I don't know: ajao saray - Page 35

Originally posted by: Sakurablossom

I used to be a pretty babita loving person... writers have managed to make me feel annoyed with her... Congratulations to the writers, if this is what they wanted.

I loved imperfect babita, but this "dobi" babita is too much to handle. How could she be so clueless and oblivious about feelings of other people!

If they wanted to show that babita had her share of mistake in previous failed marriage,they could have done it more gracefully- what they are showing her right now makes me feel like she's having premature menopause or she wasn't interested in men to begin with.

I'm just afraid that they are giving viewers the wrong message with all these and actually discouraging instead of encouraging them about remarriage.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Yes the joota chor scene was great!

I dare say he loves Naeem Bi. I remember the episode where he was mock scolding her for sending him to the tailor and he had to stand there and feel embarrassed as a thanedaar, yet one smile from her and he looked at her so affectionately and pulled her cheek. ❤️

I agree she has in a way raised him and passed on a lot of her values. Her capacity for immense, selfless love is what I see in him too, and I guess some of his wisdom. What I love about him is that even if he doesn't always understand things as well as NB he respects her advice and at least keeps it in mind but still continues to be his own person.

NB is off limits to everyone, especially Babita. After complaining about Beeji she can't hold a candle to NB.

Yeh mother-son bhi bohot zyaada cute hai! ❤❤❤

Haha, yes!! It totally reminded me of my mom. I would get miffed at her for little things but one little (quite a few) pokes to her tummy, would melt the anger away. ❤

Another thing, Naeem Bi is quite aware of her position in people's lives. She's constantly reminding HS that she's not her mother or would start off her advices with that disclaimer. But then she would proceed to treat him just like her son and guide him as needed. Furthermore, she doesn't hand hold him for every little thing. She understands that he's his own person and lets him take his own actions, even if she may not agree with them. As in the case of post Imarti's death and HS losing himself in alcohol. I don't know what must've been going through that mother's house at the time.

Even with the Khuranas, she was mindful of her position. If they want to leave because they think she doesn't want them around, then she'll dispell their assumption by holding onto them tight. But if it's for other reasons, then she can't stop them because she has no right to.

Btw, her holding onto loved ones was in contrast to Babita's. Naeem Bi won't hesitate from keeping loved ones close, but she also respects their wishes and gives them the freedom to act as they want. Babita on the other hand, goes to suffocating levels and essentially keeps people as her prisoners.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Maybe he should just start making pots by himself upstairs and leave the wheel lying around to remind Babita of what they shared and what that feeling was about.

Lmao, I think she'll have HS' reaction where she blasts at him for making such a huge mess. 😂

Originally posted by: inlieu

I'm just afraid that they are giving viewers the wrong message with all these and actually discouraging instead of encouraging them about remarriage.

You still have doubts???

The wedding was the saddest wedding in the world!! More negative than a funeral! If that hasn't brought your tempo down then I wanna know what is your secret...

Originally posted by: LoveInAutumn26

Can someone explain to me what exactly is Babita scared or terrified of? Having sex, getting intimate or is it something else? Is that court scene still haunting her? This is beyond my understanding at this point 🙄

I personally think it's physical intimacy. Pre marriage, yes they shared moments, but at the end of the day, they went back to their little nests. HS on his charpayi, and Babita to Minnie. But sharing a room and a bed moroever is a whole different matter. In that aspect HS is a complete stranger to her and she's being asked to sleep in the same bed as him.

And let's think about the kind of nights she would have spent with Ashok. He doesn't seem like the kind of person who would have been kind or indulged her with some late night talks. Even after having sex, did he provide her with some after care? Heck, even while having sex, did he ever take her needs into consideration or did he just pass out after he climaxed? What did Babita do then? Clean up the mess, hide their dirty deed and then go to sleep? Did she even sleep? Did she feel hollowed out? Used? For that matter, did they ever have sex after Minnie was born? How did Babita feel then? Bacha hogaya and now she's no longer appealing to him? That's a whole different kind of low.

HS and Ashok are two completely different people, but just the mere idea of having to share the same bed with him might be triggering her.

For arguements sake, let's say they do go on their honeymoon. The day is filled with activities. But what about night? Again, it comes down to the fact that she'll have to spend the night with him, in the same bed.

I think she has some severe trauma from her first experiences and she has suppressed it for SO long but now it's in danger of coming out.

If this isn't the case, then I don't know what can justify Babita's behavior.

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

I personally think it's physical intimacy. Pre marriage, yes they shared moments, but at the end of the day, they went back to their little nests. HS on his charpayi, and Babita to Minnie. But sharing a room and a bed moroever is a whole different matter. In that aspect HS is a complete stranger to her and she's being asked to sleep in the same bed as him.

And let's think about the kind of nights she would have spent with Ashok. He doesn't seem like the kind of person who would have been kind or indulged her with some late night talks. Even after having sex, did he provide her with some after care? Heck, even while having sex, did he ever take her needs into consideration or did he just pass out after he climaxed? What did Babita do then? Clean up the mess, hide their dirty deed and then go to sleep? Did she even sleep? Did she feel hollowed out? Used? For that matter, did they ever have sex after Minnie was born? How did Babita feel then? Bacha hogaya and now she's no longer appealing to him? That's a whole different kind of low.

HS and Ashok are two completely different people, but just the mere idea of having to share the same bed with him might be triggering her.

For arguements sake, let's say they do go on their honeymoon. The day is filled with activities. But what about night? Again, it comes down to the fact that she'll have to spend the night with him, in the same bed.

I think she has some severe trauma from her first experiences and she has suppressed it for SO long but now it's in danger of coming out.

If this isn't the case, then I don't know what can justify Babita's behavior.

I'm pretty sure that's what they're going for. But can't they show it in a bit mature way? In a way we can relate to her? Cause what they're showing right now isn't helping babita's case at all! Also it should be Poonam or naeem bi who should sense this fear. If writers are going to show Minnie solving this problem for babita then I am going to bang my head in my pillow.

Originally posted by: Sakurablossom

I'm pretty sure that's what they're going for. But can't they show it in a bit mature way? In a way we can relate to her? Cause what they're showing right now isn't helping babita's case at all! Also it should be Poonam or naeem bi who should sense this fear. If writers are going to show Minnie solving this problem for babita then I am going to bang my head in my pillow.

Agreed.

I don't want Minnie anywhere near this. She's already been scarred enough. She doesn't need her mother's sexual experiences to add onto her own trauma.

If not even Naeem Bi, Babes should feel comfortable speaking with Poonam. Also, agree with you that their presentation of this subject is wrong. Babita is coming off as being quite rude and very childish, while there are absolutely no hints as to what the actual matter is.

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

I personally think it's physical intimacy. Pre marriage, yes they shared moments, but at the end of the day, they went back to their little nests. HS on his charpayi, and Babita to Minnie. But sharing a room and a bed moroever is a whole different matter. In that aspect HS is a complete stranger to her and she's being asked to sleep in the same bed as him.

And let's think about the kind of nights she would have spent with Ashok. He doesn't seem like the kind of person who would have been kind or indulged her with some late night talks. Even after having sex, did he provide her with some after care? Heck, even while having sex, did he ever take her needs into consideration or did he just pass out after he climaxed? What did Babita do then? Clean up the mess, hide their dirty deed and then go to sleep? Did she even sleep? Did she feel hollowed out? Used? For that matter, did they ever have sex after Minnie was born? How did Babita feel then? Bacha hogaya and now she's no longer appealing to him? That's a whole different kind of low.

HS and Ashok are two completely different people, but just the mere idea of having to share the same bed with him might be triggering her.

For arguements sake, let's say they do go on their honeymoon. The day is filled with activities. But what about night? Again, it comes down to the fact that she'll have to spend the night with him, in the same bed.

I think she has some severe trauma from her first experiences and she has suppressed it for SO long but now it's in danger of coming out.

If this isn't the case, then I don't know what can justify Babita's behavior.

You are completely thinking in the same direction as I am. I don’t think Ashok ever was considerate of her needs. Did he even ask her if she was ready? I mean she was just 18. It would completely make sense if she wasn't ready. Did he pressure her, force her? She got pregnant right away. As a matter of fact, did she even want a baby at that point? Why didn’t they use contraceptive? Did Ashok show her that he was sexually attracted to her after Minnie was born? Does she fear that once she gives in and gets intimate with HS, he will stop desiring her sexually? (I am not saying HS would, I am talking about Babita’s fear)

If the writers are going this direction, I completely understand Babita’s fear and insecurities, but writers are not doing a very good job of showing all this. We need more introspection onto Babita’s thoughts and feelings. At least show us that she is affected by HS but is holding herself back because of all these fears and insecurities she has. Show us something to tell us that she desires HS, but she gets triggered by her past experiences so is holding helself back. Kuch toh dikhao 🙄

Yes, kuch to dikhao, at least some nervousness or something in private as she introspects.

I was just watching the beginning of episode 206 where HS opens the door to his mother's room. How mind-blowing was Aniruddh there!

Oh my god!

What a heartbreakingly beautiful scene! I fell a little more in love with HS, and even NB, there. ... uff! There is so much depth there and shown so beautifully.

To have opened it to welcome his lady love in that room, yet to have to shut it and himself in order to prevent Babita suffering as his mother did and also because she is nowhere near ready to see this side of his or be his confidante ...

I don't even know when or if she will step up. Perhaps she never will and HS is destined to live with Babita remaining this way. Perhaps she will never understand him at that level, the way Minnie or NB or Lala do, she hasn't ever thought to learn more about him. I am not sure why they are going this way with Babita's track but at this point I can't imagine her being anywhere close to being his life partner in that sense. It seems as if it's just her life, not theirs, and perhaps HS was right to feel scared about their joint kismat.