Degrading Woman by PR - Page 3

First of all i wanna thank Koolsadhu when ever i think i should not argue about happenings in serial as it not real its just another show which try to entertain us but ur post and the points u keep force me rise my opnion so thanks for that.
I completely agree with ur points and fore most I have started hate this serial is the way All mothers have been show as villian in this serial which of all hurts me the most because we say mother is such wonderful creation in this world and she is shown in such a bad way which i hate the most.
I hate to say that Sulochana is worst than Savita but u know even thoughi know Sulochana is not as cruel as Savita but the way creatives have projected makes me think she is bad and other hand we have Savita is so cruel to her bahu that she forgets even for min what if that happened to her opwn daughter Vandu why doesn't creatives ever think like and i don't any person who is bad does think like that and even Kaka or baba does not make Savita to realize it..baba stops Savita when she has completely harassed Archu in front of his eye then he makes to correct it and it shows as if he is more concern which is disgusting.
Manju i don't think she can never be mother to child i don't think i wanna talk about and Rasika she is another who is being so bad that it irritates me..intially i thought in this serial we one good mother Bhavana tayi who think good about every one and her son but no now we suddenly see her going against her son which is idiotic thing to happen in this show.
Sharavani i don't know what were creatives proving us to show by her charater she is neiher independent in her thinking in spite of being educated and that she is shown as a social worker before who helps the old people and illiterates by teaching them in night but now she sees a women is being tortured in front of eyes and she gives a dumb expression as if she is not related to the family only what to creatives that educated are dumb to accept this.. 😡 noooooo..
I think only character in this serial which is quiet believable is Varsha because she is one who is thinker and reliazes her mistake and corrects by not repeating it again i hope her character is not spoiled by Archu and Manav.
It's so bad to see where we every lead protagonists scarifies her own happiness to some stupid thing happening in her family i see this in almost all the serials we are talking that men and women need equal rights in our country and we support education to girls so that even girls can dependent but we see serials being made fun women by showing how much she is suffering in soceity in many ways which is very hurting.i know we should make aware to people that women are being harassed like this in society this is a limit of showing it and i hope atleast from now on we see kind of serial where women is shown in good way where see in independent and takes decision for her happiness in a positive manner.

I feel like shouting at Archana everytime she trembles in front of Savita .

nishr

Thanks for saying that my posts make you re think about issues ......i appreciate it .

Good recap about the mothers but i wud request you to look at Sulochana if you can from the perspective of a girl's mother in a simple traditional society .

As nikita very rightly pointed out , a man does NOT leave his home and family to go and live with a girl ..........his adjustment , from day one in the so called marraige is not even one fourth of what the girl goes through .

Since it is the girl who leaves her blood family and goes to live in a totally strange house and accept totally strange people as her own , the responsibility of seeing that this stay is every bit comfortable for the girl comes on the girl's parents .......in this case , Sulochana and Manohar .

They first ensure that the girl does not lack food or clothing , the basics , just as she was accustomed to in their house , that same standard of living she continues with it as adjusting even in that will really make this adjustment tough . And hence the insistence on a boy with the same status . It is not greed or selfishness at all , it is being practical , ratonal and imminently sensible by falling back on your experience .

Now to Sulochana's credit ..........she actually adjusted on the financial factor and sent her daughter to live in a standard of living that was below them . Why ? Because she was told , the boy was good .

Sulochana never was pissed off about the poverty . Not once do we we see her calling the Deshmukhs bhikaari . Yes , Savita is ulta calling Archana bhikaari..........that speaks a lot for her level and mentality . We never see Sulochana criticizing the poverty of the Deshmukhs in Archu's absence .

What pissed her off were the lies that Savita told right in the beginning of the marraige .........if at all trust is expected in an arranged marraige , the foundation of that trust is laid in the talks between the two families where everything is disclosed .......like the guys income , his degrees , his character , his future goals . Savita broke this very foundation although Manav later tried to rectify it .

Inspite of that , sulochana came around and actually decided to give that marraige a chance . She sent her daughter there and not once did she influence her like Rasika does in a negative way . She never made enquiries about the standard of living , or other aspects .........she just let them be .

But in those 15 days she saw a very ugly side of the boy's mother .........greed for money , threats to harm her daughter if the money wasnt given and a total inactivity or unawareness on the boy's part of his mother's deeds . Still she went on giving that marraige a chance . But her worst fears had come true . The boy's mother was uncontrollable and both.........the son in law and her own daughter , who was unlike Varsha , were incapable of controlling her or stopping her .

Her patience snapped when photographhs of the boy with prostitutes were circulated in public , and the police vouched that the boy was biling pimps out . She had tolerated everything , for the sole reason that the ' boy was good ' . When even that fact was belied , she snapped and slapped Manav .

Today she is hated for that action . But Sulochana never insulted Manav or tried to insult Manav like Rasika subtly sets out to insult Vinod or control him . The slap was more a reaction of horror about her daughter's safety . Sukochana never made Manav sit down in front of her and shame him by telling him of hos mother's dowry demands . Had she done that , wud Manav have ever been able to hold his head up ?

She never even went to Manav's garage and tell him about the character assasination of Archu that Savita was doing by standing on road , or Satishs office , and neither did she use her influence with Satish to stop him from giving a loan to that terrible family or Manav .

That was because truly speaking Sulochana did not hate Manav as much as she feared Savita . And was she so wrong?

What wud Savita have done if pictures of Vandus husband with prostitutes wud have been shown to her ? She wud have caught her damaad's collar and sat on his chest demanding an explanation . What wud Rasika have done ? Vinod is so decent yet she attempts to demand explanations about Manju's happiness . So wud have Bhavna if she had a daughter . What does Girish do ? He is extremely demanding about Shravnis happiness .

So why this unreasonable hate about Sulochana by viewers ?

It is the mentality , nothing else . The mentality of viewers moulded by serials and films that tell us that a girl's mother has no right to be concerned about her happiness , or ask questions or demand explanations from her son in law about it. It is sacrilege ! Sulochna has comitted sacrilege by taking her daughter home , demanding explanations ........she shud have let her daughter continue staying there and NOT DEMANDED EXPLANATIONS .

Sulochana never even filed for divorce , SAvita did , and Sulochana never even taught her daughter to demand alimony .

Thats where she went wrong . Had she taught her daughter that , today this rut that Manav keeps repeating about Shravani being his responsibility ...........his eyes wud have opened as if an electric shock was given to him . He wud have realised that Archana , his legal wife was his social and legaL RESPONSIBILITY .........AND THAT ALL OTHER THINGS CAME LATER , THAT FIRST AND FOREMOST HE HAD TO SHOW THIS AWARENESS BY GIVING ARCHANA HALF OF HIS FINANCES , HOWEVER MEAGRE THEY MAY BE . RESPONSIBILITY BEGINS THERE .Ultimately my dear what Sulochana is truly guilty of is accurate foresightedness .........that just the boy being good is never enough , the boys mom matters too if the boy is not gonna live seperate . And by being foresighted , Sulochana committed sacrilege in the eyes of viewers .




W

very very well said .

So much has already been discussed I dunno wat more to add but just an observation.....if any one is looking fr sense or logic in T.V. serials then God help .......... BT shows r full of nonsensical drama where respecting the audience's sensibility is a long lost concept.....Most of Ekta's shows start refreshingly well thats more like a hook factor to gain trps nd capture a junk of viewers....nd once u r hooked then u r at her mercy ..... degradation of women is just the tip of the ice berg physical abuse, infidelity, bigamy, rape, illegitimate children to name a few r the staple of Ekta's factory. But why blame Ekta alone all the shows r identical.....nd they thrive by creating this perception that viewers want to see these crap....so if u r looking for sense, logic nd respect of human character then dnt even watch these serials.

Originally posted by: vishwap

All these days we accused Manohar and Vinod of being wimps standing and watching and doing nothing. At least they did nothing. They did not actively collaborate in the wrong-doing happening in front of their eyes. Manav collaborates in the worst kind of human abuse and then has the gall to defend himself pathetically and professing his love. Is this the way one loves? by inflicting more pain? And what does he mean he is doing it for Archu's happiness ? I am sure there are much better ways of doing this. By asking everyone to just shup up, live the three months through without any further drama. But of course, that would be too simple.What about the emotional scars he is giving herwith the active connivance with Saint Savita. She will need active psychiatric counselling to come out of this and be normal. What future happiness is he talking about? So this is the price that Archana is to pay for "Deserting " manav. What price did he or Savita pay for the lies and emotional abuse before that?
Yes this serial degrades women.

vishwap

I think you said it . The most disgusting part is when he , after committing to Shravani , mutely letting his mother abuse Archu by more than half the time walking away and for the other half merely staring dumbly , committing legal bigamy by not even waiting for three months till the divorce comes through only to placate his nagging mom and Giirish who demands explanations for Shravani's happiness , actually keeps telling Tarun that he 'loves' Archana .

How unfair can this chauvinistic attitude be to both women.........Archana and Shravani ? Dont they deserve better and doesnt Manav join the ranks of Ashwin and Ajit ? Ashwin was kissing his wife and professing love to Varsha and Ajit was playing double game with his fiancee . This kind of attitude by any man is an insult to a woman .........even Shravani desrves better .

unbelievably in smaller cities in India this mentality does exist..tht a bahu should always give sacrafice (her feelings should not matter-because in the end her saas is her FAMILY and she is doing this for them)..its a sick mentality..i believe in..give respect get respect..but the mentality of typical Indians is saas can say or do whtever but bahu has to give respect and the minute she talks back oh shes the worst one in the world and if the husband stands up for his wife..he is known as joru ka ghulam or the wife is accused of taking teh son away from his mother...

hoenstly i feel sorry for the guys in this situation cuz they r stuck in the middle....

my MIL loves archanas character..my husband and I obviously state what we think which most of you do that basically she should stand up and not take this stuff..and my MIL got soooo offensive 😆😆 and of course disagreed with us and shes like no archan tho bahut sau hai and we r like thts y shes suffering in her life and taking all this abuse she should stand up once in awhile for herself and my MIL got angry...

im telling u old women love archanas character cuz thts how they want their bahus to be...yeah in real life some families may not be that drastic as to throw food at the bahus and treat tehm as beggars but the bahu has to AGREE TO EVERYTHING that the saas says and its not about doing things even when it coems to having discussions regarding other people or even politics..the second the bahu disagrees with the saas and states her own opinion the mother in law will be like wht is wrong with u..ur always talking back..hello since when is presenting your own opinion talkign back???

Originally posted by: xxhiyaxx

unbelievably in smaller cities in India this mentality does exist..tht a bahu should always give sacrafice (her feelings should not matter-because in the end her saas is her FAMILY and she is doing this for them)..its a sick mentality..i believe in..give respect get respect..but the mentality of typical Indians is saas can say or do whtever but bahu has to give respect and the minute she talks back oh shes the worst one in the world and if the husband stands up for his wife..he is known as joru ka ghulam or the wife is accused of taking teh son away from his mother...<br><br>hoenstly i feel sorry for the guys in this situation cuz they r stuck in the middle....<br><br>my MIL loves archanas character..my husband and I obviously state what we think which most of you do that basically she should stand up and not take this stuff..and my MIL got soooo offensive 😆😆 and of course disagreed with us and shes like no archan tho bahut sau hai and we r like thts y shes suffering in her life and taking all this abuse she should stand up once in awhile for herself and my MIL got angry...<br><br>im telling u old women love archanas character cuz thts how they want their bahus to be...yeah in real life some families may not be that drastic as to throw food at the bahus and treat tehm as beggars but the bahu has to AGREE TO EVERYTHING that the saas says and its not about doing things even when it coems to having discussions regarding other people or even politics..the second the bahu disagrees with the saas and states her own opinion the mother in law will be like wht is wrong with u..ur always talking back..hello since when is presenting your own opinion talkign back??? <br>

Mother in laws will always love bakris like Archu my dear . Archu is the ideal bakri 80% mother in laws will want . Sad but very true .

About presenting our own opinion regarding as talking back ..........totally agreed . In Hindi serials if bahu expresses her own opinion , she committs sacrilege and maha paap .

Her only action in life shud be to sit and stand according to husband and worship his abusive mom if there is one in the background .

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Mother in laws will always love bakris like Archu my dear . Archu is the ideal bakri 80% mother in laws will want . Sad but very true .

About presenting our own opinion regarding as talking back ..........totally agreed . In Hindi serials if bahu expresses her own opinion , she committs sacrilege and maha paap .

Her only action in life shud be to sit and stand according to husband and worship his abusive mom if there is one in the background .

I totally despise the way women r portrayed as very aptly said by koolsadhu.

gaurimisha

i watch it for the middle class life , and the nearly realistic characters in it instead of the larger than life ones which make me sick . Story also is believable compared to other fantasy ones . CB is a fantasy serial nowadays .

Both Manav Archu look good and r pleasing to the eyes . But for me thats the last criteria. I love stories and that too well presented ones .

Slowly PR is becoming typical . Archu's fall may lead to her incapability to conceive and SAchins child will be only waaris etc ..........i reall dunno why they r messing up script .