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Posted: 15 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: umayal

I agree. I will totally understand if her family throws her out , Maybe they should ..

After this Manav's going to jail , Archana is in a very depressed / hyper / rebellious frame of mind . She just cannot believe it that this could happen to manav . And to know that her own fiance got her to sign a document to put a seal on Manav's fate forever ....and now the worst possible thing , that he made Manav sign a paper using Archana ..
She has totally lost it now ..
I think it is only after Manav comes out of jail will she start thinking as to what is happening ...
Right now the girl is only focussed on getting him out . I just hope Satish steps in to help or else she will go even more crazy ..this is a very big thing for her to handle ..
I was very happy with the way rasika advised her ...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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See it is simple . For her so called mistake of leaving Manav after he was framed she is sTILL trying to make amends . This is her blood family and she REALLY has hurt them bad . TWo attacks .to two parents and she is just not bothered they will die , she is like a crazed woman now . She shud work on the relationship by making amends and put in same effort she put with mAnav
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Posted: 15 years ago
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She will Kool. I am sure she will . But first she has to get him out .Till he is out she will not think straight .The way she is acting , she can very well run in a truck or in front of a car or something right now ...
There is only one day left for manav's court hearing .He is trapped in a firewall from everywhere. Archana's fiance has got him totally tarpped ...He used Archana name and Manav's weakness for Archu to trap Manav in this horrific mess ..
She has to get him out of this ...
Once he is out , then I am sure she will start thinking of how much she has hurt her people ..
Whatever punishment they have for her , she will just have to go through it ..Even if it is to marry jaywant and act as if manav does not exist ...if they say this , she will have to do it..
But for now ....she has to get him out ...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Kool, no matter how frustrating , this is how she is going to be till he comes out ...😆
She is pursuing this goal with whatever she has ....
Once he is out and free , she will change her attitude and will do whatever she can do to make her family happy .Of course if they loose patience and throw her out then she has to bear that also ....
It's interesting , let's see how the story unfolds ...
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Posted: 15 years ago
#75
Thanks for the commentary Kools!

Really liked the signature part. I liked the geeta part too, but I think when they showed geeta in the serial, it was just to justify why Archu was going against her family, not how she was doing it. Also, I am 99% sure that the writers have not read geeta and thought about it as deeply as you have😆.

I wont defend Archu today since on Monday she is going to make me eat my words by saying she is doing all this for her 'pavitra rishta' , so my reaction is 'whatever'. I do want to say something about innocence of the management. Yesterday, I looked up corporate law about faulty machinery (pls dont think I am 🤪mad, I just was getting bored) Whatever has happened in PR, the company is actually guilty of negligence for not putting a guard at the site , at least according to US federal law. Outside-of-office hours arguments also dont hold since we see Dharmu instructing workers to go the plant to do some work. So unless they can prove the workers were stealing, they are liable to pay compensation to the families of the dead workers but there is no mention of jail time anywhere for the management. Manav, though, can face jail time since he is being charged of theft. Basically, the entire track is senseless because Dharmu was anyway wiling to pay compensation.

I like your humorous commentary more since it gives me more entertainment than this wretched serial . Frankly, I watch this for Sushant and Ankita and your commentary, Hope's ramblings and of course chatting on this forum keeps me hooked. Otherwise, this just a TV soap which is totally driven by TRPs.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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tanyadi:

he is innocent na?

I agree.

her intentions are good.

I agree.

She is doing it with full knowledge that upon his return status quo will continue irrespective of whether she remarries or not. i.e. she is basically doing shravani's job. shravani should be the one fighting for his life. if she wants to show her support she should show it through his family.

while I understand her feelings towards manav and her need to see him happy and safe, I think the long term impact this will have on her existence i.e. without familial support has not occurred to her. her family has always been there irrespective of her decisions and I think she is taking their support in future for granted.

tanyadi, does she not appear crazed to you? does she seem rationale? I don't understand what the CVs are doing to their favourite character.

honestly if I knew someone like Archu my emotions would first be sympathy then caution then wariness. the girl looks ike she is on the edge of the precipice and she is about ready to take a leap into total oblivion.

have they totally done away with the character Tarun?


Anu:

corporate liability and workplace safety laws in North America are way way more stringent than in India. this is because Indian does not have as strong a labour lobby or as structured an enforcement system as the west or even EU for that matter.

by Indian standards, the management's actions were reasonable and sufficient I believe.

The fact of the matter is that Dharmesh Freaked. that is what happened. nobody would have actually arrested him. All he needed was a strong corporate lawyer and a very good investigator to find out what happened. he just freaked. his actions were those of a terrified man. I was sad to see what he ended up doing becasue in the face of his fears, his practicality which I have always admired flew right out the window and Jay played on his fears for his own purposes.

Anyways, that's my take.

hope

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hey Hope 🤗long time..how are you?

See that's what I thought too, that labor laws in India must be less stringent. But we see the a lawyer of all people and a police-officer straight away saying that if they dont frame manav then they are in for a lot of trouble and jail-time. Thats where the writers suck. One day they show the protagonist justifying her actions by quoting geeta and just two days later she says she is doing it for her 'pavitra rishta'; just for sensationalism, they make people slap others just like that and for a track which is going to be at least 2-3 months old, they dont even do proper homework.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: tv_madness

Hey Hope 🤗long time..how are you?

See that's what I thought too, that labor laws in India must be less stringent. But we see the a lawyer of all people and a police-officer straight away saying that if they dont frame manav then they are in for a lot of trouble and jail-time. Thats where the writers suck. One day they show the protagonist justifying her actions by quoting geeta and just two days later she says she is doing it for her 'pavitra rishta'; just for sensationalism, they make people slap others just like that and for a track which is going to be at least 2-3 months old, they dont even do proper homework.

exactly . If they show that she is doing this for the Geeta or for what is right then it will not look romantic na , no TRPs ....this show is running on the romance of Manav and Archana so they have to keep bringing in the pavitra rishta and th romance bit in it as well but in between they also balance it with the fair thing to do ...when she was telling her mother what a good honest worker manav is etc etc .....
This is a totally TRP driven show ....
Script is sometimes changed two days before ...They themselves don't remember what they show ....
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I think it is doing well again ...
I checked the TRPs . It is above 5 again ...This family feud has been good for the show ........
Right now in the daily soaps , it is only next to Na Jana Is Des Laddo ..
Even Pratigya has gone down ...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: tv_madness

Hey Hope 🤗long time..how are you?

See that's what I thought too, that labor laws in India must be less stringent. But we see the a lawyer of all people and a police-officer straight away saying that if they dont frame manav then they are in for a lot of trouble and jail-time. Thats where the writers suck. One day they show the protagonist justifying her actions by quoting geeta and just two days later she says she is doing it for her 'pavitra rishta'; just for sensationalism, they make people slap others just like that and for a track which is going to be at least 2-3 months old, they dont even do proper homework.



hey anu,

right back at you hon🤗

have not come on line in a long long time.

re his lawyers advice. lawyers and doctors in India are a dime a dozen. the lawyers that you have on retainer are usually mediocre in expertise (especially when we are talking about a small business like Dharmesh's - only multinationals can afford the really good lawyers on retainers). the really good and reputable lawyers go by cases rather than regular clients. A medicore lawyer will always give you mediocre advice.

you know anu, the slap just never sat right with me.

somebody on one of the earlier threads said, slapping is common in India and I disagree.

corporal punishment of children by parents and teachers for discipline, ettiquette and education is common in India. Slapping of Adults and family members is not common and what's more it is not done.

I agree that the slap was for sensational reasons but I found her bhasshan to rasika (at the ghungroo incident) was more entertaining than her slap to dharmesh.

some thoughts re the slap came in my mind.

let us assume that the worker being framed is not manav:

a) would she still slap dharmesh (in a fit of hysteria and emotional meltdown) for trying to frame an innocent?

b) would she lay an emotional guilt trip on Satish?

c) would she be willing to send her culprit SILs to prison with such vehemence and single minded purpose?

Would the geeta reading still have the same meaning for her? or would she convince her SILs to save the man themselves while preserving their hides?

When I try to answer all the above questions, I cannot justify her incensed rage, her outcry and rash reaction. not even in the name of sensationalism.

yes in their desire to gain ArMan sympathy they have just fed the audience a very sour treat

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