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omshreejaanu

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Posted: 14 years ago

#91

Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam
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ArMan's goofs up in these 2 ppl's lives cannot b overlooked Sawmya (i hope i can call u like this😊) but here again each character has its share of responsibilty in the whole mess

Omshreejaanu, of course you can call me Sowmya. I would love it if Archana can somehow turn around and tell everybody that she only wanted to inform everybody of Madz's decision, but she does not want Madz to divorce Dharmesh for Vaishali's sake nor does she want Vaishali to go back to Dharmu. I will applaud Archana then. But I dont have hopes of that happening, so until then I'll stick to my stand of her being manipulative 😊.

Done Sowmya. Lets c wats in store though i too dont trust PR Cvs. I'll stick 2 foolishness😉😆
Coming to Shravani's and Jaywant's faults in the pertinent situations, I agree Shravani was at some fault and also that she was in the know from the beginning.
Yeah. Wats sad if despite being educated n financially independent she too had the same 17th century mentality under the facade of a modern girl. She was conveniently tradional n modern when the situations demanded it😉
But Jaywant was innocent---I'm not saying he was a good man, but he did not know that Archana agreed to marry him only coz of Manav, he did not know that she still loved Manav and had no intentions of committing to him. He really loved her once she became his fiance and his hatred for Manav was because of Archana. That Jaywant was bad doesnt make Archana foolish or naive or innocent in leading him on.
Here again i agree. Whether Jay was an opportunist was not the question. Archana destroyed the man's life 4 Manav's zimmedaari which is not fair. He did care 4 her n started getting possessive abt her, very logical 2 me. He felt cheated n excessive hate 4 Manav that made him bitter n revengeful. I was among those who believed that if he married Archana, the plot he concocted wud have never happened coz he wud have fallen in love with Archu. Ahhhhhhhhh why talk abt spilled milk but one person who wud love this post of mine wud b Varsha i'm sure. Our love 4 Jaywant has not decreased at any cost😳😆

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omshreejaanu

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Posted: 14 years ago

#92

Originally posted by: shootingstar27

She knew of his intention and his nature when Ajit told her about the papers framing Manav that she supposedly signed. To her credit, she was trying to move on with Jaywant. In the Ganpatti Charturthi episode, she was having fun with her family, didn't give importance to Manav but Manav went to jail and her resolve broke and she was back to protecting and fighting for her Manav.

I don't feel Archu should apologise to Jaywant, by the time she ran away she knew he was marrying her only to get revenge. It wasn't just Manav who told her that but Satish too, someone she has high regards for. why say sorry to somene who wants to ruin your life?

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sowmya

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Posted: 14 years ago

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She knew of his intention and his nature when Ajit told her about the papers framing Manav that she supposedly signed. To her credit, she was trying to move on with Jaywant. In the Ganpatti Charturthi episode, she was having fun with her family, didn't give importance to Manav but Manav went to jail and her resolve broke and she was back to protecting and fighting for her Manav.

I don't feel Archu should apologise to Jaywant, by the time she ran away she knew he was marrying her only to get revenge. It wasn't just Manav who told her that but Satish too, someone she has high regards for. why say sorry to somene who wants to ruin your life?

The underlined part is precisely my point. Archana was fighting and doing her duties by her manav, who was at the point technically only her ex-husband. It should have been her Jaywant, since he was her fiance. And is it really so great that after getting engaged to a man, she was ignoring her ex-husband? I dont think so-that is the way it should be. It would have been to her credit if she had refused to marry Jaywant due to pressure from Manav. It would have been to her credit if she had broken off the engagement as soon as she knew that Jaywant was bad or that marriage involved intimacy for which she was not ready. It would have been to her credit if she had given her relation with Jay, which she had agreed to, a fighting chance. She was, in a sense, cheating with manav being engaged with Jay. And at that time, she was had very modern thoughts and not regressive/old-fashioned at all. Which leads me to say that she chooses her time to become regressive or progressive in her thought process, just like Shravani 😉😃.

And about apologizing to Jay, forget about that. Did she even acknowledge, even to herself, that she was wrong? Two wrongs dont make a right, and Archana was wrong also.

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omshreejaanu

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Posted: 14 years ago

#94

Ok girls, need 2 go, trippos r up n a busy Sunday ahead.
It was nice talking 2 u Sowmya n may b we'll continue this discussion of manipulation n foolishness on Monday😉😆
Omana i'm happy 2 c u posting ur views.😊 Keep posting😃
C Ya girls.🤗

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sowmya

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Posted: 14 years ago

#95

Here i must say Omana is right, in the sense that b4 knowing the truth, ArMan behaviours were pathetic, the engagement scene, the constant crying n eyelocking in front of Jaywant.... It wasn't fair towards the guy
But the moment Archu learned n got the truth confirmed, she didn't have 2 apologise 2 Jaywant. Why say sorry 2 someone who is going 2 call her characterless n drop her like a sack of potatoes in her maayka after 1 year of marriage?
Now whether Jay was just bluffing 2 hide his severely bruised ego, we dunno but the truth is he was planning revenge n ruining of Archu's life!!

Do we know that was his plan from the beginning? I felt he made that plan when he saw how Archana loved manav even after being engaged to him. And shouldn't she have broken off the engagement as soon as she knew instead of eloping from the mandap on the day of marriage. She had plenty of time to do so. But she went back with her mom to convince Jay's mom for the marriage even after Manav was jailed and Jay's involvement came out. Wasnt that wrong then? So was that revenge by humiliating Jay for planning to humiliate her by dumping her 1 year after marriage?

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sowmya

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Posted: 14 years ago

#96

Originally posted by: omshreejaanu
Ok girls, need 2 go, trippos r up n a busy Sunday ahead.
It was nice talking 2 u Sowmya n may b we'll continue this discussion of manipulation n foolishness on Monday😉😆
Omana i'm happy 2 c u posting ur views.😊 Keep posting😃
C Ya girls.🤗

Same here. I'll call you Jaanu or Shree if you dont mind since your full ID is a bit long 😛

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sowmya

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Posted: 14 years ago

#97

Whether Jay was an opportunist was not the question. Archana destroyed the man's life 4 Manav's zimmedaari which is not fair. He did care 4 her n started getting possessive abt her, very logical 2 me. He felt cheated n excessive hate 4 Manav that made him bitter n revengeful. I was among those who believed that if he married Archana, the plot he concocted wud have never happened coz he wud have fallen in love with Archu. Ahhhhhhhhh why talk abt spilled milk but one person who wud love this post of mine wud b Varsha i'm sure. Our love 4 Jaywant has not decreased at any cost😳😆

Precisely my point 😃

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Posted: 14 years ago

#98

archana messed up jaywant & shravani's life by her own hypocrisy ..... its only bcoz of her that these characters turned negative

jaywant wanted to marry her for money ..... no doubt ...... but he never wanted to harm her initially

only bcoz of archana's shameless behaviour with manav jay turned negative bcoz it was against his male ego

& poor shravani just suffered & suffered at hands of archana's quest of becoming mahaan & damodar's torture

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shootingstar27

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Posted: 14 years ago

#99

Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam

The underlined part is precisely my point. Archana was fighting and doing her duties by her manav, who was at the point technically only her ex-husband. It should have been her Jaywant, since he was her fiance. And is it really so great that after getting engaged to a man, she was ignoring her ex-husband? I dont think so-that is the way it should be. It would have been to her credit if she had refused to marry Jaywant due to pressure from Manav. It would have been to her credit if she had broken off the engagement as soon as she knew that Jaywant was bad or that marriage involved intimacy for which she was not ready. It would have been to her credit if she had given her relation with Jay, which she had agreed to, a fighting chance. She was, in a sense, cheating with manav being engaged with Jay. And at that time, she was had very modern thoughts and not regressive/old-fashioned at all. Which leads me to say that she chooses her time to become regressive or progressive in her thought process, just like Shravani 😉😃.

And about apologizing to Jay, forget about that. Did she even acknowledge, even to herself, that she was wrong? Two wrongs dont make a right, and Archana was wrong also.

She did but then Mano baba got a heart attack and everyone except him blamed her for it and she decided to not break the engagement to keep her family happy. After Manav got out of jail, she did what she asked to do by Jaywan't mom, quit her job, cooked for them,she seemed resigned to living live like a lifeless doll even after her haldi ceremony when she went to see Manav and he asked to call off the wedding she didn't even though she is was determined to get through with the wedding. I see that as her giving her relationship with Jaywant a chance. I still think if it Satish didn't persuade and support she would have married Jaywant, she needed a push, she woudn't have come up with the idea of running away from her own wedding on her own.

I'm not saying Archu is right all the time cuz she most certainly isn't. I just don't see her a scheming person thats all. You need brains for that which Archu lacks 😆 😆I get worried when I see her frowning and lines appear on her pretty forehead cuz that means she is thinking very hard but the decisions she makes most often than not would be silly and doesn't make much sense to anyone but her.

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Posted: 14 years ago

#100

jaywant was too shrewd to be manipulated by anyone leave alone Archana , the moment Dharmu asked him if he was interested in marrying her, he started making big plans of being one of the partners, climbing the career ladder by using Archana, m glad Archu ran off from the mandap, for once she put herself before her family. Jaywant would have ruined her life and Manav's.

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