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Posted: 5 months ago

Originally posted by: NINALOGY

What burhan is going to defend ammar 🥴

Has he lost it. I hope that they will not ruin this drama.

Yes It is confirmed that Burhan is going to defend Ammar. Usama confirmed from his tweet. Don't judge Burhan based on his decision. Even Namar revealed that it is only Burhan who will understand him.

I really think everyone is mad in this show..

What are your thoughts on Nashwa marrying Ammar. Can you think of any logical reason behind Burhan taking the case to defend Ammar

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Posted: 5 months ago

Originally posted by: pilot100

Yes It is confirmed that Burhan is going to defend Ammar. Usama confirmed from his tweet. Don't judge Burhan based on his decision. Even Namar revealed that it is only Burhan who will understand him.

I really think everyone is mad in this show..

What are your thoughts on Nashwa marrying Ammar. Can you think of any logical reason behind Burhan taking the case to defend Ammar

I am back with my predictions. He will make a deal with Bakthayer that in return for Ammar divorcing Nashwa, he will defend Amaar.

You need to specify the Khulla condition in the nikah that Bakthtayer would never do. This means that even if Amaar gets a life sentence, Nashwa would still stay married to him. It's a less conflicted way for him to get what he wants. What if Amar gets freedom and does not divorce her?. Burhan will do what Bakthtayer did and secure the divorce beforehand but it won't be revealed to the audience.


What is not making sense to is how will Nashwa go against her Amaar in this case, She married Amaar because she was afraid of her mother's life. Bisma will have to die or move abroad for it to make sense and she will never move abroad until Nashwa is in Pakistan.

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Posted: 5 months ago

Originally posted by: blahblah131

I am back with my predictions. He will make a deal with Bakthayer that in return for Ammar divorcing Nashwa, he will defend Amaar.

You need to specify the Khulla condition in the nikah that Bakthtayer would never do. This means that even if Amaar gets a life sentence, Nashwa would still stay married to him. It's a less conflicted way for him to get what he wants. What if Amar gets freedom and does not divorce her?. Burhan will do what Bakthtayer did and secure the divorce beforehand but it won't be revealed to the audience.


What is not making sense to is how will Nashwa go against her Amaar in this case, She married Amaar because she was afraid of her mother's life. Bisma will have to die or move abroad for it to make sense and she will never move abroad until Nashwa is in Pakistan.

This is so stupid. So isn't this unethical, unprofessional and morally wrong for Burhan to defend Ammar, just to get one girl. Also how can he be so confident on himself too, that he will win the case and Nashwa will lose the case. Isn't it injustice to Maheen, that he is defending a criminal 🤔 just for his own personal agenda. Also how can he trust Bakhtiyar and Ammar, that they will let go off Nashwa so easily. What if they back out later.

Also, what makes him feel that Nashwa will marry him after getting divorced from Ammar. I am pretty sure, she will never Marry him after he defending a criminal for his own personal reasons. She has always given more importance to her Morals. That is the reason she goes against her own husband. She is going to start to hate him .

This just doesn't make sense.

I think maybe we are all wrong here. I think Nashwa will defend Ammar and Burhan will prosecute Ammar. This looks more logical

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Posted: 5 months ago

Originally posted by: pilot100

This is so stupid. So isn't this unethical, unprofessional and morally wrong for Burhan to defend Ammar, just to get one girl. Also how can he be so confident on himself too, that he will win the case and Nashwa will lose the case. Isn't it injustice to Maheen, that he is defending a criminal 🤔 just for his own personal agenda. Also how can he trust Bakhtiyar and Ammar, that they will let go off Nashwa so easily. What if they back out later.

Also, what makes him feel that Nashwa will marry him after getting divorced from Ammar. I am pretty sure, she will never Marry him after he defending a criminal for his own personal reasons. She has always given more importance to her Morals. That is the reason she goes against her own husband. She is going to start to hate him .

This just doesn't make sense.

I think maybe we are all wrong here. I think Nashwa will defend Ammar and Burhan will prosecute Ammar. This looks more logical

@bold Generally speaking about Lawyers, unka kaam he yehi hai, My father used to call lawyers "liars". Even if they know that the person is guilty they still defend the said person. It is part of their job and it's not considered unethical. Burhan is shown to be a hotshot lawyer and he couldn't have reached that point without defending criminals that he knew committed the crimes.

I was watching Adolescence on Netflix, no matter how big or small the crime is. They get assigned a lawyer and that service is free of cost. They can choose to hire their own lawyer as well. Jamie's(The criminal) lawyer says to him, it doesn't matter if you are guilty or not. My job is to defend you.

The first episode of Adolescence was incredible, I would recommend everyone to watch it

Posted: 5 months ago

Originally posted by: blahblah131

I am back with my predictions. He will make a deal with Bakthayer that in return for Ammar divorcing Nashwa, he will defend Amaar.

You need to specify the Khulla condition in the nikah that Bakthtayer would never do. This means that even if Amaar gets a life sentence, Nashwa would still stay married to him. It's a less conflicted way for him to get what he wants. What if Amar gets freedom and does not divorce her?. Burhan will do what Bakthtayer did and secure the divorce beforehand but it won't be revealed to the audience.


What is not making sense to is how will Nashwa go against her Amaar in this case, She married Amaar because she was afraid of her mother's life. Bisma will have to die or move abroad for it to make sense and she will never move abroad until Nashwa is in Pakistan.

Ooooo. That's a very interesting take. Like just take precautions like barey abbu. But there is no guarantee that he'll win the case though

Also, that will be sooo wrong of Burhan to do this to Mahi or any other being. That would make him worse than Ammar - an accused person and a potential enabler or an enabler. Will he do that for Nashwa? But then Nashwa will want justice for Mahi and when she'll find out what Burhan is doing for her, she'll be angry just like how her mom and everyone is angry at her for making that decision..

I mean I see Burhan taking the case because it came to him. Remember when Taya Abbu comes to his office initially to file in defense for Ammar.

I think both cases were lodged with Burhan's firm and Nashwa takes mahins and Burhan takes Ammar's.

Lawyers have no morality and they cannot really use morality in court. It asks for who presents their case better. There are always loopholes. Then how come in real life big industries, corporations and government never gets audited and enjoy and steal trillions of dollar literally from the public. No consequences. They have good lawyers! Lol

Morality really doesn't even apply I guess. They just take clients based on who comes to them or their availability. They get paid even when they lose. I wish the audience understood this. This awam is very black and white. I'm taking it this way. It's easier.

I'm going to get huge backlash and it's controversial but since the very beginning I knew one thing. The reason why everyone is treating Ammar so casually is because he is not the rapist or the killer.

The problem is with the writing. The writer knows the ending so she showed such casual behavior of everyone with him ( their behavior makes sense if he didn't do the crime. That's the only way otherwise it's crazy)...even Nashwa really doesn't avoid him. If I lived with an extended family member like that and we couldn't afford to move out and even if it was only a rumor then also I'd go to the washroom with someone and never be alone with that person..

Huge huge fault in writing!

Burhan will take the case not knowing but the writer does know I mean she wrote it. So, she'll show that Nashwa always looks at things at face value. She says things like uske shakal se criminal he pata chalta hai. That is the 101 dumb mistake as a lawyer.

But to what level Ammar enabled and hindered I'm waiting to see. Yeh to clear hai as we saw the taking to the club, the drink ,the taking to the room and all...I'm going to see how this unfolds. I'm curious how the team handles it. I think there might be flashbacks?

Honestly, the writing now has become problematic. The undertone was there now it's out in the open. I'm not having high hopes for court scenes.

I mean I'll be okay. I thoroughly enjoyed every scene up till episode 21. Then the next 3 were a bit of a repeat 25 and 26 were really good as well. I'm actually satisfied.

I mean in reality the good guys mostly don't win. Hence, why reality is unfair.

Also, is it really confirmed that Burhan will take the case? I still get a little confused but it keeps the mystery going.

I have no more energy to guess and it's a good thing it's all coming to and endsmiley36

Edited by Alizba63 - 5 months ago
Posted: 5 months ago

How many episodes are left for QEJ??

Posted: 5 months ago

Originally posted by: anikamathur

How many episodes are left for QEJ??

Anika!

I think about 6 more? They shot for 30. I'm thinking they'll milk it for two more.

Because they cannot just wrap up in four episodes.

Maybe next week is the ruksati and arrest episode?

I'm hoping they handle it wisely. The enablers are punished and people's crime or their degree of involvement is labeled appropriately.

Edited by minakrish - 5 months ago
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Posted: 5 months ago

Originally posted by: blahblah131

@bold Generally speaking about Lawyers, unka kaam he yehi hai, My father used to call lawyers "liars". Even if they know that the person is guilty they still defend the said person. It is part of their job and it's not considered unethical. Burhan is shown to be a hotshot lawyer and he couldn't have reached that point without defending criminals that he knew committed the crimes.

I was watching Adolescence on Netflix, no matter how big or small the crime is. They get assigned a lawyer and that service is free of cost. They can choose to hire their own lawyer as well. Jamie's(The criminal) lawyer says to him, it doesn't matter if you are guilty or not. My job is to defend you.

The first episode of Adolescence was incredible, I would recommend everyone to watch it

See this where Nashwa goodness comes into foray.She has always been morally right and that is why she doesn't care now and is going against her own husband because she truly wants justice for Maheen .

I have no problem in Burhan defending Ammar. What you say is right, it is his job to defend his client. Someone has to fight for Ammar too. If not Burhan, someone else would have taken up the case.

But what I have problem with, is the reason for him to take the case and defend Ammar. If he is taking the case just like any other regular case and treats and solves it like that, it's OK. Maybe he may feel that Ammar is innocent to some extent and hence he takes up the case. But if he takes this case because of Bakhtiyar and strikes a deal with him for Nashwa's freedom, That is unacceptable. Firstly because it is not only unethical but also morally wrong. You can't mix personal and professional life. Secondly, BAKHTIYAR and Ammar both cannot be trusted. Incase, even if he wins the case, What if they back out at last moment and refuse to give divorce to Nashwa? I don't think any contract can also be made for such conditions.

Thirdly, how confident can he be , that he will win the case. What if he loses the case. Does he have a back up plan for that?

Fourth, how on earth does he think that Nashwa will marry him after coming to know about his deal with Bakhtiyar. Do you think she will marry him who defended a criminal just for his own personal agenda. She Aldready doesn’t respect him. But now she will start hating him. She will never Marry him.

All I want to say is Burhan is free to take this case but he should treat it professionally. I don't want him to do all these deals and use it for his personal agenda.

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Posted: 5 months ago

Originally posted by: Alizba63

Ooooo. That's a very interesting take. Like just take precautions like barey abbu. But there is no guarantee that he'll win the case though

Also, that will be sooo wrong of Burhan to do this to Mahi or any other being. That would make him worse than Ammar - an accused person and a potential enabler or an enabler. Will he do that for Nashwa? But then Nashwa will want justice for Mahi and when she'll find out what Burhan is doing for her, she'll be angry just like how her mom and everyone is angry at her for making that decision..

I mean I see Burhan taking the case because it came to him. Remember when Taya Abbu comes to his office initially to file in defense for Ammar.

I think both cases were lodged with Burhan's firm and Nashwa takes mahins and Burhan takes Ammar's.

Lawyers have no morality and they cannot really use morality in court. It asks for who presents their case better. There are always loopholes. Then how come in real life big industries, corporations and government never gets audited and enjoy and steal trillions of dollar literally from the public. No consequences. They have good lawyers! Lol

Morality really doesn't even apply I guess. They just take clients based on who comes to them or their availability. They get paid even when they lose. I wish the audience understood this. This awam is very black and white. I'm taking it this way. It's easier.

I'm going to get huge backlash and it's controversial but since the very beginning I knew one thing. The reason why everyone is treating Ammar so casually is because he is not the rapist or the killer.

The problem is with the writing. The writer knows the ending so she showed such casual behavior of everyone with him ( their behavior makes sense if he didn't do the crime. That's the only way otherwise it's crazy)...even Nashwa really doesn't avoid him. If I lived with an extended family member like that and we couldn't afford to move out and even if it was only a rumor then also I'd go to the washroom with someone and never be alone with that person..

Huge huge fault in writing!

Burhan will take the case not knowing but the writer does know I mean she wrote it. So, she'll show that Nashwa always looks at things at face value. She says things like uske shakal se criminal he pata chalta hai. That is the 101 dumb mistake as a lawyer.

But to what level Ammar enabled and hindered I'm waiting to see. Yeh to clear hai as we saw the taking to the club, the drink ,the taking to the room and all...I'm going to see how this unfolds. I'm curious how the team handles it. I think there might be flashbacks?

Honestly, the writing now has become problematic. The undertone was there now it's out in the open. I'm not having high hopes for court scenes.

I mean I'll be okay. I thoroughly enjoyed every scene up till episode 21. Then the next 3 were a bit of a repeat 25 and 26 were really good as well. I'm actually satisfied.

I mean in reality the good guys mostly don't win. Hence, why reality is unfair.

Also, is it really confirmed that Burhan will take the case? I still get a little confused but it keeps the mystery going.

I have no more energy to guess and it's a good thing it's all coming to and endsmiley36

Burhan has never lost a case so far, that would be a risk that Barey Abu will have to take. It's confirmed from the teasers that Burhan takes up this case.

Why would it be wrong for Burhan to defend Amaar, he most have defended criminals in the past.

We can't Judge Nashwa from our point of morality. I wouldn't go to the washroom if someone like Amaar was roaming around but Nashwa isn't me. She is part of this weird family who get away with crimes and is desensitized to it.

From my observation, Amaar didn't commit the rape or the murder but he is still guilty. He left her to die which is worse. He was also blackmailing her on the phone with revenue p*rn.

Girl tell me about it, I also want to end it soon. Normally, if I get this obsessed with a show. I read up about the ending somewhere and be done with it. Every time this has happened, the show was based on a book or a manga.

Edited by blahblah131 - 5 months ago

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