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Posted: 15 years ago
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great answers everyone and nikita thanks a ton for such a detailed and lovely analysis . you were spot on of course .

What infuriates me is the attempt of the creatives to redeem Manav's stupid sindoor filling by making him tend to Archana after she falls off the terrace .

Why shud they show Archana even accepting his tending .........doesnt she have any shred of self respect ?She has her loving mother and her sisters , why wud she even need to see this man's face ? This is sick ! What Manav truly needs is a second slap from Sulochana in the hospital itself !

Why the hell is Sulochna shown stuttering in front of Savita and Manav graciously giving permission to her to meet Archana at his home when Girish can storm in and ask Manav to be answerable to him regarding Shravani's care and her decision to abort the baby ? Hey , Archana is living freely there under court orders .............it really isnt Savita or Manv's prerogative to give or not give her food , or to allow or NOT allow her to meet her parents !

Why have they shown Archu peeing in her pants and hurriedly telling her mother to go instead of boldly talking to her ? What mera ghar mer ghar is Savita talking about ..........one complaint from Archu to the judge and Savita will not be in that ghar for the 3 months that Archu lives there but in jail for defying court orders .

Putting sindoor was an act of ethical and moral violation , not to say a legal crime ! Bigamy is a serious issue ! The plain decency wud be to wait till the divorce comes through , but giving in to be answerable to Girish and to plalcate SAvita took away all the manliness from Manav's character . Will it ever be redeemed ?

How come the chawl people who hate Savita have not squealed to the human rights people with an anoymous phone call ?


Why shud Archana be shown to be this foolish to choose inlaws that she barely knew for 15 days over a loving blood family that she knew all her life ? What in the world has that family ever done for her ? Her husband has his feet on the ground........he gives family more importance than her . So where are Archanas brains ?

In todays episode Manav clearly says in his mind Sorry Archana but my family is my priority even more than you ! Now this shud really silence Manav fans who had been saying that lets wait till he actually makes this statement . This statement makes PR a story of responsibility not a love story . In a love story , love gets first priority . The rest comes later . In PR everything has importance except Archana .

The side actor Tarun shone in todays episode . Why dont they show him feeling sorry for Archana , splitting with Manav and marrying her instead ? At least he is a nice guy !

Sulochanas every fear has come true in this serial . And to think people were blasting her for misguiding her daughter and breaking up her marraige ............how unfair can anyone be ? What did she do ? Nothing , except sense from day one that just the boy being good isnt enough in a marraige for her daughter to be happy , his full family , especially his mother counts too ! And for being the only sensible and correct person on this show Sulochana was branded as a villain ........and Savita is still being shown as a victim ! As nikita said , tomorrow she will go and kill Archu under the pretext of Sachin's death !

Manju did only one good thing in this serial and that was explain to dumb Archu that abuse isnt just physical it is also mental . Since it never went in Archu's dumb brain , today the abuse even turned physical . And since Archu herself isnt bothered about her own self respect , others too r just watching it and not caring .

It is a scary message .


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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000



The side actor Tarun shone in todays episode . Why dont they show him feeling sorry for Archana , splitting with Manav and marrying her instead ? At least he is a nice guy !



Spot on my friend . I have been thinking about this all day . Tarun should break all ties with manav and he should just marry Archana . damodar can give the bride away , I am sure he will do it happily . It's that stupid Archana and her love for this cold hearted person . He has so clearly told the viewers , ' I love my family way more than I love Archana , my responsibilty ( Shravani ) is far more important to me than Archan . What love can we ever even think about . It is ridiculous . Manav does not love Archana the way we all thought he did . At least I thought wrong but since a long time I have been saying that please don't go by his words ....Archan means little to this man . What can we say kool ...jab apna hi sika khota hai toh , I am talking about Archana here .She is making a dreadful mistake by not realising how precious her life is , with or without manav . Stupid fool is talking like as if she is now totally worthless . Just because God / Manav commited bigamy with another woman.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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As for my thoughts goes she will never marry any one else.
It would be Manav all the way, love is eternal. The same thing goes well for Manav too. He his doing some strange things but i am sure he won't let her go, at any cost.
Three months would heal all the wounds and Shravani would understand by then, now that she has got a hang of things whats happening around.

The article which was posted which says that Archu would fall from her balcony and Manav would behave well as a daunting husband, would take care of her. I believe that would prove how much he loves her........❤️
Edited by Akashspartan - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Personally I feel the damage to the story has been done. Any attempt to correct it now seems feeble. Look how everyone went hammer and tongs at Manav for not protecting Archu against his Aai's abuse when she came to live at their house the 2nd time. In his defence, the creatives twisted it that he didn't do anything cos he wanted Archu to hate him and show her that he wasn't concerned at all. But did it help? No! By then, Manav lost a lot of his fans. The same thing is going to come up now. The creatives want to show that even though his mind has made up a decision of choosing his responsibility, his heart is clearly not into it. These pent up emotions come up to the surface every now and then when Archu is in danger or mistreated (Archu shivering in the cold, Archu being called a beggar, Archu found missing etc.). Maybe they want to show that he just can't see her in a problem, and so even wants her to hate him so that she can move on in life without him. But finally the bubble of these emotions bursts when he sees Archana in a pool of blood when she has an accident, and so the whole 'Shravani is my responsibility' bhashan goes into the wastepaper basket, responsibility is flung in a corner, he drops Shravani, the same girl whose maang he filled with sindoor, like a hot potato and goes running to Archu, maybe even putting up a fight with others(read:Savita) for the same. Agreed and accepted, they put things in a justified light from Manav's point of view, absolutely understandable, but the audience, and in fact everyone else in the serial apart from Manav of course, automatically gets the right to immediately slap him and say, "Ab bahut pyaar aa raha hai, Shravani ki maang mein sindoor bharte samay yaad nahi ayi Archu ki..." Sad to say, Sulochana's second slap as you said, will again be unfortunate (considering his viewpoint and circumstances as stated above) but absolutely understandable, and I guess even most of the viewers who had earlier admonished Sulochana for slapping her SIL will now favour her.
Edited by nikitagmc - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Sometimes u need to walk the walk when u have done the talking. i strongly feel that silence is the potent weapon against anything, his silence should not be taken as an cowardly act.
When she was shivering in the cold he did his bit he wrapped her with his blanket. When his aai abused her, he stood up for her told his aai let she live with dignity and honour for the rest of 3months. I have a question the torture what he went through at the hands of the police.
The abuses to an extent the cop calling him impotent.😭
For no fault of his family was beaten up black n blue, and when he called up the great Soluchaan aai known only for raising her hand, she didn't even bother to call Archu.
He tried his best to prove his innocence to an extent i agree when people say trust can't be built over nite. You could identify right from the wrong. If archu had not deserted him and would stayed back asking Manav too prove his innocence that would have made more sense.
After all these things he still feels for her, thats love according too me. When his aai shouts and abuses Archu, he feels within his heart he weeps but he never shows that to the world. As his family feels that she and her family would be held responsible for the pain what they went through, without menacing words i would rather say it all begin with Archu deserting Manav. Men don't cry, so he his not able to express his love for Archu, Sindoor part when he filled Shravani's forehead. He never ever did it with joy, but he did with a sore heart. So that she learns to move on in her life without him. Thats what i call love.❤️
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Posted: 15 years ago
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All Manav talks is abt responsibility.I hav just one small qs for him...is Archana not his responsibility too? For Archana,he has both love n responsibility...for his aai (NOT FAMILY coz family me D baba bhi hai) he does everything...why cant he do sumthin for his father too?Once Only once listen to him. I think till date I hav seen only Archana doin efforts to stop the divorce..initially whie signin them n now in the court.But she started to luv manav after their marriage.Yet she had the sense of doin this.Why not manav?He was so much in luv with her tht he almost lied to marry her.Why he strives so hard to make his mother happy when she being a mother has never once bothered abt his happiness.Archu has a lovin family who always stand by her but Manav's family is horrible.Other than D baba or vandu I hardly see ne1 caring for Manav himself.Do they think he is superhuman or wht? In reality,no girls mother wud let her daughter marry manav if she knows the package tht comes with him is Savita,even if Manav luvs her as much as this bcoz after all he's too good to protest his mother or stop her abusings.As ankita said...prove your love...khaali mann hi mann me sorry bolne se kuch nahi hota.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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No pavitrata left in the rishta with Manav putting sindoor in Shravinis maang in front of Archana .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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i too have a question? i understand shravani is pregnent but is it necessary or allowed for her to come to stay in boys house before hte wedding?

Y manav doesnt realise that? where his values gone? moreover where is shravani's father? he doesnt have a brain? how can he put his daughter in a hell where he can clearly see how savita is treating her other d-i-l... what guarantee he has she will not treat shravani too in that manner? Ab izzat kahan gayi? savita doesnt want her married d-i-l to stay in her house but unmarried pregnet gal can stay in her house.... ab chawl ke log kuch nahi kahenge? koi kuch nahi bolega.!!!! Manav is brainless... he is a jerk... where he puts his responsibility .. ahead of love...............then what abt the responsbility for archana.... teek hai only for 3 months... but thats also responsbility to take care of her..... jerk!!!!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Akashspartan

Sometimes u need to walk the walk when u have done the talking. i strongly feel that silence is the potent weapon against anything, his silence should not be taken as an cowardly act.
When she was shivering in the cold he did his bit he wrapped her with his blanket. When his aai abused her, he stood up for her told his aai let she live with dignity and honour for the rest of 3months. I have a question the torture what he went through at the hands of the police.
The abuses to an extent the cop calling him impotent.😭
For no fault of his family was beaten up black n blue, and when he called up the great Soluchaan aai known only for raising her hand, she didn't even bother to call Archu.
He tried his best to prove his innocence to an extent i agree when people say trust can't be built over nite. You could identify right from the wrong. If archu had not deserted him and would stayed back asking Manav too prove his innocence that would have made more sense.
After all these things he still feels for her, thats love according too me. When his aai shouts and abuses Archu, he feels within his heart he weeps but he never shows that to the world. As his family feels that she and her family would be held responsible for the pain what they went through, without menacing words i would rather say it all begin with Archu deserting Manav. Men don't cry, so he his not able to express his love for Archu, Sindoor part when he filled Shravani's forehead. He never ever did it with joy, but he did with a sore heart. So that she learns to move on in her life without him. Thats what i call love.❤️

All these days we accused Manohar and Vinod of being wimps standing and watching and doing nothing. At least they did nothing. They did not actively collaborate in the wrong-doing happening in front of their eyes. Manav collaborates in the worst kind of human abuse and then has the gall to defend himself pathetically and professing his love. Is this the way one loves? by inflicting more pain? And what does he mean he is doing it for Archu's happiness ? I am sure there are much better ways of doing this. By asking everyone to just shup up, live the three months through without any further drama. But of course, that would be too simple.What about the emotional scars he is giving her with the active connivance with Saint Savita. She will need active psychiatric counselling to come out of this and be normal. What future happiness is he talking about? So this is the price that Archana is to pay for "Deserting " manav. What price did he or Savita pay for the lies and emotional abuse before that? Yes this serial degrades women.
Edited by vishwap - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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the last two posts were just awesome .
hats off to both of you . You guys said exactly wha tI have been thinking for such a long time . This man Manav , the rubbish he is talking these days that he is doing this for Archana's happiness , give me a break . He is just trying to find the easy way out .
He knows the way she feels about him . He has seen her for the past few months , falling at his feet , taking abuse from his mother without uttering a word ...who is she doing this for , he knows it is him . He even said that she loves me more than I love her but still my responsibilty is more important ...my family is more important .
The man is wrong even here because his responsibilty is Archana ....his family is Archana .
The judge addressed her as Mrs. Arcnana Manav Deshmukh ....what does that make her .....
He is just not looking into this because he so desperately wants to marry Shravani that he has closed his eyes to the reality.

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