Today Manav was wrong

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Today Manav was wrong . Not just wrong , very very wrong .
1] He may love his mother immensely and blindly , but that really doesn't mean his mother is allowed to constantly humiliate people by throwing their characters in their face in public . It is not wrong to be poor or lower middle class or to live in a chawl or even to have a roadside sense of humour . Even poor people can behave with dignity . See Kaka's character .........it ensures respect . But it is not acceptable to use gutter fighting guts to take advantage of the decency of someone and talk this cheaply to her evrytime u run into her . Savita herself is a woman .......how wud she feel if she was accused of being characterless ? Savitas argument is that she is fighting on Manav's behalf . Even if she is , purposefully hacking Archana's character on every roadside corner is simply not done . Vinod was right , the woman needed reining in . I know . fans having crushes on Manav will say what about Manav's character that went up in flames in public . But it has to be noted that the Karanjkar family did not plan that , neither did they throw Manav's character in his face on evry roadside corner when they bumped into him . They simply withdrew in silence , with coldness and dignity . What Varsha did with Savita was right . The way she was insulting Manav's Dad today , saying I wont stop etc is simply not done . When words cud not stop the woman , he slapped her which was long over due .
2] Manav had no right to tell his father not to slap his mother etc . His mother often insulted and humiliated his father publicly . Very badly too . Besides it is a husband wife matter ..........Savita is not just Manavs mom but also a wife . Who is Manav to interfere in a husband wife thingy ? He was cradling his nautanki low life mother as if she was a saint . Manav had heard her call Archana Charitra heen . Archana had come there upon invitation . Telling her to go was being a bad host and a horrible insult . Taking Savitas side and telling her to go was really too much . If till now he had shown irritation at Archu due to some of Archus faults i wud understand . But he showed irritation for first time for the wrong reason .
3] Girish and Sulochna r perfectly right from their point of view . Which parent will let his daughter stay in that hell hole where sons like Manav support their mother and Sachin gets trained under her for bad things like flicking money . It is not enough that the boy is good If the boy is incapable of standing upto his bad parents .....like Savita. Last time when Savita demanded necklace from Archus house Manav solved the problem by buying a necklace and pretending it was from Sulochana...........instead of telling his mother by standing up to her that no , no more jewels will be demanded, plain and simple . Was that any way of solving a problem ? If he is going to cradle his awful mother like this he is abetting her criminal behaviour .............for going to people's houses , standing in front of doors and calling them characterless is a legal crime and comes under character assasination . Manav has never stood upto Savita , all he has shown was he is attracted immensely to Archu . This isn't enough .
This is the time Archu shud have shown spirit and walked away saying stay with your cursed mother . Unfortunately spirit is shown wrongly in this serial .

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Yes, today Manav was wrong. by supporting his Aai, he supported what she said for Archu. same old woman is always blamed by Man.😡 He would have atleast supported his father today.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Noooooo i don't think Manav was wrong today.
1.I think Manav wanted Archu to go because he know his aayi and he was sure she is gonna insult Archu more infront of everyone,so i think he saved her.
2.Today when Archu says to her aayi that she was insulted why didn't she say that Manav dad supported her by slapping Savita ji???
3.If i am not wrong once Archu made Manav promise that not to support her infront of his aayi.
But i do accept he should have atleast asked his baba sorry but i don't think he was wrong today
4.When has Archu spoken in support of Manav??? even when her aayi was insulting Manav infront of every one she was simply crying and did not even speak a single word not even when her aayi slapped him. Why is that every time Manav has defend him and his love towards Archu.
5.May be attending function does not show her affection towards Manav she has to express her support to Manav by trusting him not simply by shouting that i have made all attempt to save our Pavitra Rishta then i think even Manav has supported her by saving Varsha from her evil boss.
so i don't think Manav is wrong today....
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Manav was cradling his sainted mother in his arms and telling his Dad I wont like anyone lifting hand on my mother etc .
What about the hundred times his mother lifts hand on people ? Both .......Hands and mouth . She gets into physical fights with people , insults them by talking badly of their character . Manav did not tell Archu to go coz he wanted to ; save ' her . By the time Manavs Dad had slapped Savita , she had properly cowed down . Thats what bullies often do , when they meet stronger people they cow down . That day how she cowed down before Varsha . She was chup chaap silent , the correct thing to do was to leave her there alone and all shud have gone in taking Archu together .That wud have been best insult for Savita .
As far as Manav's and Archu's story is concerned , one cannot really blame Archu so much for ' not speaking up ' for Manav . Theirs is not a love marraige it was a kind of arranged marraige where Manav was more in love with Archu . Archu hardly knew him except for the fifteen days she slept on the other side of the bed as a bahu . Archu didnt even know about Manavs silent love for her in the train etc till he told her . And fifteen days is not enough for a person to passionately ' speak up ' . The relationship was broken in the teething stage , remember that . Manav spoke for Archu coz he had directly heard the dalal talking on the phone in his garage . Archu had not been a witness to any such event , and besides the policeman ..........the law , lied . By that time she had been thru so much , with each man betraying her , that she was shattered .
I will say this much ..............Archu shud have given him the benefit of doubt and heard his side of the story coz she herself had once been framed and no one had believed her , including Satish's family . Remembering that , she shud have given manav the benefit of the doubt ...........this much i admit .
But beyond that ...........Savitas behaviour is atrocious . The woman needs to be jailed . Dowry demands , character assasination , mental and physical abuse ........so many charges can be levied against her . Manav's blind affection for her is simply unforgivable . Even Vandu and Sachin know her for what she is . Forget Archu or Sharvani ..........no daughter in law shud stay for a minute under the roof with Savita . Sons like Manav who worship their mother this blindly r better off not marrying girls and then wrecking their lives due to their matru bhakti . If u cannot stand up to ur mom , dont marry , so simple . Marry only when ur truly grown up . Savita is not just low life she is a greedy human being.........as bad as Rasika AAi . the diffrence only is Rasika Aai is polished and sophisticated , Savita is crass and crude . But internal core is same . Greedy , unscruplous , destroying innocents . The way Savita aai says " Aie ' and calls her bahu near etc is so awful that a son shud blast her for talking this way to any girl . Instead what he is cradling her in arms and telling Archu to go . The way Manav bullied his dad today by cradling his mom was too much . Some one shud have told him that it was none of his business .......to stay out of it just like Sachin , Vandu , Kaka and Manju did .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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koolsaddu,
I agree with every word you said. After few epis I felt Manav was also spineless. He too like Archana never stands up against his mom. He has failed to acknowledge how devious his mom could be. He has beleived every word she had said - remember the mangalsutra incident, Archu's reason for taking her things away, etc. Just being soft spoken and cordial does not make person good.
As far as i am concerned i have stopped caring for these two as they both need to grow up. they definetely are not ready for marriage. I wish PR would just concentrate on Varsh and Satish,
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I would have done the same as manav. no one can stand their mother getting slapped by anyone for any reason(even if its their father). I think manav was also trying to control the situation. he knows his relation with archana is ruined.he can see how that is effecting another relation (his parents) and might effect sachins relation too. so as an elder brother and a son he told archana to leave. i wont comment on his moms behaviour (i hate her).archana and manav have a lot of misunderstandings between them (created by other people..mainly their family).i m just talking about today so will not comment on who is wrong and who is not overall. but today i think manav didnt do anything wrong. everyone likes to create a tamasha and he is not one of them.and i dont think manav worships his mother. he wanted to get back with archana (went against his mom) but since she didnt give any response he backed off. what else can he do.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: unknown18

I would have done the same as manav. no one can stand their mother getting slapped by anyone for any reason(even if its their father). I think manav was also trying to control the situation. he knows his relation with archana is ruined.he can see how that is effecting another relation (his parents) and might effect sachins relation too. so as an elder brother and a son he told archana to leave. i wont comment on his moms behaviour (i hate her).archana and manav have a lot of misunderstandings between them (created by other people..mainly their family).i m just talking about today so will not comment on who is wrong and who is not overall. but today i think manav didnt do anything wrong. everyone likes to create a tamasha and he is not one of them.and i dont think manav worships his mother. he wanted to get back with archana (went against his mom) but since she didnt give any response he backed off. what else can he do.

I disagree with the statement that no one can stand their mother getting slapped by anyone for any reason . What if the mother is brutally assaulting another innocent girl . Or setting her on fire for dowry . Or holding her hands and squeezing golden bangles out by force . In such cases is the mother to be worshipped simply coz she is a mother ?When a parent becomes outright evil and starts committing crimes , shud the parent go unchecked simply coz it is a parent ? Does the relationship status grant the parent immunity to do any nonsense he or she desires ?
His mother was brutally assaulting a girl by taking her in the corner verbally , assasinating her character and was quite out of control . She has this dirty habit of behaving diffrently in front of Manav and calling people in a corner , outside the house , in the marrket , and bullying them like some gangster . Savita is no less than a female gangster in her attitude . It is not that she cannot turn on the charm tap when she wants to . She knows how to behave nicely .........she does understand the concept of ' nice ' behaviour . See how she fakes nice , respectful behaviour with Girishji or the Karanjkars till the point of getting married . That means she behaves like a local roadside dada by pure choice , coz she enjoys dominating and seeing the fright in some one's eyes . She is brutal at times and needs to be curbed . Our parents r human beings , not gods , just aged human beings who r perfectly liable to do the same mistakes that we do and if they get beyond bounds , they need to be corrected by society as they too are a part of that society . And the first social unit is the home . If manav's father crossed the bounds today , Savita has crossed the bounds a long time back and was treated pretty decently by evryone till now . If one goes by your reasoning , all parents who do such blatant nonsense will go absolutely scot free .
I also don't agree that Archu's presence was affecting the relation between his father and mother . Honestly , what relation? Does it even exist in the true sense ? She humiliates and insults the poor man in front of evryone ........the chawl people , her children , and literally is responsible for driving him to drink due to the unhappy atmosphere in the house . I wont excuse Manav's father here and say Savita makes him drink he is innocent . But yes , Savita is largely responssible for it , yes . He went through a bad patch in his acting career and she constantly started calling him a loser . There is no relation left between them as a couple ...........what will poor Archu affect it , or anyone else for that matter . Manav's father puts up with her due to the children and so does she .
I can agree with your point of not wanting a scene at Sachin's engagement and so Manav said etc. But still , the way he said was hurtful . And the very Sachin whose engagement he was worried about , he had only invited Archana , Manav shud have remembered that .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I was shocked when Manav asked Archana to leave. I know Manav was upset at his mom getting slapped, I understand that but asking Archana to leave was just wrong
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

sadvita

Manav was cradling his sainted mother in his arms and telling his Dad I wont like anyone lifting hand on my mother etc .
What about the hundred times his mother lifts hand on people ? Both .......Hands and mouth . She gets into physical fights with people , insults them by talking badly of their character . Manav did not tell Archu to go coz he wanted to ; save ' her . By the time Manavs Dad had slapped Savita , she had properly cowed down . Thats what bullies often do , when they meet stronger people they cow down . That day how she cowed down before Varsha . She was chup chaap silent , the correct thing to do was to leave her there alone and all shud have gone in taking Archu together .That wud have been best insult for Savita .
As far as Manav's and Archu's story is concerned , one cannot really blame Archu so much for ' not speaking up ' for Manav . Theirs is not a love marraige it was a kind of arranged marraige where Manav was more in love with Archu . Archu hardly knew him except for the fifteen days she slept on the other side of the bed as a bahu . Archu didnt even know about Manavs silent love for her in the train etc till he told her . And fifteen days is not enough for a person to passionately ' speak up ' . The relationship was broken in the teething stage , remember that . Manav spoke for Archu coz he had directly heard the dalal talking on the phone in his garage . Archu had not been a witness to any such event , and besides the policeman ..........the law , lied . By that time she had been thru so much , with each man betraying her , that she was shattered .
I will say this much ..............Archu shud have given him the benefit of doubt and heard his side of the story coz she herself had once been framed and no one had believed her , including Satish's family . Remembering that , she shud have given manav the benefit of the doubt ...........this much i admit .
But beyond that ...........Savitas behaviour is atrocious . The woman needs to be jailed . Dowry demands , character assasination , mental and physical abuse ........so many charges can be levied against her . Manav's blind affection for her is simply unforgivable . Even Vandu and Sachin know her for what she is . Forget Archu or Sharvani ..........no daughter in law shud stay for a minute under the roof with Savita . Sons like Manav who worship their mother this blindly r better off not marrying girls and then wrecking their lives due to their matru bhakti . If u cannot stand up to ur mom , dont marry , so simple . Marry only when ur truly grown up . Savita is not just low life she is a greedy human being.........as bad as Rasika AAi . the diffrence only is Rasika Aai is polished and sophisticated , Savita is crass and crude . But internal core is same . Greedy , unscruplous , destroying innocents . The way Savita aai says " Aie ' and calls her bahu near etc is so awful that a son shud blast her for talking this way to any girl . Instead what he is cradling her in arms and telling Archu to go . The way Manav bullied his dad today by cradling his mom was too much . Some one shud have told him that it was none of his business .......to stay out of it just like Sachin , Vandu , Kaka and Manju did .

Well said. I agree with what you say. No woman should have a mother in law like Savita. When archu lived there with here in that house is really not a good place too live. Its dificult to live with someone like Savita. I don't want to live there 4 a moet Oke she has a good sweet husband but when he was at work the whole day, archu was at home with Savita and it was like hell to her. Savita wasn't nice she was a pain in the ass.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Savita is such a Monster-in-Law, I dnt tink any girl wud feel safe in such an atmosphere... Archana is also too meek she shd hve given it right back to Savita frm day 1 jaise ko taisa..people like Savita shd be dealt in the same manner like she does wid others.....Maybe Shravani will teach her a lesson or too.

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