Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000
Same to u nikita , your posts r very well expressed and very intelligent . Although i diffred with u on Manav , I cud fully understand what u were always trying to say . It was right with the given context too ..........my primary grouse against him was coz he devalued his dad who was a gem of a human being and listened to SAvita . I hope one day in the serial he is pulled up for this .
Haha... I thought we were over with the Manav debate.. but here we go again.
The current situation has made it such that Manav isn't listening to his dad, he is doing what he thinks is right for evryone, in fact this Archu matter is the only time he has stood up against his dad.
But I will never agree that Manav devalued his dad. He knows his father and loves him as he is.
Rewind back to the previous episodes of Pavitra Rishta. Damodar's entry in the serial came with his arrest for stealing something and Manav begging in jail to the police inspector to free him. When they returned home, Savita tries to thrash up his Dad, and he saves him.
In fact, he has always stopped Savita from making fun of or ridiculing his Dad. He shouted so much at Archana for putting them in jail and dishonoring the family.... but he never shouted at his dad that because of you , the family name is going to shreds... you were in jail for theft today... the reason? He understood his dad's depressed, alcoholic condition... so instead of saying all this he encourages his Dad to get work in the theatre. For this, he even convinces the director that if my dad is asking for more money.. give it to him... I will return you the money at the end of the day otherwise my dad will be depressed and drink... he doesn't say to his dad that baba you don't have that value that you had in former days, so agree to whatever he is giving...so basically to fulfill his father's wish of working at a high rate and boost his confidence that he is still in demand Manav quietly does overtime in the garage.
On the two biggest days of his life, his dad got drunk... fully aware of the importance of those days in his sons life- first, when he had to go see Archana... second on his son's wedding. What happened as a result we all know. Sulochana was horrified that Manav's baba was a drunkard and a thief and Manav had to go to jail often to free him. But later when Kaka blasted everyone, Manav quietly said let the matter rest, all this happened bcos of me since I'm not a mechanical engineer... even at that extreme low point of his life (his dream day had turned into his worst nightmare). he did not blame his dad that see.. since you could not provide for the family... became weak.. resorted to drinking instead of focussing on work and family.... today what all I had to go through... kam se kam aaj to aap na peete baba... not even in an emotional moment does he say it.
Today if his dad is stable, it is because of his son. Because of his inability to fulfill his duties, his family suffered fom poverty until Manav started working, Savita hates him and taunts him day and night (especially in the early episodes of the serial and sometimes even now and we all know the guilt trips she is capable of giving), his son's marriage almost broke due to his reputation of a drunkard and a thief. Anyone else would have died out of guilt (There was a scene when he himself confesses all this to Manav that he has done nothing for his family and instead ruined everyone's lives)
After all these years, even though knowing that Savita has a right to be angry with him since he couldn't provide the basic necessities for his family.. if Damodar can still stand bravely up to her and tick her off.. it is because Manav has always supported and defended him in front of his Aai, given him strength that no matter what she says.. I know you always tried your best... you don't need to feel inferior or scared of her. Was it easy for Manav to stand up to Savita knowing that whatever she says about his Dad.. not being responsible, not providing for family etc... at the end of the day, there is no strong defence, and all this is very much true?
If Damodar is doing well today (it was shown that he is nominated for some theatre award) it is because Manav had faith in his abilities as an actor. He helped his father through difficult times always.
The relationship between Manav and his father is indeed beautiful.... a role reversal of sorts. Manav became Damodar's father at an age when boys are obsessed with cricket and girlfriends and bikes (and in case of boys like Manav... how to crack entrance exams of top colleges) He protected his Dad from his Mom's and society's accuses, provided for the family, ensured that everyone got everything they needed, helped his Dad find work, boosted up his spirits, and most importantly, gave his dad the respect he truly deserves saying no matter what.. you are my dad and I admire you for your fighting spirit, it is this spirit which motivates me to go to work every morning and face the struggles of life (that was such a nice scene and such a nice dialogue). He brought forward his Dad's beauty of character in front of everyone's eyes so today everyone in his family and the chawl respects his Dad.
Today Manav has taken a decision to go against his Dad... doesn't want to listen to him... that too not for the sake of his own ego or any other reason but for others happiness... for the sake of responsibility... Savita didn't tell him to get married to Shravani. Even where the jail complaint was concerned... he had reasons to believe Archana could do it. He didn't suspect her cos of Savita.
(we also have to remember that Manav is nowhere in his own priority list.. he will get married to shrvani and everyone will be happy..he wants archana to hate him, move on in life and stay happy... while he succumbs to an unhappy compromise with Shravani and dies a little everyday)
I fully understand why Damodar still loves and respects him, even though he knows Manav is doing injustice to his daughter Archana and not listening to him. He understands that for the first time in his life, his son is making a grave mistake.
And keeping in mind the respect and support his son has given him in all these years, he wants to help his son rectify his mistake in time and not ruin his and Archana's life. And that I feel, is the best way he can discharge his duties of a good father to his wonderful son, cos as Savita likes to say, Damodar may have been a failure in being a responsible father and family man... but the truth is that his son Manav is his true victory and success in life. It overrides any other success or failure in life. Manav is his trophy for the values that he has instilled in his son.
And the reason I am writing all this is that I identify a lot with Damodar (except the drinking part)😆... i think that both of us think along the same wavelength and understand Manav in the same way. And both of us agree that he is making a big mistake and want him to retrace his steps. Both of us know that Manav can very well stand up against his Aai when he wants too as he has done in the past. But above all both of us know he is a good man who deserves a chance to rectify his mistake and lead life happily.
I want to see a scene in PR where Manav apologizes to his Dad for not listening to him and his Dad says these same things that I said above.
Edited by nikitagmc - 15 years ago
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