the CVs get the message that no matter how crappy you make archana's life and the lives of her loyal fans she is still worthy of merit and regonition.

this is dangerous. they will continue to destroy archana with their crappy experiments. u saw how they forced ankita to do the savita track. CV Joshi is a horrid man. he has a primitive brain.

this is not the man you want to be giving a subtle or even wound out message too. it will only backfire
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Posted: 14 years ago
Hope there is no way I would stop the polling . The polling right now is around 70 to 80 votes a day so obviously it means that so many people come every day and happily participate in this little activity .It makes me ver y very happy that somewhere I involves so many people in one place .
All around the world , 70 to 80 people get together in one place and have some harmless fun and it is because of me ...and this thought only puts a smile on my face .
Right now I am at home .Both my sons have their busy lives .My husband is not here and is in the middle east .I miss him all the time , believe me all the time .My whole day is filled with just cleaning , cooking , trading and between checking stocks and mailing etc and checking the votes and keeping in touch with my friends ...because I am alone here I don't even have a busy social life .If I go to anyone's house it feels strange to go alone ..
Why I am saying all this to you is because I am trying to tell you what this little contact with the rest of the world means to me ..
I have always been a very happy sort of a person ,I like happy people around me , everyone having fun and everyone enjoying themselves but sometiems life puts you in a situation when you cannot do thinsg the way yo uwan tto do them ..so maybe this is my way of finding to keep happy and still connected with everyone in my own little way ...
believe me , that is all I am doing here ... have a little fun , that's it .I mean no harm , I swear .
I am not at all a discussion kind of a person .In fact if I have my way I would not debate .I am really worried when I am putting my thoughts on a post because I know that I am not doing a good job .But it was always numbers that were my obsession .It is not just this SOTD bu tI even check the box office figures of newly released films every week , the finanacial times , price of oil, and gold , cricket statistics etc ...I just love numbers and almost everything I do have numbers playing a big role in it ..
I love to come and see how the numbers are doing the talking in the way of votes ...
It gives me pleasure and it is fun for me to see this ...
I am not that much interested in the debates ( admire those who can ) but what interests me is the number of votes each character is getting .That gives me the buzz...
If I have to close the polling , I might as well close the thread totally .There is nothing for me in it then .Plus I am aware that many people do not have the time to discuss but that does not mean that they should not take part in a simple daily activity which takes them away from their every day life's problems and involves them in this thread ..
Obviously this is working or else we would not be getting so many votes ...
If something is so wrong then it would stop on it's own . But if it is growing then I don't think it is wrong ..
I would appreciate it if I am allowed to have my fun .I am not hurting anyone or doing anything that is morally incorrect ...just having some fun and letting others also have fun with me ...
Ok now about the nominations ..Now that is a matter of opinion. In this forum I can see that some like Archana and some like savita ...that is perfectly Ok ...
Who is anyone to say that the other people are wrong .I am no one to say that yo u should not like savita or whoever yo ulike ...
same thing goes for me too ...
I always keep emphasising that every character is grey here . My favourite one is Archana , I like her for many reasons , I know she is foolish bu t I stil lsee selflessnes in her ...some members here call her manipulative and scheming ...I don't see that in her at all ..
They are not wrong but neither am I ..Its;'s the way we loo k at things .
A lot many find savita a rocking character ...like my friends Umi and Jai ...I don't think so ..I think the way savita threw her pregnant bahu out of the house for a gold necklace was even worse than an emotional and guilty Archana telling her sister ' take my baby ' ...but that is my thinking , may not be yours ..
What you may find wrong is not wrong for me so I nominate every important chaarcter and let people make their minds about it themselves .
This show is the number one watched show in India and abroad ...it is obviosuly not so wrong or bad ...
If there are enough votes that say that this particular character is the winner ...then I am going to respect that ...
that is the verdict of the majority ..
I have tried very hard to let you guys see why I do what I do ...I didn't have to do that but I still am ...I hope you all will understand ...
Edited by Tanyaz - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
Ok without getting into all the lengthy discussion and reassurance etc. etc. I am just going to give a simple suggestion. If you feel it's good follow, otherwise, no problem. Why don't we make another thread...like an Archana fan thread, and keep SOTD as a thread to send a positive message out to the CVs? If you don't want to change SOTD, then why don't we make a new thread called "Best character of the day" where people can vote based on only the character's actions (not based on who they are a fan of) and SOTD can be a place where people can vote based on whatever they choose be it appreciation of the character, or actor or whatever.
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Posted: 14 years ago
Seriously Tanyaz, I am more interested in the amount of people that press the "like button" for Written Updates than the amount of votes that a character get. I feel so happy when the WU "likes" top 100 as I feel the updaters are being rewarded for their hardwork. Many times I depend on WU to decide if to watch the show or not. WU guides me whether to post or vote silently in SOTD. Hats off to you and ballarox.👏👏 You guys are the true ⭐️s.
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Posted: 14 years ago

I think the main thing that the production house is looking for are the TRPs of the show .they are looking at numbers but th TRP numbers ...

In fact I have even read somewhere that sushant rajput had shown his displeasure tha tweekly charts coem out and they change the characters according to those charts ...
Edited by Tanyaz - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: --Hope--



karsri, sorry to butt in but yes they do.

No problem. No need to say sorry.

CVs, production people even the actors come daily and check threads, they actually use IF - which is a very popular forum as their test environment for certain tracks - this is why you notice some tracks are left unfinished because they have not generated the desired interest.

I don't think they do. haven't seen any evidence of it. I noticed tracks are being changed/modified when TRPs go down only. This form might be popular one but there are tons of other social media (blogs, tweets, facebook,.etc..). people use those to send emails directly, write comments on channel websites, facebook pages. As for as i know andalso read in one article that they don't gain any thing from on line viewers. I read in many places that TRPs makes story changes.

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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: Tanyaz

I think the main thing that the production house is looking for are the TRPs of the show .they are looking at numbers but th TRP numbers ...

In fact I have even read somewhere that sushant rajput had shown his displeasure tha tweekly charts coem out and they change the characters according to those charts ...


TanyaZ - it is not just sushant I heard many other actors saying that. too.
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Posted: 14 years ago
A very clear example is the way the divorce track was changed .On the day of the divorce , archaan was the star and first the TRPs were above 7 then the next week only it crashed down to 2.8 .Immediately a big meetign was called including Ekta kapoor ..the character Jaywant Rane was introduced and the one year leap ws planned .
before then I think they were planning to get manav married to Sharavni ...but as soon as the TRPs hit 2.8 , they were forced to change the track ...
People gave that idea a big thumbs down , they wanted Manav only with Archana .
Everytime TRPs go down , they immediately put romance in the show ...they keep trying storied involving side characters ..their biggest challenge is to have story line hit big which doesn't only revolves around the lead ..
tha t is something that the character of Dharmesh has done and despite of hating them ...the karnjakar sisters also are a TRP favourite ...
That is why the story is bringing back Dharmesh and it is now about the kaarnjkar sisters ...
Edited by Tanyaz - 14 years ago

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