Hope's Take 5 - December 3, 2010

Hope's Take 5

The epi started off very nice for me. Sulo and Manohar scenes were good.

I was watching the epi and what I really appreciated was that at some point of time I agreed and disagreed with the same characters. It is difficult to say any particular character was right or wrong because everyone's dialogues was based on their own perspective as a child, parent, spouse, in-law, etc. It's tough to agree with people when their opinions generally differ from your own but it is difficult to see the reason why they do differ so.

Ok as promised let's get down some thoughts

1. Sulo - Everything Sulo told Manav was valid. Today I did not even mind the time or the tone. I would be very concerned if I found my child willingly living in some hell hole with no proper shelter, food or support. Totally valid. In fact, even though Archu got upset with her mom I think I support Sulo in her comments to Manav. Sulo's first job is being Archu's mother. Her only relationship to Manav is through Archu. Yes, there should be goodwill because of all the favours Manav has performed in the past but there is an undeniable baggage for both Ks and Ds that accompanies the Archana-Manav relationship. When people are stressed and afraid (like Sulo is) they do not remember the goodwill, they tend to only recall the bad moments. It is natural thing to do and it only compounds our fears and anxieties. I am very glad she stayed to take care of her daughter. I am a big believer in tough love but tough love only works when the person you want to try it on is alive and able to sense the tough love. This was not the time and place for tough love in my opinion but the place just for motherly intervention. Archu may love Manav and support him in his philanthropic ways but Sulo does not need to. In fact she is like the Opposition Party in politics. She has to question the ruling head's capacity to manage the situation. It's the much needed reality check and its her role in the larger scheme of things, especially when Cabinet Ministers like Archu are silent or supportive out of love and loyalty. Hai na?

2. Manohar - When did Manohar get so practical and vocal? I was really worried when manohar stayed up all night and then had to deal with that drunk. Here is a man recovering from a heart attack. He needs rest and zero stress. His wife and children are not helping. I was actually pleasantly surprised when I saw him being firm with the drunk. Three cheers from Manohar. Generally speaking, I would agree with Manohar that you do not cross a bridge until you get to it but I think that did not apply to Sulo's question to Manav that what if we not here tonight to help out how would you balance the responsibility of family vs. wife. Sulo has crossed that bridge and she is asking the question because she knows there is another similar bridge coming shortly and the captain of this ship is totally unprepared.

3. Manav - Really needs to stop overextending. Pair utna hi phelao jitna tumhari chaddar ho. Isn't that the age old saying guys? Manav has repeatedly made offers that he is not in a capacity to fulfil. While he has always done this in a compassionate sense, it leaves a lot of collateral damage behind. I understand why he did it but he needs to stop reacting. He is like a wildhorse who keeps getting distracted by things and running off in different directions, someone needs to put blinders on him so that he is focused on the path. Even today, his first priority was to get Archana to a doctor, but the minute he heard about what his mom said and did, he wanted to drop the doctor's visit and rush to fight. And with the blinders can someone please scotch tape or staple his mouth shut so he does not give anymore vachans. The man belongs in a fortune cookie company or something.

Oh Manav Manav. Take a Pill. Your not superman honey. Confronting your mother can always happen, first attend to immediate priorities. Also think who might be able to help and start asking for some.

4. Archana - Seriously, I don't know what to say about this girl. Ok Archana - stop being a cheerleader on Team Manav. It is your ardent support of his philanthropic follies that keeps him going. When the doc expressed concern at Archu having to do all the housework, I almost fell down laughing. I was like they get food from out, the house is dusty as ever so seriously the only she is doing is getting water. Then he said its not good for pregnancy and all I wanted to say is "Sir these two are virgins, no fears there. Is it at least safe for having sex? Because these two self pitying morons need a serious romp in the sack before the drunk comes back."

5. The K family including Manjusha - ok I don't know what to say here. It's not black and white. Their concern for their mom is legitimate. Their frustration with the never-ending saga is also understandable.

Vaishali is a very immature girl - she never had to take a job, was pampered as the youngest sibling, married a rich man who she chose and had the good fortune of getting family's support for, is very impressionable and has never seen the world through the eyes of a struggling adult. For this girl to have even an ounce of understanding of events happening around her is very difficult. I think poetic justice will be coming soon to this one. The Dharmesh -Jaywant track will see to that.

Varsha has always been a self-absorbed person. This makes her a fighter and I remember when that very fighter nature was revelled on this forum. Varsha of all people should be the most sympathetic towards ArMan's plight because of the number of times that they helped her when she screwed up. Archana has admittedly committed some foolish mistakes with Manav and even Vinod but Varsha has made mistakes with Satish, Bhavana, her parents, her inlaws, her unborn baby and even Ashwin. The List goes on. I think it is our knowledge of all of this that makes us very angry when we hear her being so detached and unsympathetic. Varsha's saving grace is her husband who has forgiven so many of her mistakes and forced others to do the same. Then again, Varsha rejected motherhood so I do not expect her to understand the unbreakable, ever present and undeniable bond between mother and child (age being no bar)

Vinod is very emotional for a man. He flips and flops and the flips again. This character lost credibility for me a long time back. Though I would sincerely like Manohar to give him a reminder of the 3 lac loan that evil Manav😈 took to save his butt at the eleventh hour and refused to let him pay off so that he could buy his trophy wife a comfortable flat. Enough said.

Manjusha - Cvs, can we please have her live in a basti like her mother. Maybe her mother can fall sick and she is forced to go live in Ajit's basti to take care of her for a month?? Let Vandu go to college and make Manjusha get the water in the morning, prepare food etc. Her husband and her kids can stay with Sulo so no fears there. I have to feel bad for Manjusha - of course she was worried, with Sulo gone who will give her morning tea, tiffin, get the kids ready etc.? Oh it's so tough these days without a maid. The genuine concern for Sulo's midnight safety is just killing me Manjusha.

My thoughts same to same di......😃

Hi Hope!

Agree with you on everything.

I think poetic justice will be coming soon. My predictions:
1.) Dharmesh will becum bhikhari thanks to Jay, while Satish will cleverly separate himself from the company beforehand.

2.) Varsha will find out that she cannot conceive and will grieve and cry.

3.) Manav-Archu after their K yatra will set up a house and stuff and Manav will grow rich and I'm having this feeling that Sulo and Mano will be kicked out soon from the house by Manju and it will be Manav who will be saving them and making them stay in his house- and then they will remember and cry how badly they treated Manav when he was at their house.

Niki I like your list 😆 ... However I think Jay will start by ruining vinod first ... I am still trying to figure out the significance of him recommending vinod for a job...

yup , I also think that will happen .Vinod is the main bread winner of the family and this family will let Manav come and live with them , I don't think Jaywant will be very happy about this development and he will take his grouse out by creating trouble for Vinod's career .

Wow Hope , you are on a roll and we all are loving it .Excellent analysis again today ..

Originally posted by: nikitagmc

Hi Hope!

Agree with you on everything.

I think poetic justice will be coming soon. My predictions:
1.) Dharmesh will becum bhikhari thanks to Jay, while Satish will cleverly separate himself from the company beforehand.

2.) Varsha will find out that she cannot conceive and will grieve and cry.

3.) Manav-Archu after their K yatra will set up a house and stuff and Manav will grow rich and I'm having this feeling that Sulo and Mano will be kicked out soon from the house by Manju and it will be Manav who will be saving them and making them stay in his house- and then they will remember and cry how badly they treated Manav when he was at their house.

Superb analysis Hope 😛

Just want to add a bit:

I want Manjusha to go to jail and the police to hit her so hard that we will never have to see her evil grin and eye rolling ever again. The police didn't have any qualms hitting Savita so there shouldn't be any problem in bashing Manju.

Manju Jail Track:-

Isn't Manju out on bail for filing a false police report which caused Sachin's death ? Think its about time the police charge her or do something about it.

If not for Sachu's case, show Manjusha stealing money from her company to settle her debts, she wanted Archu to work for free to settle her loan so show her doing something drastic to repay the loan since Archu is no longer doing it for her.

If not jail, something equally as bad has to happen to Manjusha, she shouldn't be allowed to get away with everything she did/is doing. She is the root of all evil in the show.

Liked ur comments Hope.

Sulochana was being a mother. That is enough justification for her stay at Archu's.

I have not seen the scene with K siblings and their outburst but that reminded me of something. I m not supporting their act but I can somewhat understand their situation. Last year I sort of blasted at my sister, my mom, and then my jiju (😆). They both were having so many problems and my jiju was like my parents bak home r so sick and all bcoz of the stress etc. I was like ur parents?? I blasted at my sister (even though most of the fault was my jiju's) I told her stop acting like a kid and take full responsibility of all ur actions and promises u made in the past out of blind love (for my jiju obviously). I blasted at my jiju that its not just his parents who r under stress. Guess what my mom was taken in an ambulance bcoz of u two!! My studies r affected bcoz of the constant stress u guys give me and my parents. So if u BOTH want to kill ur families with stress then let us know (I literally said that). And I told my mom to stop saying anything bcoz whatever she says is understood differently by jiju and his family and they say 'app apni beti ka ghar barbaad ker rahi ho' so stop saying ANYTHING (and trust me she didnt say much). I was just soooooo angry and stressed that day. Not bcoz of the issue that was going on, but bcoz of the never ending issues arising every weekend bcoz of my sister and jiju. It was just not ending! I was tried. I was tired to see my mom so stressed and literally fainting almost everyday! I just didnt care at that time who was right or who was wrong. I just wanted it to stop!

Obviously my jiju is not like Manav (Manav is better than him😆) but my point is sometimes there comes a point where u dont care who is right or wrong, u just want the constant fights and tamashas to stop.