The Train hug - Page 8

Originally posted by: sheen97

I have loved pari in initial episodes, she was good especially during divorce drama. When ashok humilited her she was good there, dheere jalna, tum pukar lo, even. When she sends ashok away and dances and tujhse naaraz zindagi one. Even during padwal ki sabzi scene her anger, her care as a wife thr way she thumped her payal in anger.

But since the imarti track, somewhere whole connect is missing. I think the main reason is pari is herself not convinced the way her character is shaping up. The way her character growth is still. She herself was frustered that its been a year yet babes is still stuck where she started. Ki babes jaise baby ho.

But its her job right , who knows she might end up impressing her all .

Perhaps as you said she is not convinced, but that's for her to sort out with the team. It shouldn't come through on screen to the audience. Rather, I would expect her to do even more to bring Babita's 'plight' across to us.

I think that's why some of the audience members are frustrated with the supposed lack of growth in her character. If she's unable to move on from the baggage of the past and is taking time to change, 17 years are not easy to get over in 7 months, and she rushed into the marriage before she was fully ready, etc. Fine, show us that, convince us. If done correctly, we might even find it believable and be convinced to stand behind her and say "we know it's not easy, it takes time, we're with you". Now a lot of people are just getting mad at Babita, and worse still, many are losing interest in her journey, which is quite sad considering she's one of the leads and that a huge number of tracks in this story are about her emotions, flaws, and journey.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Yes, in those initial episodes she was good, and she made me get her point of view immediately.

As for being confused about HS, Ashok, etc. I only get that because the dialogues and scenes have been set up to make me think that way, so my head knows it but my heart hasn't been touched the way it should have after such a major revelation from her.

Cut to two episodes later and Minnie's eyes are doing all the talking when she breaks down during HS' apologies, or walks down the stairs with HS or crumples when she does the GP.... all this without a single word from her.

All this time, Babita is watching them and her expressions at least tell us how she feels as a mother in that moment, so she was able to get some of that across.

I'm sorry it's just such a huge difference from Wednesday's episode...

I know for few scenes the emotional connect misses very badly... Let c if we can get any reason why is it happening in further episodes...

And yes if we compare the other emotional. Breakdown of Babita Wednesday one was not that good....

Originally posted by: inlieu

Yeah, I've frankly given up on Paridhi growing much as an actor despite being given a rare opportunity to play such a complex character. Her source material is much richer than Minnie and HS' character sketches in may ways in the sense that a lot of it is explicit and has been focused on her since day one.

The reason why Aniruddh and Ashnoor's skills are talked about is that they don't seem to be acting like they are crying, but no matter how good they are it shouldn't take away from Babita's pain. Each character to its own.

You mentioned her scenes when she went to NB's house during the Imarti track. Dadu Beeji were also upset, and NB's face was streaming with tears as she was hurting while remembering and narrating everything, yet nothing seemed unnatural there. Even a dialogue like 'sau sau mautein marta tha' or something like that, which could have been melodramatic, was perfectly spoken by Sandhyaji while she cried. She made us feel HS' pain during that whole scene but at the same time her pain as a mother seeing her son go through all that was perfectly communicated to us without her saying a single word about herself.

Babita's ego might have been hurt or whatever the reason was that she left the haveli, but as someone who apparently loved HS, forget that, as a fellow human being I would expect her to feel moved by the tragedy, yet the emotional connect was missing despite all the glycerin and tears on her face. And don't even get me started on her expression when HS saw her looking at him from the balcony after his talk with SS. One of the most disappointing bits for me, considering I had been so looking forward to her reaction after learning all this.

Anyway, I just try not to expect anything more from Paridhi or her Babita, which is a shame because as a woman I had been rooting for both of them to succeed since the early days of this show.

Originally posted by: Jiarao

For me, the most disappointing bit was the way she stood at the door without moving a muscle of her face while HS cried holding Mini's hand. How on earth she managed not to shed a single drop of tear for the man she supposedly loved? Even if the director told her not to cry, she could have atleast done something through her eyes to show she is feeling his pain. I don't think I can erase that picture from my mind unless they show HS bringing it up at some point. Before that I could atleast feel some pity for Babitha but now I don't feel anything for her.

Felt like you were reading my mind here. I think a lot of people felt that way exactly in those scenes. I mean, even on humanitarian grounds to watch a person in that state, that too HS who has always been with them through thick and thin, I couldn't have controlled my emotions. As you said, even her eyes did not convey it. I think this is why Minnie, HS, and NB had a go at her about her ego.

Fine, they were trying to show that her ego was too big, but having a big ego doesn't mean she can't feel sorry. She may not say anything with words but should we not see it in her eyes that she's pained to see the love of her life suffering like this?

When I mentioned the balcony scene I was referring to Paridhi and not Babita. I just didn't get anything from her in that bit where her eyes met HS' as he looked at her after SS had left... It should have been a glance that spoke volumes but it said nothing.

Anyway, I'd better stop here before I get told off for bashing the actor or the character, when all I'm doing is expressing my disappointment at the disconnect.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Felt like you were reading my mind here. I think a lot of people felt that way exactly in those scenes. I mean, even on humanitarian grounds to watch a person in that state, that too HS who has always been with them through thick and thin, I couldn't have controlled my emotions. As you said, even her eyes did not convey it. I think this is why Minnie, HS, and NB had a go at her about her ego.

Fine, they were trying to show that her ego was too big, but having a big ego doesn't mean she can't feel sorry. She may not say anything with words but should we not see it in her eyes that she's pained to see the love of her life suffering like this?

When I mentioned the balcony scene I was referring to Paridhi and not Babita. I just didn't get anything from her in that bit where her eyes met HS' as he looked at her after SS had left... It should have been a glance that spoke volumes but it said nothing.

Anyway, I'd better stop here before I get told off for bashing the actor or the character, when all I'm doing is expressing my disappointment at the disconnect.

I was holding back since long time for the same reason. This thread made me speak the truth. I know I have offended many of her fans but I am not sorry for expressing my disappointment over the portrayal of lead chracter.

Well who likes whose acting is very subjective and personal. Personally I feel all three actually everyone in PB does a good job. My mom thinks only ashnoor is the good actor she feels babita and HS are not acting well. I feel anirudh does do a very good job with the haryanvi accent. His acting also has a fun/light element to it in some scenes. Although for me like HS, mini / ashnoor first hai. With babita i actually dont connect to the character only so I can't actually know if it's the acting or the character itself. I haven seen paridhi before Also to compare. I sometimes though think the writers could have done a better job with the charaterization. Made her a little stronger. And everytime she does become a little stronger she doesn't need to be indifferent to others feelings, which happens with her every times she becomes a bit strong or takes a stand for herself

Originally posted by: inlieu

Felt like you were reading my mind here. I think a lot of people felt that way exactly in those scenes. I mean, even on humanitarian grounds to watch a person in that state, that too HS who has always been with them through thick and thin, I couldn't have controlled my emotions. As you said, even her eyes did not convey it. I think this is why Minnie, HS, and NB had a go at her about her ego.

Fine, they were trying to show that her ego was too big, but having a big ego doesn't mean she can't feel sorry. She may not say anything with words but should we not see it in her eyes that she's pained to see the love of her life suffering like this?

Oh this scene? I always interpreted it as a manisfestation of Babita’s lack of self worth.....she didn’t feel worthy of being able to console him. And the emotions were frozen on her face because of the level to which she was holding back. The dead eyes and the tears frozen on her face....that is what they indicated to me.

Ego helps to cover up the vulnerability. She kinda did the same thing after the wedding as she was avoiding him. It ended up being revealed as a lack of self worth issue.

For a woman who otherwise cries so much, she otherwise spends a lot of time running away from her emotions. Lol

I do feel that was the director’s instruction to enact it that way...Paridhi is quite capable of emoting otherwise Itna basic level ka toh if she’d been told to show more emotion for HS in that scene. They wanted Babita to be held back deliberately.

Originally posted by: Jiarao

Whatever they wanted show, she could have atleast tried to improvise there and convey the pain through her eyes. Isn't it what great actors do as per her self declaration? I might be unfair here but when writers wanted HS to accuse Minnie , he did accuse her but also made us feel the pian behind it. That's what made people sympathise more with HS than Mini. But what happened during Imarti and ego track is I could never feel the pain of Babitha. She made me lose all my feelings for Babitha.

I was holding back since long time for the same reason. This thread made me speak the truth. I know I have offended many of her fans but I am not sorry for expressing my disappointment over the portrayal of lead chracter.

@bold, same here. I was so so surprised, to be honest. This was a big moment in Babita's life too, having to confront HS' past and Imarti's place in his, and by extension, her life too. I had been waiting for ages to see how she would feel when the time came about all this as a woman, a lover, a mother, a tenant, etc. I got nothing close to what I would have expected, so I thought it was just a phase or just that track. However, since then things have gone downhill for me in that regard.

I, too, couldn't hold back my disappointment any longer so finally expressed it. Again, I'm not saying Paridhi is a bad actress, just that I was expecting more from her because I know she has it in her somewhere. Anyway... mitti pao.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Oh this scene? I always interpreted it as a manisfestation of Babita’s lack of self worth.....she didn’t feel worthy of being able to console him. And the emotions were frozen on her face because of the level to which she was holding back. The dead eyes and the tears frozen on her face....that is what they indicated to me.

Ego helps to cover up the vulnerability. She kinda did the same thing after the wedding as she was avoiding him. It ended up being revealed as a lack of self worth issue.

For a woman who otherwise cries so much, she otherwise spends a lot of time running away from her emotions. Lol

I do feel that was the director’s instruction to enact it that way...Paridhi is quite capable of emoting otherwise Itna basic level ka toh if she’d been told to show more emotion for HS in that scene. They wanted Babita to be held back deliberately.

Yes, I get that she was holding back. All of what you said makes sense and it's clear that's what they wanted to show.

What I am trying to say is that my mind knew and understood all of this because of the way the track was going and because of what we know of Babita's character, but it didn't reach my heart. Didn't stir anything in me the way it should have, the fact that she felt frozen. I should have felt her dilemma and angst, the dead eyes should have made me feel or at least empathize with her emptiness, but that never happened. I have watched those scenes many times just to see if I missed something but have always walked away with the same impression: nothing.

That frustrates me because as a woman, I wanted to feel those things and make this journey with her, but I ended up feeling as a mere observer and not a co-traveler. She is capable of emoting, but I think when it comes to extremely complex emotions, there's a disconnect.

Don't know if this makes sense.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Yes, I get that she was holding back. All of what you said makes sense and it's clear that's what they wanted to show.

What I am trying to say is that my mind knew and understood all of this because of the way the track was going and because of what we know of Babita's character, but it didn't reach my heart. Didn't stir anything in me the way it should have, the fact that she felt frozen. I should have felt her dilemma and angst, the dead eyes should have made me feel or at least empathize with her emptiness, but that never happened. I have watched those scenes many times just to see if I missed something but have always walked away with the same impression: nothing.

That frustrates me because as a woman, I wanted to feel those things and make this journey with her, but I ended up feeling as a mere observer and not a co-traveler. She is capable of emoting, but I think when it comes to extremely complex emotions, there's a disconnect.

Don't know if this makes sense.

Oh it makes sense, don’t worry. I do get your point too....she is not that level of exceptional actress to be able to overcome writing that shows her character in complex and twisted ways.

I remember when I watched the scene the first time, my heart got a bit heavy as I realized the depth of Babita’s repression in that moment....a moment where HS was crying in a heartbroken manner and she couldn’t move a muscle...she was literally almost hiding behind the door, clinging to it....barely even wanting to cross the threshold,...I found that symbolic of her state of mind....hesitant to step forward.

I guess for myself, I’m resigned to the fact that with Babita, there will be moments where even as a woman, I’m going to feel a sense of detachment....like an observer rather than feeling that emotion as a woman....and perhaps it’s meant to be that way 🤷‍♀️