Qarz E Jaan (HUM) #4 - Usama, Nameer, Yumna | DT.N. Pg 136 - Page 53

Originally posted by: vdna

Yes, I see no strong reason - particularly with Burhan and Asim's support, she is going to have her job and earn money as they can't be threatened to remove her from work. Also, as a lawyer, I think Nashwa should also fight for her father's share of money to come to her mom and her. The old lady and her son should have no control on that money. I hope the story is about taking that family down and punishing each member for their crimes and not Nashwa becoming Bisma 2.0 and then eventually falling for Amaar. that would suck cos her behavior with him after the rape allegation kind of gives me more of bro-sis vibe ..like disgust but not fear ..just like beenish is with amaar ..so very puky to consider marriage!

So agree. I can't fathom the idea of making fl marry a rapist when she has many other ways to avoid it.

Just threatening bakthiyar family with reopening his case would be enough.

Originally posted by: Stormborn01

Nashwa is not independent yet. She couldn’t even pursue her education or a job without the elders in the family allowing her to do so, woh bhi after a lot of groveling and begging. Bi Jaan, Asim and Burhan aren’t people she can financially count on since they are still very much outsiders. Her mother still treats Asim like a stranger.

She’s educated but she’s been surrounded by toxicity her whole life. Maheen’s case is the one we, the audience, are witnessing. But this isn’t Ammar’s first crime. What is shocking for us is something that’s been normalised in that household as Ammar just being Ammar. Be it drugs or bigger crimes. He has ALWAYS been trouble. Criminal history pehle se hai long before Maheen even happened.

I feel we are expecting reactions from these characters as if these are normal people. En main se koi bhi normal nahi hai, including Nashwa and Bisma. They’re all carrying a massive baggage.

She may not independent but she has a job no.

I understand she can't count on asim, beejan, burhan financially now. But didn't she want to marry her mother to asim. Then won't asim become their family. So isn't taking help from asim better option than marrying a rapist.

Originally posted by: pilot100

From the promo, it is very certain that Nashwa will marry Ammar. Otherwise why on earth,will she be in his room in a bridal dress. And she looks dejected too.

I really hope they show a strong reason. I can't believe, Bisma will happily get married to Asim putting Nashwa life at stake

Originally posted by: Sparkle232

She may not independent but she has a job no.

I understand she can't count on asim, beejan, burhan financially now. But didn't she want to marry her mother to asim. Then won't asim become their family. So isn't taking help from asim better option than marrying a rapist.

Asim will become her family only IF that marriage is allowed to happen first which we know it won’t. Because of Barkat Bibi. And this Nashwa-Ammar marriage is the condition/compromise either Nashwa will set or her Dadi.

these two weddings will be an exchange deal otherwise NEITHER will happen. Nashwa will sacrifice herself for her mother. She probably won’t even let Bisma know she’s unhappy about this. All she wants is a way to get her mother out of that house.

As for her job Abhi tak pehli pay tou ayi nahi hai Nashwa ki jis se AC lena hai. So idk

Originally posted by: Stormborn01

Asim will become her family only IF that marriage is allowed to happen first which we know it won’t. Because of Barkat Bibi. And this Nashwa-Ammar marriage is the condition/compromise either Nashwa will set or her Dadi.

these two weddings will be an exchange deal otherwise NEITHER will happen. Nashwa will sacrifice herself for her mother. She probably won’t even let Bisma know she’s unhappy about this. All she wants is a way to get her mother out of that house.

As for her job Abhi tak pehli pay tou ayi nahi hai Nashwa ki jis se AC lena hai. So idk

Originally posted by: Sparkle232

@bold why so? Asim bisma are adults. They are allowed to marry legally. On which ground anyone can stop the marriage from happening. All nashwa had to do is telling asim, marry my mother. He is so ready to do it.

Exactly, how the hell can Bakhtiyar and Dado hold bisma and Nashwa into ransom. They are adult's and they can definitely get married to someone of their choice. Infant Nashwa has to only blackmail them about Ammars case..

God this will be stupid. I really hope this is not the reason. Buy I just can't think of any other reason.

Bur some scenes even indicate,Bashwa will fight for Ammar. Because she Goes with him I'm the car, plus she visits him in jail

Originally posted by: Sparkle232

@bold why so? Asim bisma are adults. They are allowed to marry legally. On which ground anyone can stop the marriage from happening. All nashwa had to do is telling asim, marry my mother. He is so ready to do it.

Bisma’s character isn’t such that she would suddenly make this huge decision without the approval of everyone around her. She’s scared to even go out with Asim, aur aap ko lagta hai woh uth ke shaadi ker legi. It doesn’t sound like her. Asim for sure can do it but Bisma isn’t getting married unless it’s been approved of and stamped by that family she feels so indebted to.

Originally posted by: pilot100

Exactly, how the hell can Bakhtiyar and Dado hold bisma and Nashwa into ransom. They are adult's and they can definitely get married to someone of their choice. Infant Nashwa has to only blackmail them about Ammars case..

God this will be stupid. I really hope this is not the reason. Buy I just can't think of any other reason.

Bur some scenes even indicate,Bashwa will fight for Ammar. Because she Goes with him I'm the car, plus she visits him in jail

Neither Bisma or Nashwa need to marry to survive. Asim and bijaan will allow them to move in with them even without marriage. Bisma and Nashwa can stay there for few years till Nashwa has a solid earning.

Asim Bisma marrying can happen without needing any permission.

Nashwa should threaten them with going to the media with Ammar's case if they want to block Asim Bisma marriage or refuse to give her father's share of property to her!

Simple.

How can two people with upper hand be in this position lol?

Literally all they have to do is grab their essentials like certificates and IDs and just leave that hole.

The writer better step up.

The characters are super interesting and layered. I'm loving the story so far but I wonder if they'll deliver.

They should have never shown Ammar as an enabler if they were to clear his name or just show he had complexes growing up.

There is no excuse of being an enabler of the worst crime.

I really like his character layers so far.

Hopefully they deliver.

Originally posted by: Stormborn01

It’s frustrating because we as the audience want these women to react how normal people would react to such a criminal. But this isn’t a normal household. It’s a criminal and toxic household where Bisma and Nashwa have been suppressed and controlled for decades. They’re all flawed characters, burdened by their past traumas. Even when we see them try, they’re immediately shut down. So acceptance and minding their own business is part of daily survival for them. Ammar is an untouchable for Nashwa. Going against the aakhri waaris of their messed up family is like beckoning hell upon herself and her mother.

Well said. While I understand they can easily leave with support of Asim and co, it's been decades of abuse. And while they're bad they're still family. Even after the hate there is love. It's twisted.

People often see in black and white and in linear.

Trauma healing is not linear in life. People often relapse. I wish some viewers had that grace and patience in their heart to understand that.

But in any case the writer needs to stand up.

The characters and their interactions are so dynamic that their mundane daily household interactions is super engaging!

I was hooked up till episode 14. I had a bit of a disconnect in 15 and it picked up in 16 again

My favourite line from this drama is when Burhan tells Bisma that mene ap ko Bina dekhe Bina sune Ma mana hai.

Gold standard that is.

Though unrealistic lol.

Also, I'm major missing Sana. Maheen and the Saba actress did so well. Har kisi ne apni kirdar ko 150 percent di.

I still have shikwa with Usama's performance. I know it's his best and he gave it his best but it doesn't measure up to what the others are doing or the mayar of his character. Character ki mayar pe nahi utra

I even miss Bari Sahab.

I miss his chai and that silly gupahup and commentary on women in law

Originally posted by: Stormborn01

Bisma’s character isn’t such that she would suddenly make this huge decision without the approval of everyone around her. She’s scared to even go out with Asim, aur aap ko lagta hai woh uth ke shaadi ker legi. It doesn’t sound like her. Asim for sure can do it but Bisma isn’t getting married unless it’s been approved of and stamped by that family she feels so indebted to.

Is getting that family approval so much important to her than saving her daughter's life when that so called family making her marry a rapist?

If ammar nashwa marriage topic can't make her get the courage to marry asim then I have absolutely no words.