The complicated web of relationships - Page 7

Originally posted by: AreYaar

The two main characters trying a very hard balancing act right now are HS and Mini😆

For HS, this is about balancing the happiness of his Makaan Maalkin alongside the happiness of his Veer Balika. He has chosen the route of neutral observer and mediator to some extent....diplomatically trying to explore options from both sides but he will be forced to take sides between a very stubborn and headstrong set of mother and daughter.....lol

I really liked how he tried to talk to Babita for Mini's sake.....the way he tried to frame it as a kindness and courtesy to NB, knowing that might melt Babita a little bit since she was just talking about repaying some of NB's kindness towards them.....lol....but Babita ofcourse doesn't want to deal with the Khuranas.

You know what cracks me up though? Khuranas are Ashok se judi kadvi yaadein but not that CD she kept for so many months? 😛😆.....CD se koi yaadein nahin aati thi Ashok ki? lol

I also found it interesting that she again and again kept offering money to take care of them.....financial independence starts making you view the world so differently. HS had to make her understand gently that it's not about money....it's about human emotions and apnapan.

For 17 years, Babita treated them like her apne....whatever may be the reason....obligation, mahaanta, majboori....but she did. So to toss money at them to make them go away as she "moves on" is not exactly the smoothest move especially if you still all share a child amongst you.

Babita is entitled to her independence and moving on.....but there is a child in the mix. Her husband never took responsibility, had no bond or a pull with Mini....but the grandparents do. In her meltdown, Babita forgot this crucial detail. These are the same grandparents she once confided in when she was worried about Mini's state of mind, her loneliness.....now suddenly these same grandparents are persona non grata.....LOL granted they are selfish people, but they didn't exactly torture her. She isn't obligated to do their seva but to go the other route of blacklisting them from meeting the grandkid they too helped raise? Yeah, that's where Babita is making a mess as usual.

On top of that, insaaniyat bhi koi cheez hoti hai....they are old, feeble and need regular doctor visits....their own kids have foresaken responsibility....as it happens in real life many times also....and someone has to step up.....Mini has chosen to step up without obligating her mother for anything....she's trying to balance between her mother as well as her grandparents......HS is trying to step up for Mini's sake and for the basic sake of humanity. But Babita is as usual too caught up in her own head to see the bigger picture.

When one sets out to carve a new life, it is human ofcourse to want to forget all your old bad memories....but if one thinks simply blocking out old memories will give you peace and you will be able to enjoy your new life, you're wrong.....you have to make peace with your past, reconcile to it in order to truly be able to build a new life.

Babita spent 17 years with the Khuranas.....she is trying to spin that entire time as one big endless torturefest....which it wasn't.....yes, there were probably many bad moments, long periods of loneliness....but she's shared good memories with the Khuranas too which she is right now conveniently blocking out. These are the same Daadu Beeji that she was once grateful to for helping her complete her BA after marriage.

And ofcourse, there is Mini herself....if Babita really thinks that totally cutting Mini off from her grandparents will let any of them enjoy their new life as a family in the haveli, she is again being shortsighted.

These are complicated relationships that have to be managed....one can't simply wish them away.

Anyways, as usual, I will wait for whenever Babita manages to get through her meltdown, tears, and manages to explain her real reason for shunning the grandparents....hoga koi darr😆....not making light of the situation.....just pointing out the usual pattern of how this goes. LOL

Originally posted by: Devilow0405

I partly don’t agree with you regarding babita, yes, she had good memories with them but compared to bad memories how many were good,the reason why she doesn’t want her former in laws to be with her is because of Minnie, it is ironic really. Whether it is good love or bad love people tend to take sides with whom they have affection , that affection can sometimes destroy relationships unknowingly. That is what babita is afraid , her daughter taking sides and losing her. That is babita ‘s mental turmoil. We can say it is just her imagination but things like this happen somewhere in world every time. Minnie is right in her place, but I feel babita is right in her view. Furthermore the in laws still have grudges towards babita in them it might not be openly but they are feeling it and that can lead to bitterness.

My issue isn't regarding why Babita doesn't want her in-laws with her....my issue is with how she is expressing it.....you have interpreted it as her thinking she will lose Mini....but the scenes in the episode don't reflect this....we are mainly shown a Babita issuing blanket ultimatums to Mini without explaining what's actually driving her behavior. Mini is not a 5 year old child...she's almost an adult....at this stage, Babita should be talking things through with her....even more so since they behave like friends/sisters more than mother-daughter with each other.....you don't issue directives like this to a grown kid.

Obviously it's complicated to keep your in-laws around....there are subtextual things at play...and bitterness already exists now thanks to the blowup at the wedding....whether they stay in the house or not.....Babita is inevitably losing her daughter to them by suffocating her with directives....rather than understanding that a balance will have to be struck, Babita is only making things worse in how she's handling Mini.

I think it's more a case of when you get happiness in life, you sometimes get more paranoid about losing it.....that is what seems to drive a lot of Babita's behavior these days.....she's gotten happiness after so long in her life, she wants to control the parameters for it....but she has to manage her own emotions and behavior better if she wants to manage the overall situations.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

The two main characters trying a very hard balancing act right now are HS and Mini😆

For HS, this is about balancing the happiness of his Makaan Maalkin alongside the happiness of his Veer Balika. He has chosen the route of neutral observer and mediator to some extent....diplomatically trying to explore options from both sides but he will be forced to take sides between a very stubborn and headstrong set of mother and daughter.....lol

I really liked how he tried to talk to Babita for Mini's sake.....the way he tried to frame it as a kindness and courtesy to NB, knowing that might melt Babita a little bit since she was just talking about repaying some of NB's kindness towards them.....lol....but Babita ofcourse doesn't want to deal with the Khuranas.

You know what cracks me up though? Khuranas are Ashok se judi kadvi yaadein but not that CD she kept for so many months? 😛😆.....CD se koi yaadein nahin aati thi Ashok ki? lol

I also found it interesting that she again and again kept offering money to take care of them.....financial independence starts making you view the world so differently. HS had to make her understand gently that it's not about money....it's about human emotions and apnapan.

For 17 years, Babita treated them like her apne....whatever may be the reason....obligation, mahaanta, majboori....but she did. So to toss money at them to make them go away as she "moves on" is not exactly the smoothest move especially if you still all share a child amongst you.

Babita is entitled to her independence and moving on.....but there is a child in the mix. Her husband never took responsibility, had no bond or a pull with Mini....but the grandparents do. In her meltdown, Babita forgot this crucial detail. These are the same grandparents she once confided in when she was worried about Mini's state of mind, her loneliness.....now suddenly these same grandparents are persona non grata.....LOL granted they are selfish people, but they didn't exactly torture her. She isn't obligated to do their seva but to go the other route of blacklisting them from meeting the grandkid they too helped raise? Yeah, that's where Babita is making a mess as usual.

On top of that, insaaniyat bhi koi cheez hoti hai....they are old, feeble and need regular doctor visits....their own kids have foresaken responsibility....as it happens in real life many times also....and someone has to step up.....Mini has chosen to step up without obligating her mother for anything....she's trying to balance between her mother as well as her grandparents......HS is trying to step up for Mini's sake and for the basic sake of humanity. But Babita is as usual too caught up in her own head to see the bigger picture.

When one sets out to carve a new life, it is human ofcourse to want to forget all your old bad memories....but if one thinks simply blocking out old memories will give you peace and you will be able to enjoy your new life, you're wrong.....you have to make peace with your past, reconcile to it in order to truly be able to build a new life.

Babita spent 17 years with the Khuranas.....she is trying to spin that entire time as one big endless torturefest....which it wasn't.....yes, there were probably many bad moments, long periods of loneliness....but she's shared good memories with the Khuranas too which she is right now conveniently blocking out. These are the same Daadu Beeji that she was once grateful to for helping her complete her BA after marriage.

And ofcourse, there is Mini herself....if Babita really thinks that totally cutting Mini off from her grandparents will let any of them enjoy their new life as a family in the haveli, she is again being shortsighted.

These are complicated relationships that have to be managed....one can't simply wish them away.

Anyways, as usual, I will wait for whenever Babita manages to get through her meltdown, tears, and manages to explain her real reason for shunning the grandparents....hoga koi darr😆....not making light of the situation.....just pointing out the usual pattern of how this goes. LOL

@bold kal mujhe laga koi Meri baat se agree nahi karega . Faltu me Babes ki hater samjhege, which I am clearly not. Isliye I didn’t give an opinion yesterday. But I am glad that others too have same opinion regarding it.

M is not wrong helping her grandparents . As much as Hanita are her family, Dadu-beeji are her family too no one has the right to stop her from meeting them. And yes Babita was too at fault, why did she not speak for herself why be happy when mini gave a reply to Lovely for her behaviour , she too had a mouth and opinion why not express it to anyone. She could ask them to let her go to ashok but no she didn’t and she made it look sab theek hai.

Saying this I am not defending the Khuranas They were at greater fault I agree

Originally posted by: divyadaya13

Your analysis is good as usual😊

But as an avid Pb Fan i am really pissed of right now with makers for making babita an unrealistic caricature of an immature woman and minnie as mahaan. I had so much faith in makers that they have brought old dd days back. But for now this show is turning into another melodrama. I really did not like the day the makers showed khuranas as next door neighbours was worried about the same melodrama happening now. PB are such a talented lot that there were many good things to show. But alas. Nothing to say presently.

Thank you😊

Babita off late definitely has become mostly a cauldron of immature and petulant behavior.....I agree.....so I've started viewing the show with that baseline expectation.....it used to frustrate me more before....now I'm resigned to it....lol

Not sure where the writers are taking this....but I think they are doing this to help Babita resolve her baggage with the Khuranas....a lot of her bitterness from the wedding day is thanks to that....until she lets go of it, she won't really be able to be happy.....yes she's gone through a lot...but holding on to that bitterness won't help her in anyway.....Khuranas are not going to magically disappear just cuz she wishes it.....they will always be involved in her life as a connection to Mini....so ideally this chapter should be about her finding middle ground and peace of mind with regards to that.

Babita is a bit casualty of the writing right now unless they evolve her from here.....otherwise I still like the show a lot.

Originally posted by: NimbuMirchi

So we both addressed the 2 points made in opening post. 😃

Originally posted by: Jiarao

I am in 100% agreement with you in this.I feel Babitha is running away from her past rather than facing it. No matter where Khuraanas live , she will be affected by them. So I don't think their living in haveli will make any difference. Tbh I am neither worried about Khuraanas nor about Babitha. Let them do what they want but I don't want Mini to suffer which will in turn make HS unhappy. So I want them to find a midway and end this.

@bold: Exactly.

I also don't think it will make any difference whether Khuranas move in or not....Mini will keep running to them anyways, so Babita will still be affected by things regardless if she acts so rigidly.....it has to be handled sensibly.

Complicated situation hai toh thoda impact toh hoga hi on all three of them....I just want to see some development of HS-Mini ka equation.

HS-Babita ka toh what to say😆.....she's still mostly in her own head....two way street nahin hai so far.

Originally posted by: Hannie_Fan

@bold kal mujhe laga koi Meri baat se agree nahi karega . Faltu me Babes ki hater samjhege, which I am clearly not. Isliye I didn’t give an opinion yesterday. But I am glad that others too have same opinion regarding it.

M is not wrong helping her grandparents . As much as Hanita are her family, Dadu-beeji are her family too no one has the right to stop her from meeting them. And yes Babita was too at fault, why did she not speak for herself why be happy when mini gave a reply to Lovely for her behaviour , she too had a mouth and opinion why not express it to anyone. She could ask them to let her go to ashok but no she didn’t and she made it look sab theek hai.

Saying this I am not defending the Khuranas They were at greater fault I agree

I'm not sure what the problem is in admitting that Babita was at fault too in however the situation developed....both parties contributed to it.....she didn't know how to stand up for her rights and she started resenting the grandparents for not automatically handing her her rights.....this bitterness is filled up inside her that she needs to let go of that to find peace. That's all

Just like I also felt that HS messed up in handling the CD issue the day of the wedding....so jab HS ki galti ko accept kar sakte hain, Babita ki kyun nahin? 😕

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Thank you😊

Babita off late definitely has become mostly a cauldron of immature and petulant behavior.....I agree.....so I've started viewing the show with that baseline expectation.....it used to frustrate me more before....now I'm resigned to it....lol

Not sure where the writers are taking this....but I think they are doing this to help Babita resolve her baggage with the Khuranas....a lot of her bitterness from the wedding day is thanks to that....until she lets go of it, she won't really be able to be happy.....yes she's gone through a lot...but holding on to that bitterness won't help her in anyway.....Khuranas are not going to magically disappear just cuz she wishes it.....they will always be involved in her life as a connection to Mini....so ideally this chapter should be about her finding middle ground and peace of mind with regards to that.

Babita is a bit casualty of the writing right now unless they evolve her from here.....otherwise I still like the show a lot.

Originally posted by: divyadaya13

even i want to keep on liking this show. But not at the cost of babita character being ruined left right and centre. Wanted it to be more of womans emancipation rather than khurana melodrama.

I guess they think they are still showing emancipation only since Babita ka amrit manthan is still ongoing🤔😆

Originally posted by: AreYaar

I guess they think they are still showing emancipation only since Babita ka amrit manthan is still ongoing🤔😆