pata nahi yaar - Page 5

Originally posted by: GrilledCheese

shiva doesn't wash his dirty linen in public so I don't think he will break down in front of everyone.. just hope it is more of anger and less of heart break though 😆

Right only Raavi does that

Fingers crossed on tomorrows episode 😳

This is what I feel will happen:

After Raavi's public accusation on Shiva on auspicious occasion , Dhara/Gaumbi will scold on Raavi about her behavior and put some sense to her.

"Raavi, Tumhe baat karni chahiye use, iss taraf nahi chalte rishte, tumhe use apni baat kehneka mauka dena chahiye" [Gaumbi/Dhara will left the scene and go to Shiva

Raavi will realize her mistake and go behind Gaumbi/Dhara. By the time she reach, she will hear a conversation between Shiva and Gaumbi/Dhara where Shiva will try to explain everything. [considering the fact that he shares everything with his dharabhabhi or gaumbi]

Raavi will realize where she is wrong. Once Gaumbi/Dhara left, she will confront Shiva and then Shiva will burst out.

I have strong feeling this misunderstanding will solve tomorrow. we will see.

I have a slightly different take on this... And I hope I'm not alienating anyone!

I totally agree that Raavi is a childlike character. She has a lot of growing up to do, and a lot of maturing to do. I agree. However, I don't think her anger towards Shiva is totally unjustified, nor do I think that it doesn't make sense that she isn't angry at Dev.

Shiva has not given Raavi a single reason to trust him, in my opinion. From childhood, he has done nothing but spew undeserved anger at her for being related to Prafulla, and while I'm not saying that Raavi is a complete bechari, I can't deny that Shiva has not been fair to her either. And the family that tells Raavi that Shiva isn't like that, is the same family that consciously lied to Raavi and brought her all the way to the mandap just to humiliate her in front of everyone. I can't help but think that if I were Raavi in that situation, I would have MAJOR trust issues with everyone in that family. The Pandyas have to realize that after everything, Raavi will not be willing to hand out her trust just like that. And Shiva has to realize that as well, and get over his complex of not thinking that he is answerable to her. Because he is. He married her, for goodness' sake.

To Raavi, Dev is irrelevant. He became irrelevant to her the day he discarded her after years of so-called "friendship". Her full focus of her anger is on Shiva, whom she still thinks married her to exact revenge on her (for whatever insane reason she thinks that). Had Shiva never said yes to marrying her, she never would've been put in the situation of having to marry him.

I just think that ITV has a habit of giving the endless benefit of doubt to male leads that spew anger and hate towards the female leads, saying that the FL will "fix" the ML and his trust issues and that the ML "just needs time", but the second the FL does something similar, she is rebuked for not being sensitive enough, for not being mature enough, for not being understanding enough. And I don't really appreciate that double standard.

Originally posted by: tintin1234

This is what I feel will happen:

After Raavi's public accusation on Shiva on auspicious occasion , Dhara/Gaumbi will scold on Raavi about her behavior and put some sense to her.

"Raavi, Tumhe baat karni chahiye use, iss taraf nahi chalte rishte, tumhe use apni baat kehneka mauka dena chahiye" [Gaumbi/Dhara will left the scene and go to Shiva

Raavi will realize her mistake and go behind Gaumbi/Dhara. By the time she reach, she will hear a conversation between Shiva and Gaumbi/Dhara where Shiva will try to explain everything. [considering the fact that he shares everything with his dharabhabhi or gaumbi]

Raavi will realize where she is wrong. Once Gaumbi/Dhara left, she will confront Shiva and then Shiva will burst out.

I have strong feeling this misunderstanding will solve tomorrow. we will see.

Hopeful scenario, if it goes that way then it will be so good, at least MU toh khatam ho jayegi

Originally posted by: journalgirl321

I have a slightly different take on this... And I hope I'm not alienating anyone!

I totally agree that Raavi is a childlike character. She has a lot of growing up to do, and a lot of maturing to do. I agree. However, I don't think her anger towards Shiva is totally unjustified, nor do I think that it doesn't make sense that she isn't angry at Dev.

Shiva has not given Raavi a single reason to trust him, in my opinion. From childhood, he has done nothing but spew undeserved anger at her for being related to Prafulla, and while I'm not saying that Raavi is a complete bechari, I can't deny that Shiva has not been fair to her either. And the family that tells Raavi that Shiva isn't like that, is the same family that consciously lied to Raavi and brought her all the way to the mandap just to humiliate her in front of everyone. I can't help but think that if I were Raavi in that situation, I would have MAJOR trust issues with everyone in that family. The Pandyas have to realize that after everything, Raavi will not be willing to hand out her trust just like that. And Shiva has to realize that as well, and get over his complex of not thinking that he is answerable to her. Because he is. He married her, for goodness' sake.

To Raavi, Dev is irrelevant. He became irrelevant to her the day he discarded her after years of so-called "friendship". Her full focus of her anger is on Shiva, whom she still thinks married her to exact revenge on her (for whatever insane reason she thinks that). Had Shiva never said yes to marry her, she never would've been put in the situation of having to marry him.

I just think that ITV has a habit of giving the endless benefit of doubt to male leads that spew anger and hate towards the female leads, saying that the FL will "fix" the ML and his trust issues and that the ML "just needs time", but the second the FL does something similar, she is rebuked for not being sensitive enough, for not being mature enough, for not being understanding enough. And I don't really appreciate that double standard.

@bold: I completely forgot about that 😵

Now this is enlightening, all this while I've been thinking on his side but never once on thought about her trust being crushed by the family, damn

Thank you for this ❤️

I get it, don't get me wrong, Raavi absolutely deserves to be angry at Shiva. and by extension Pandya family. Im not going to argue that point cause you are right

but I actually don't believe that Dev has become irrelevant. I'll go ahead and agree tht maybe she's not thinking about him and what he did right now because she's so focused on Shiva but (and from my personal experience) even if you stop caring about a person if they did you some type of wrong, it's not something that can just easily be forgotten even if they are metaphorically dead to you.

Originally posted by: journalgirl321

I have a slightly different take on this... And I hope I'm not alienating anyone!

I totally agree that Raavi is a childlike character. She has a lot of growing up to do, and a lot of maturing to do. I agree. However, I don't think her anger towards Shiva is totally unjustified, nor do I think that it doesn't make sense that she isn't angry at Dev.

Shiva has not given Raavi a single reason to trust him, in my opinion. From childhood, he has done nothing but spew undeserved anger at her for being related to Prafulla, and while I'm not saying that Raavi is a complete bechari, I can't deny that Shiva has not been fair to her either. And the family that tells Raavi that Shiva isn't like that, is the same family that consciously lied to Raavi and brought her all the way to the mandap just to humiliate her in front of everyone. I can't help but think that if I were Raavi in that situation, I would have MAJOR trust issues with everyone in that family. The Pandyas have to realize that after everything, Raavi will not be willing to hand out her trust just like that. And Shiva has to realize that as well, and get over his complex of not thinking that he is answerable to her. Because he is. He married her, for goodness' sake.

To Raavi, Dev is irrelevant. He became irrelevant to her the day he discarded her after years of so-called "friendship". Her full focus of her anger is on Shiva, whom she still thinks married her to exact revenge on her (for whatever insane reason she thinks that). Had Shiva never said yes to marry her, she never would've been put in the situation of having to marry him.

I just think that ITV has a habit of giving the endless benefit of doubt to male leads that spew anger and hate towards the female leads, saying that the FL will "fix" the ML and his trust issues and that the ML "just needs time", but the second the FL does something similar, she is rebuked for not being sensitive enough, for not being mature enough, for not being understanding enough. And I don't really appreciate that double standard.

Originally posted by: ms.ObseSSeD

I get it, don't get me wrong, Raavi absolutely deserves to be angry at Shiva. and by extension Pandya family. Im not going to argue that point cause you are right

but I actually don't believe that Dev has become irrelevant. I'll go ahead and agree tht maybe she's not thinking about him and what he did right now because she's so focused on Shiva but (and from my personal experience) even if you stop caring about a person if they did you some type of wrong, it's not something that can just easily be forgotten even if they are metaphorically dead to you.

Sorry to butt in but I'm guessing that she's not really thinking about it now, like literary, she's either so focused on what's happened during the kidnap track or maybe she just blocked out what Dev did to her and put it at the back of her head, when Dev interacts directly with her then we'll get to know where Dev stands

Originally posted by: ms.ObseSSeD

I get it, don't get me wrong, Raavi absolutely deserves to be angry at Shiva. and by extension Pandya family. Im not going to argue that point cause you are right

but I actually don't believe that Dev has become irrelevant. I'll go ahead and agree tht maybe she's not thinking about him and what he did right now because she's so focused on Shiva but (and from my personal experience) even if you stop caring about a person if they did you some type of wrong, it's not something that can just easily be forgotten even if they are metaphorically dead to you.

You make a good point! I guess maybe he is irrelevant to her in the moment, because like you said, she's too busy being mad at Shiva? A potential possibility is that she has shoved her anger and sadness regarding him very far down because she doesn't want to confront it? It's a question that certainly has merit, and it has confused me as well. I am waiting for a scene where Dev and Raavi actually have a conversation because that conflict is far from being resolved. I appreciated the regional shows, wherein Dev's counterparts were shown to have a lot of guilt regarding the situation, as opposed to this Dev, whose "guilt"/"shame" seems performative, considering that it only seems to come out around the family, but not behind closed doors.

Originally posted by: journalgirl321

You make a good point! I guess maybe he is irrelevant to her in the moment, because like you said, she's too busy being mad at Shiva? A potential possibility is that she has shoved her anger and sadness regarding him very far down because she doesn't want to confront it? It's a question that certainly has merit, and it has confused me as well. I am waiting for a scene where Dev and Raavi actually have a conversation because that conflict is far from being resolved. I appreciated the regional shows, wherein Dev's counterparts were shown to have a lot of guilt regarding the situation, as opposed to this Dev, whose "guilt"/"shame" seems performative, considering that it only seems to come out around the family, but not behind closed doors.

Yes and also Raavi's character actually showed her anger towards Dev (Shiva also, but not always) and since she showed her disappointment and anger towards the person who caused it she had a closure, accepted her situation and moved on with it

Trust the angsty/sad episode to bring out the active-IFer in me 😆