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norzar

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Posted: 13 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: paradigm
I hope they show a possessive and passionate Kunal not an obsessive Kunal

we will see a mix i believe

but siddhi wont be able to figure out why he is doing all this

she wont understand he still loves her

norzar

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cooldipika

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Posted: 13 years ago

#12

norzar ...kunal is mad wid rage at the moment ...he still has this MU in his mind dat siddhi left him for status nd money ...nd is happy with some other man now ,atleast he assumes this ...he is trying hard to convince himself dat he hates her nd wants to take a revenge from her but fact remains he still loves her deeply ...had this not been da case he wiould never have returned to da job in da first place after finding out siddhi is his boss ...siddhi still affects him alot ...only she has the power to affect him this much ...as some have rightly said kunal is a man of extremes ...wen he loves it is with his full heart nd soul nd is same goes for his hatred too ...its his love for siddhi which is making him behave dis way ...though yesterday his dialouges towards siddhi were completly unpardonable nd can never be justified ...as for his bharoi bharkam dialouges ...well he all know kunal is just good at saying such heavy dialouges wen it comes for action he fails bigg time...this idiom ...jo garajte hain woh baraste nahin ...seems to go really well with his character ...so right now he is talking of ruining siddhi 's life ...leaving her nowhere ...but just let him come to know da reality ...he will literally hate himself for saying such things...

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norzar

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Posted: 13 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: cooldipika
norzar ...kunal is mad wid rage at the moment ...he still has this MU in his mind dat siddhi left him for status nd money ...nd is happy with some other man now ,atleast he assumes this ...he is trying hard to convince himself dat he hates her nd wants to take a revenge from her but fact remains he still loves her deeply ...had this not been da case he wiould never have returned to da job in da first place after finding out siddhi is his boss ...siddhi still affects him alot ...only she has the power to affect him this much ...as some have rightly said kunal is a man of extremes ...wen he loves it is with his full heart nd soul nd is same goes for his hatred too ...its his love for siddhi which is making him behave dis way ...though yesterday his dialouges towards siddhi were completly unpardonable nd can never be justified ...as for his bharoi bharkam dialouges ...well he all know kunal is just good at saying such heavy dialouges wen it comes for action he fails bigg time...this idiom ...jo garajte hain woh baraste nahin ...seems to go really well with his character ...so right now he is talking of ruining siddhi 's life ...leaving her nowhere ...but just let him come to know da reality ...he will literally hate himself for saying such things...

yup i am waiting to know how he reacts when he gets to know the truth.

norzar

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StrangeStories

@StrangeStories

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Posted: 13 years ago

#14

Originally posted by: norzar
Thanks for writing such a detailed explanation. I actually felt a little better after reading your views.

The promo indeed show kunal's jealousy seeing siddhi with abhay, however we need to wait and see what he ends up doing exactly after seeing there dance. Him taunting and insulting her again will just add on to they mu's. he needs to be honest with himself that he is jealous.

I believe the hurtful words he said to siddhi last fri was after he getting to know from the guy that siddhi stays with abhay in his house and abhay cares for her. ( his jealousy already started secretly. we saw him raising his eyebrow. hahah). But if he would have not incl anand's name and not called her characterless indirectly, i would have have not been mad at him yesterday

just curious, if ever siddhi asks for forgiveness and says to kunal for what she did 9 yrs back ie betraying him ( his pov), will he forgive her and take her back?

norzar

Thanks, I'm glad I got you feeling better. Its been long since I saw a post that got me to think :)

I can clearly see the fact that Kunal is in denial that he still has feelings for Siddhi. When Seema taunted him saying that he still loves Siddhi unconditionally, he instantly rebuked her claims and tried to convince her as well as himself that he hated Siddhi. I mean, what else can justify him seething with jealousy when he sees Siddhi with Abhay. He says he hates her, claims that she is using Abhay for his money so why should he be bothered if she is dancing with him or Abhay is touching her, and obviously his "Mere ilawa Siddhi ko koi nahi choo sakta" says a lot in itself.

Good point about his jealousy rising from the moment he heard about Siddhi living with Abhay, his mothers relationship with Siddhi, and how the relationship status between Abhay and Siddhi was unclear. No wonder Kunal was fuming from within, and that jealousy came oozing out in his malicious words to Siddhi.

Personally, I feel that if Siddhi was to ask for forgiveness at this point of time, Kunal would misinterpret it and think she is trying to play games with him, mainly because they just met, Kunal thinks Siddhi has become hi fi, is manipulating Abhay for his money and he also believes that she didn't bother coming to see them after she got out of jail, so according to him, Siddhi came out of jail and went onto trap a guy for her comfort and luxury. But if they show Kunal and Siddhi working together, and Siddhi unconsciously doing things where she shows her care/concern for Kunal, it might lead Kunal to let down his defenses, and if she possibly apologizes to him later, he will possibly be able to forgive her and accept her again because he knows that she IS his life and whether it be his love or hate for her, he just cannot see beyond her. This is why I feel the office track should have really subtle moments between them for both of them to realize that 9 years later, their love for each other hasn't fainted in the slightest.

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jay_bpm

@jay_bpm

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Posted: 13 years ago

#15

I don't want to go in too much detail as Deepa gave wonderful analysis👏

As I have said, Kunal is kidding himself big time if he think he can hate or take revenge from Siddhi. Fact is Siddhi matters to him more than anything. No one, I mean not even his son and family could get him little better as he took few steps back after Siddhi left him. This time no Thakral was in his way from working or loss of money in family. But simply no Siddhi just ruined it. He loves Siddhi so much that her one words has more impact on him than what entire world and even his family has to say.

He can not think of a life where Siddhi is not there. It is just not possible for him. He walked right back into that office as he wants to be around Siddhi. He wants Siddhi to be part of his life and more importantly be part of her life. That's why he said i am not leaving even if you say so.

About forgiveness, I will quote Spider man 3 - you start with the hardest thing, forgiving your self. I don't think Kunal forgave himself for losing the case. Deep down even if he believes Sidhdi changed is because of his incompetency to provide money and status to Siddhi.

We know how much Kunal loves blaming and hurting himself. So I think he has not forgiven himself for whatever happened with Siddhi, hence so much self-destruction and much more to come.

Just my POV, still think some crucial points are missing but what am I gonna do...

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norzar

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Posted: 13 years ago

#16

Originally posted by: DeepShadow

Thanks, I'm glad I got you feeling better. Its been long since I saw a post that got me to think :)

I can clearly see the fact that Kunal is in denial that he still has feelings for Siddhi. When Seema taunted him saying that he still loves Siddhi unconditionally, he instantly rebuked her claims and tried to convince her as well as himself that he hated Siddhi. I mean, what else can justify him seething with jealousy when he sees Siddhi with Abhay. He says he hates her, claims that she is using Abhay for his money so why should he be bothered if she is dancing with him or Abhay is touching her, and obviously his "Mere ilawa Siddhi ko koi nahi choo sakta" says a lot in itself.

Good point about his jealousy rising from the moment he heard about Siddhi living with Abhay, his mothers relationship with Siddhi, and how the relationship status between Abhay and Siddhi was unclear. No wonder Kunal was fuming from within, and that jealousy came oozing out in his malicious words to Siddhi.

Personally, I feel that if Siddhi was to ask for forgiveness at this point of time, Kunal would misinterpret it and think she is trying to play games with him, mainly because they just met, Kunal thinks Siddhi has become hi fi, is manipulating Abhay for his money and he also believes that she didn't bother coming to see them after she got out of jail, so according to him, Siddhi came out of jail and went onto trap a guy for her comfort and luxury. But if they show Kunal and Siddhi working together, and Siddhi unconsciously doing things where she shows her care/concern for Kunal, it might lead Kunal to let down his defenses, and if she possibly apologizes to him later, he will possibly be able to forgive her and accept her again because he knows that she IS his life and whether it be his love or hate for her, he just cannot see beyond her. This is why I feel the office track should have really subtle moments between them for both of them to realize that 9 years later, their love for each other hasn't fainted in the slightest.

i wasnt able to figure out why kunal is not letting go of siddhi and not letting her be. your answers/comments surely make sense. and i am able to understand his pov better.

I want to see how thurs promo scene turns up to be shown in the episode. The sbs /e24 seg got me more curious, bec both showed us SS bytes reg kunal getting jealous seeing siddhi-abhay. i want to see what it leads too. Does his defences start to fall or he starts to behave even more nasty? bec i feel if the promo is true ie NOT a dream then it could go either way, benefiting sinal or causing further destruction for both?

The fact that he could have quit the job permanently with dignity and told abhay reg sidhi in the first instance ( ie that she is betrayed him and was married to him yrs back etc), but he didnt do that. Seema used Siddhi's name to convince him to go back and kc took it up as a challenge that he would face Siddhi and fight with her. Thats says it all that he is back to the job for siddhi and only siddhi. Nothing else matters to him. Even the vamp pointed out she wished she was the reason for why kunal went back to working again. hahha

i agree with what you have said reg the forgiving part, hopefully the track will be executed well where we will see some nice moments between sinal where both will gradually realises that the other one loves them still. they can combine it with various shades

norzar

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vidhisalot

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Posted: 13 years ago

#17

Everyone must be knowing that a coin has two sides..

Likewise...the question can be otherway round also

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Mages

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Posted: 13 years ago

#18

kunal's hatred for siddhi is all fake...he loves her deeply...if he comes back to the office and agree to work with siddhi is becos he wants to be around her...he wants to be with her...he is fooling himself making himself believe that he hates siddhi...but the truth is he is madly in love with her...and want to leave no chance to leave her alone...he wants to be infront of her 24/7...

to be honest...kunal is obsessed with siddhi...i could see a madness...obsession in his eyes for siddhi...the pain he suffered when siddhi left him have become a obsession for him...thats why in the promo...he reacted in such a way in his drunken state and we all know when he is drunk...his inner feelings pours out...such madness...such obsession was never seen when richa left him 15 years back...this proves that he loves siddhi the most...only siddhi affects him the most...he is angry...hurt...and obsessed with siddhi that makes him react in such a way...he wants to hurt siddhi and give a pain...but then he will feel more pain than siddhi becos he is madly in love with siddhi...he is deeply obsessed with her...

when i saw the promo/sbs seg...he was so drunk...and when he pulls siddhi closer to him...i saw a madness...a obsession in his eyes that gave me a goosebumps...i don't know siddhi is able to see his obsession...but i cealry could view it...seriously he can do anything for siddhi...he can give up his life for her or even take someone's life for her...