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--Hope--

@--Hope--

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Posted: 15 years ago

#81

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000
A sick and immensely tired Savita who was going to sleep at 8 in the night without eating dinner analyzed Manav very accurately even in that fuddled state . She said 1] You have come here NOT coz u LOVE me like before but DUTIFULLY , only after realising that I am seriously sick now .

2] This has nothing to do with EHSAAS . U see guys Manav had LIED to her that AB MUJHE EHSAAS ho gaya hai .She accurately replied that EHSAAS BIHSAAS Kuch nahi , its DUTY that called u . A little LATE in the day .

3] The bond between u and me is now KHOKLA

4] Blood does become thin as Life takes turns ..this is what life taught me

Upon which Manav said NO . Its NOT true . I DO love u .

Upon which she bluntly asked him ..........Really ? Then will u dump Archana for me ?

Upon which Manav remained silent .

Kools:

going only on the basis of commentary and update, no energy left to watch this pathethic pathos.

Upon which she bluntly asked him ..........Really ? Then will u dump Archana for me ?

this statement in itself does not make me see her as Cruella de Vil.

Parents know when their kids are lying to them or being insincere. It is a built in radar that most parents especially mothers have and when we want to find out the truth most parents use the shock and awe approach knowingly or unknowingly - ask a "closed" question - one where the answer can only be a Yes or a No - because if you ask an Open Ended Question - the explanations include excuses which are based on other insincerities or convenient half-truths. Even uneducated parents have this basic skill.

Had Manav really been sincere or had not given up on his mother - instead of walking away and assuming the worst about his mother he would have dug deeper to sift the true feelings/insecurities from the question itself - he would have said "Why mom - you know I would be unhappy living without either of you - would you want me to be unhappy? Don't you love me enough? Had he done this I would have thought his plans of making up were sincere becasue he was trying to genuinely communicate and resolve the problem rather than being hypersensitive to anything the woman has to say.

How she answered that question would have told me if she was Cruella de Vil

Edited by --Hope-- - 15 years ago

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Mandy

@mandy0310

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Posted: 15 years ago

#82

I don't understand what more Manav should do, he has felt horrible for the way he treated his mother, he apologized to her and wants to do right by her but why should that include him having to give up on his marriage? Why should he feel forced to choose his mother over his wife, why can't he have both? Savita is making it impossible for him to be a part of her life without eliminating Archana in the process

I know Archana's family has rightfully been criticized over their treatment of Manav but in the end Archana's parents chose her happiness over their own. They accepted Manav for her, and have given him a chance the same cannot be said for Savita. If she doesn't want to accept Archana fine don't do it, but stop having Manav feel he has to choose and guilt tripping him by saying he does not love you.

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karsri

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Posted: 15 years ago

#83

Originally posted by: bollywoodcrazed
I don't understand what more Manav should do, he has felt horrible for the way he treated his mother, he apologized to her and wants to do right by her but why should that include him having to give up on his marriage? Why should he feel forced to choose his mother over his wife, why can't he have both? Savita is making it impossible for him to be a part of her life without eliminating Archana in the process

I know Archana's family has rightfully been criticized over their treatment of Manav but in the end Archana's parents chose her happiness over their own. They accepted Manav for her, and have given him a chance the same cannot be said for Savita. If she doesn't want to accept Archana fine don't do it, but stop having Manav feel he has to choose and guilt tripping him by saying he does not love you.

very well said. Manav should stop being fool and atleast realise now that his mother is not human being she is evil. He should tell her to go to hell!!
She didn't look sick when she was telling to manav leave your wife and come and stay here.

Edited by karsri - 15 years ago

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 15 years ago

#84

Originally posted by: bollywoodcrazed
I don't understand what more Manav should do, he has felt horrible for the way he treated his mother, he apologized to her and wants to do right by her but why should that include him having to give up on his marriage? Why should he feel forced to choose his mother over his wife, why can't he have both? Savita is making it impossible for him to be a part of her life without eliminating Archana in the process

I know Archana's family has rightfully been criticized over their treatment of Manav but in the end Archana's parents chose her happiness over their own. They accepted Manav for her, and have given him a chance the same cannot be said for Savita. If she doesn't want to accept Archana fine don't do it, but stop having Manav feel he has to choose and guilt tripping him by saying he does not love you.

So Manav SHOULDN"T choose PERIOD Mandy . He should stay at his kholi and NOT come here AT ALL . Thats exactly what she said . Anyways he hardly CARES for her nowdays . Even today he rushed to help a THIRD person before rushing to see his mom . She gave him the condition so he wud walk away once and for all and NOT be a hypocrite and stand there professing LOVE when in reality he had to be dragged down to even do his BASIC DUTY .

Now its UPTO him NOT To listen . Be a MAN and DONT listen . And if Archana FORCES him to listen ..............like those nonsensical MAHAAN stunts she pulled with Shravani ..............then its purely Archanas problem . Just coz someone gives u conditions u dont have to listen to them AT ALL .

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bhallarox

@bhallarox

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Posted: 15 years ago

#85

]Last time Archana came and she was cleaning up the mess o n the floor , savita could not even tolerate that .She threw her out .....

She accused Archana of trying to take over her home ....

The day Archan and manav got married , manav told his mother firmly that Archana will stay there only then savita said , if that happens , I will leave ....she is terribly stubborn as all of you can see..Just to prove a point to her son , she went to jail .....

Just to prove a point she will have no hesitation in becoming homeless and go out on her own ....

Manav is in huge trouble because he does loves his mother a lot but he cannot leave his wife like this .

Tanyaz i get where you are coming from but this is manav"s fault too because he can not leave his mom like this although Savita was wrong too by being stubbornness but Manav is not any less stubborn he will leave his mom for his wife i understand wife is a responsibility but you should never forget the person who raised you fed you bathed you gave birth to you Archana came in his life one year ago and savita ever since he was born but yes savita should not have shown stubbornness tanyaz she was not helping the matter i mean manav did ask for forgiveness so on savita part she should forgive him and invite him first (then archana when she feels like it)

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Tanyaz

@Tanyaz

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Posted: 15 years ago

#86

Kool, If Manav comes and tells Archana ....' my mother doesn't love me and the only way I can win her love back is by leaving you .. that is not fair at all...

I wish he had not told her this and had taken care of his mother in his own way ...

Obvioussly this is telling Archana that indirectly she has come between mother and son and I think this will make her feel guilty ..You know she would do anything to make him happy ...
Kool , Manav never does anything on his own ...he always makes it looks like it is Archana's decision where it is always his wishes that are being followed ..

I would definitely blame Archana for being stupid and always foolishly trying to keep him happy but if this happened again then I will feel very very bad for her .....

Edited by Tanyaz - 15 years ago

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Tanyaz

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Posted: 15 years ago

#87

Originally posted by: bhallarox
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Tanyaz i get where you are coming from but this is manav"s fault too because he can not leave his mom like this although Savita was wrong too by being stubbornness but Manav is not any less stubborn he will leave his mom for his wife i understand wife is a responsibility but you should never forget the person who raised you fed you bathed you gave birth to you Archana came in his life one year ago and savita ever since he was born but yes savita should not have shown stubbornness tanyaz she was not helping the matter i mean manav did ask for forgiveness so on savita part she should forgive him and invite him first (then archana when she feels like it)

I know Bhalla .He has to go and be with savita because she is not well and she needs him very badly .there is a baby in the house and he too needs to be looked after ...

I don't think Manav has a choice right now ..He just has to do what savita is telling him to do .....

And for that he has to leave Archaan ...I have a feeling that his telling Archu ( after hugging her ) was his first step towards preparing her for the eventual thing to do .....

he will look so sad and so miserable that she herself wil l tell him to go .....

the only person he can get away with doing what he wants to do is only Archana .......

It would be very sad ........

Of course they could show Archu getting in the hosue with force bu tthe way savita is right now ...I don't think that will work ..savita will just leave the house and prefer becoming homeless.....than live with Archana taking care of her ....

Edited by Tanyaz - 15 years ago

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 15 years ago

#88

Parents know when their kids are lying to them or being insincere. It is a built in radar that most parents especially mothers have and when we want to find out the truth most parents use the shock and awe approach knowingly or unknowingly - ask a "closed" question - one where the answer can only be a Yes or a No - because if you ask an Open Ended Question - the explanations include excuses which are based on other insincerities or convenient half-truths .
Thats EXACTLY what happened today . He was LYING and she caught him even in that fuddy duddy state . Infact Hope he was being EXTREMELY patronizing . I wish she had smacked him .

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So many days he consistently told her he dOES NOT want her in his life .............to GET LOST . Trying to be politically correct he first laid the onus on HER and said Its U who kicked us out .........quite forgtting how he ran away at last moment without telling ANY elder . His expectations that he and his wife wud be WELCOMED were in itself so unrealistic . Then she ACTUALLY started coming around and was going there etc . He THREW her out in FRONT of Dharmesh . In front of SASURAL . Then said vicious things to her coz she slapped Archana when Archana had slapped Shravni EXACTLY in the same way ............unable to hear the fact that Baby Sachu wud perhaps die . That day he BROKE relations with her . Today he matreialised suddenly at Dads behest .......after deprioritizing her AGAIn ...........this time for a TOTAL stranger called MADHURI . Then he started PATRONIZING her . Naturlly she too gave him hurt in return . When u HURT ...........HURT is what u get .

Now Manav shud do KRUPA on us viewers . He shud STAY at the KHOLI and tell Archana to SHUT UP if she suggests he shud live with his mom .

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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 15 years ago

#89

Originally posted by: Tanyaz
Kool, If Manav comes and tells Archana ....' my mother doesn't love me and the only way I can win her love back is by leaving you .. that is not fair at all...
I wish he had not told her this and had taken care of his mother in his own way ...

Obvioussly this is telling Archana that indirectly she has come between mother and son and I think this will make her feel guilty ..You know she would do anything to make him happy ...
Kool , Manav never does anything on his own ...he always makes it looks like it is Archana's decision where it is always his wishes that are being followed ..

I would definitely blame Archana for being stupid and always foolishly trying to keep him happy but if this happened again then I will feel very very bad for her .....

Tanya ........Manav shud NOT go back period . Now he shud stick to his stand ..........he shud go back ONLY with Archana .

I am not saying this sarcastically AT ALL . I never wanted them divided .Nor do I want Archana to be Savitas slave with Savita being in control .

What I wanted .......always ..........was them to do DUTY effortlessly and set an example . They both failed miserably at it . The moment they married and stayed seperate .........her maaika took over and he completely forgot HIS family .

He started behaving POLITICALLY CORRECT then . U only told me Maa to go ...I never wanted etc . His wife had to remind him he even HAD a mother .It was HUMARI Vaishu and HUMARI Varsha . Humari Vaishu has shown exactly how HUMAARI she is .........she never bothered to even INFORM him before doing a complaint .

This is exactly what happens to people who disregard their real own ........their APNE , and dance after third parties , calling them APNE . Both Manav Archu desrved what they got and will get even more in future .

With his stupid strategy he pushed his mom in depression . Archnas fault is only this much .......she sensed Savitas problem and actually had other opinions about handling it ..........see the scene where Manav asked her and Vaishu what I shud do with mom .........Archna had been silent for a long time .She did not agree with Vaishu or Manav AT ALL . But Archanas problem always was and is that she ALWAYS opted to have HIS good opinion above EVERYTHING ELSE . As a wife she chose to side with him although he was WRONG .

Today Savita has SUNK in depression and really doesnt care if he comes or no . If in her depressive state she is giving him atrocious conditions .........to drive him away or otherwise ...........they shud be FIRMLY IGNORED .

If He LISTENS to Archna now and goes back Archna will be ONCE MORE playing with her marraige .She has already done it once for Shravani . Its WRONG to play with marraige and sacrifice it for OTHERS .

So If Archu suggests it ..........she is WRONG .If he listens .........He too is WRONG .

Leave Savita ALONE . Its the only way now . Let KISMET take its course .

Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 15 years ago

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viram

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Posted: 15 years ago

#90

!!Thanks for the commentary Kools. Seriously miss the humour now a days.

The show is just plain disgusting and depressing. WHy do they want to show negativity all the time. ?

What is going to be the result ?

Just wait and watch. Archu will decide to stay away from Manav for the sake of Savita. She will ask him to give him a kasam. Manav will move in with the Ds. HE will live in the true zombie style. Meanwile they might show Archu pregnant. (At least here if they want , the CVs can show some positivity by making savita better and shower her love on Archu now that she is preg. I wonder if they will show this.) How long does it take for anyone to graduate.Still waiting for Vandu's graduation ceremony.

Bhavna wants a Potha and not Pothi. !! Gender bias or is she scared that if it is a pothi it might turn out like Varsha. 😆😆!!.

Looks like there are no Gynaecs in Bombay??. Why haven't Varsha and Satish seen a doctor?

This show is so unrealistic at times ...most of the times. Wouldn't anyone ask for a second opinion when she is told she cant conceive ??

where is Batat??? I miss you re.!! Pl come back . Thanks to ur absence , kools doesnt make funny comments anymore.

(Suppose Batats comes home from Amrika with a Gori?? We can bring the orange shorts again into the lime light.)😛😉😉