Qarz E Jaan (HUM) #4 - Usama, Nameer, Yumna | DT.N. Pg 136 - Page 41

Originally posted by: nightingale1234

@bold,

Ammar seems to have no choice; he’s being blackmailed by his father. I think in the later episodes, he’ll eventually agree to the marriage, believing that by doing so, he can put an end to the Maheen case. He likely thinks that once he marries her, she’ll drop the case and Burhan will back off.

As for Nashwa, it’s unclear how she would agree to the marriage. It probably has something to do with her mom, but if it’s about her mom marrying Asim, that would feel like a weak twist. If Bisma decides to marry Asim, no matter what anyone else thinks, this family can’t really stop her. Nashwa sacrificing herself doesn’t seem to make much sense in that context.

It will kinda ruin nashwa character if she agrees to marry a man (despite knowing his crime) with the excuse of getting her mother married. Both asim and bisma are adults who are free to marry. So if nashwa being a lawyer does this stupidity then it will be so disappointing.

I hope makers have some good justification behind her saying yes. She is very well written and relatable character till now.

Originally posted by: Sparkle232

It will kinda ruin nashwa character if she agrees to marry a man (despite knowing his crime) with the excuse of getting her mother married. Both asim and bisma are adults who are free to marry. So if nashwa being a lawyer does this stupidity then it will be so disappointing.

I hope makers have some good justification behind her saying yes. She is very well written and relatable character till now.

Exactly my point. It's not that asim n bisma are kids , they are adults n if they decide to get married, none can stop them. Asim is quite vocal about that in today's episode. But, bisma is being stubborn. I think the possibility of nashwa getting married to ammar will trigger her.

If nashwa marries ammar, I hope there's proper justification n not some lame sacrifice for mommy to get married to asim uncle.

Originally posted by: nightingale1234

I can totally relate to Asim's frustration. How much more can one person tolerate? He’s been trying to make Bisma see reason for ages, but it feels like she’s just not getting it. He was deeply in love with her, even willing to take Nashwa with them, but she refused to leave Barkhat Villa because she was too worried about what Maa Ji would think or what people would say. Everything they’re going through right now is because of her overthinking.

I really hope that for once, she stands her ground and refuses this marriage. She has Asim and Beejaan supporting her now. The worst that could happen is they get thrown out, but with Asim and Beejaan behind them, they don’t have to fear that.

I can still not understand her logic. She made me angry with her dialogues like kaidi something where she indirectly defending that criminal family by saying they gave her shelter.

Because it's not just her, her daughter too suffering. She is treated as maid, getting molested by a creepy man, her daughter was given leftover clothes and food. Now she even knows that house has another rapist. Still she thinks that house is best place for her and daughter? I am unable to sympathize with her here.

If she really has no way out then I get it. But there is asim who can give better life to her and her daughter. Still she defends that family whenever asim or nashwa talks against them.

Originally posted by: nightingale1234

I saw some in insta calling her haddi, blockage etc. I heard amna's take n she's completely right. If I were burhan's mom, n I was given a choice between nashwa n faryal, I would definitely choose faryal over nashwa in the current circumstance. That girl is kind, confident, ambitious , good-looking n moreover no baggage n problematic household like nashwa. Her character is like the end goal for nashwa's character.

I kinda disliked her only when she discussed bisma asim marriage that too with good intentions.

She won my heart today when she was concerned for nashwa hearing her marriage proposal with ammar.

@bold That's reason why asim wants burhan to marry faryal and dismissive of beejan's suggestion of burhan nashwa marriage. He is completely right at his place especially when he doesn't know the fact that b-n like each other.

Originally posted by: blahblah131

Actually that's Burhan's room. There was a breakdown scene of B in teasers and his room has the same green wall paint

If they show him marrying faryal n then ignoring her, that would be a great injustice to a strong woman like her.

Originally posted by: Sparkle232

I can still not understand her logic. She made me angry with her dialogues like kaidi something where she indirectly defending that criminal family by saying they gave her shelter.

Because it's not just her, her daughter too suffering. She is treated as maid, getting molested by a creepy man, her daughter was given leftover clothes and food. Now she even knows that house has another rapist. Still she thinks that house is best place for her and daughter? I am unable to sympathize with her here.

If she really has no way out then I get it. But there is asim who can give better life to her and her daughter. Still she defends that family whenever asim or nashwa talks against them.

Yes, I think it's kinda established now that, whatever the mother-daughter duo are facing today is because of bisma herself. She had multiple chances, but she didn't have the courage to step forward.

I can't believe how are everyone so cool with ammar! His father literally threatened him with maheen's ra*e n the boy's mother is so casual about it n asks her husband " apne bete ke sath kaise baat kar rahe hein". . Even nashwa, beenish are so normal with him. So weird!!

Originally posted by: nightingale1234

Yes, I think it's kinda established now that, whatever the mother-daughter duo are facing today is because of bisma herself. She had multiple chances, but she didn't have the courage to step forward.

I can't believe how are everyone so cool with ammar! His father literally threatened him with maheen's ra*e n the boy's mother is so casual about it n asks her husband " apne bete ke sath kaise baat kar rahe hein". . Even nashwa, beenish are so normal with him. So weird!!

@bold This part making me so uncomfortable. Especially nashwa and beenish being so cool with it. Nashwa herself saw maheen admitting ammar's crime. Still she didn't mind alerting faryal or her mother about it when there were talks about faryal ammar marriage. What if faryal said yes to marriage. Would nashwa let another girl marry a rape accused by not telling the girl about this.

I said this already ammar's portrayal and his surrounding characters behaviour towards him weakens the sensitivity of his crime.

Originally posted by: Alizba63

Damn. Good catch blah!

I just watched Today's episode and it's the guest room where Faryal's mom was lying down. Phew, Burhan and Faryal are not going to get married

Originally posted by: Alizba63

Nameer did well today. Voice needs work still. Ammar's sences had an impact. He appears alof but he seems to know his mom has no value or power in that house. He might register that his mother will be punished if he rejects this rishta and his dad was like blackmailing him.

Why did this father not do the right thing and make a report for Mahi right away? Such fathers are responsible for such sons. Now he is using it as a leverage.

Also, Ammar is an enabler no doubt. But let's watch the complex nature and mystery unfold. I hope they handle it well and not wash over things. I'm scared as Razia is not a very good writer

I feel some people should be cast as the mob from tan man neelo o neel. Let the due process take place. If you like court drama and have respect for Nashwa then one should know that there are rules and laws. Burhan talks about that.

At the same time I agree and respect street justice. Why? Because often time the law system... actually most of the time is set up to let rich well connected criminals and enablers to escape. It's a farce.

But still I'll wait and see where the drama takes us.

I'm so glad for two episodes.

@bold They never do in reality instead they do everything in their power to save their begri huiey aulad. We have so many real examples of this; The women in Karsaz who run over two people while driving drunk comes to mind. Not only her parents, her friends were also supporting her and she got out scotfree. Other examples that come to mind are Noor Mukddam and Shahzaib Case (Sharukh Jatoi)

Originally posted by: nightingale1234

@bold,

Ammar seems to have no choice; he’s being blackmailed by his father. I think in the later episodes, he’ll eventually agree to the marriage, believing that by doing so, he can put an end to the Maheen case. He likely thinks that once he marries her, she’ll drop the case and Burhan will back off.

As for Nashwa, it’s unclear how she would agree to the marriage. It probably has something to do with her mom, but if it’s about her mom marrying Asim, that would feel like a weak twist. If Bisma decides to marry Asim, no matter what anyone else thinks, this family can’t really stop her. Nashwa sacrificing herself doesn’t seem to make much sense in that context.

@bold It is not that simple. Bisma has been living under the thumb of her in-laws for all these years. She does not know her rights or believe that she deserves them. She feels indebted to them because they took care of her and Nashwa, when in reality, Nashwa, as their granddaughter, and Bisma, as Behzad’s widow, had a rightful claim to the money that belonged to him. The barrier for Bisma exists on a mental level.