PSF All Dramas TRP Thread #3 - Page 19

Originally posted by: KhaqONeal

I respect your perspective hypno. so could you explain how KMKT contributed to the good ratings for this show? for instance, do you think people who tuned in to last week's KMKT finale were specifically expecting a post-finale episode or they didn't realise their show had ended? what would the adjusted ratings excluding these viewers be? minus TRP of 2/3 ?

this whole post is about first episode ratings not subsequent epioses.

first of all i didn't say kmkt factor is only factor.

spillover effect matters.

to some extent, live tv viewing is about habit. in many families, they may be in the habit of keeping one channel on. or they are habituated to turning to the same channel at a given time. blockbuster shows especially matter to channel because they bring audiences to their channel which they hope to convert into habitual viewers. i know multiple families who used to have geo on but after the success of radd,nj, mayiri, baby baji on ary (and how badly geo shows drag) switched permanently to ary as their go-to channel. IM's blockbuster status gave many other hum shows a trp bump.

another type of spillover effect that matters are lead-ins and their popularity. if there is one popular show in 7-8 pm slot on channel x, people are more likely to watch the 8-9pm show on that channel. baby baji ki bahuwein is doing pretty well right now so that definitely plays a role in uplifting 8 pm trps on ary. In the US they have done studies that show that lead-ins matter for ratings.

another type of spillover effect is competition on other channels. Shows that go up against AIEJ (Aik Chubhan Si, Dil e Nadaan, are not competitive and there'll be less diversion of viewers to those shows.

Shows of course can get much higher ratings for e1 than that slot average in immediately previous months. but those are buzzy shows. GM got 3.8 on e1 which showed the power of buzz because that slot itself used to have low trps. but AIEJ did not have many views on teasers (on either YT or IG) or have huge buzz (I even checked Google search trends). If the show is breaking a life time TRP record on E1 but did not have high buzz, there has to be another factor driving high TRP.

Shows of course can also get drastically low TRP than what the slot got immediately prior. That happens if the previous show which ended was an anomaly in ratings. A show that follows KMKT or IM would never get a TRP equivalent to KMKT or IM in e1. Or if the show that ended had a premium cast and mass appeal, but the one that immediately followed has a cast or genre that is not appealing to mass audiences.

E1 TRPs are a combo of factors but spillover facts matters. Highly successful shows have impact on TRP that extends beyond the slot and beyond the time when they are on air.

After E1/2, its whether the content clicks or not that will determine future TRP.

Trps are not good but view wise SMD is already doing better than Wahaj’s last show, Mein. Some Mein episodes still haven’t touched 10M. I won’t be surprised if it’s total views surpass it . So Wahaj is doing his job of getting the views.

Originally posted by: MaxMayfield

But Nouman is currently pulling 14 plus trps.

Sherry pulled 14 as well.

Sorry for being misogynistic but only male leads get credit for trps..so they should take the fall for low trps too.

If Sherry caused people to watch AIEJ there would be a lot of buzz around him and the show pre-release. When Bismil started it got real buzz. Just look at Hareem and Nouman's google search trends score at start of Bismil. Now compare it to Sheheryar's score. If a show has so much pre-release buzz that it is breaking TRP records on E1, it would have showed up on some metric - be it views on teasers on IG or YT or in google search trends. But even views on AIEJ teasers were not high. I am not discarding Sherry's appeal. But based on available data, I don't see how it would've given you life time record breaking TRP on E1.

Bismil is working because of the story. It's not Hareem or Nouman or a star that is driving its TRP. Stars of course benefit from Bismil being so successful. Bismil is working because women are literally seeing it as a manual for how to tell if your husband is cheating on you.

Originally posted by: 2RsFan

Trps are not good but view wise SMD is already doing better than Wahaj’s last show, Mein. Some Mein episodes still haven’t touched 10M. I won’t be surprised if it’s total views surpass it . So Wahaj is doing his job of getting the views.

Can’t argue with the views. Only Danish and Feroze get these types of views. And now consistently Wahaj has done so as well. TB, MPHT, Mein and SMD.

Originally posted by: hypnotoad

this whole post is about first episode ratings not subsequent epioses.

first of all i didn't say kmkt factor is only factor.

spillover effect matters.

to some extent, live tv viewing is about habit. in many families, they may be in the habit of keeping one channel on. or they are habituated to turning to the same channel at a given time. blockbuster shows especially matter to channel because they bring audiences to their channel which they hope to convert into habitual viewers. i know multiple families who used to have geo on but after the success of radd,nj, mayiri, baby baji on ary (and how badly geo shows drag) switched permanently to ary as their go-to channel. IM's blockbuster status gave many other hum shows a trp bump.

another type of spillover effect that matters are lead-ins and their popularity. if there is one popular show in 7-8 pm slot on channel x, people are more likely to watch the 8-9pm show on that channel. baby baji ki bahuwein is doing pretty well right now so that definitely plays a role in uplifting 8 pm trps on ary. In the US they have done studies that show that lead-ins matter for ratings.

another type of spillover effect is competition on other channels. Shows that go up against AIEJ (Aik Chubhan Si, Dil e Nadaan, are not competitive and there'll be less diversion of viewers to those shows.

Shows of course can get much higher ratings for e1 than that slot average in immediately previous months. but those are buzzy shows. GM got 3.8 on e1 which showed the power of buzz because that slot itself used to have low trps. but AIEJ did not have many views on teasers (on either YT or IG) or have huge buzz (I even checked Google search trends). If the show is breaking a life time TRP record on E1 but did not have high buzz, there has to be another factor driving high TRP.

Shows of course can also get drastically low TRP than what the slot got immediately prior. That happens if the previous show which ended was an anomaly in ratings. A show that follows KMKT or IM would never get a TRP equivalent to KMKT or IM in e1. Or if the show that ended had a premium cast and mass appeal, but the one that immediately followed has a cast or genre that is not appealing to mass audiences.

E1 TRPs are a combo of factors but spillover facts matters. Highly successful shows have impact on TRP that extends beyond the slot and beyond the time when they are on air.

After E1/2, its whether the content clicks or not that will determine future TRP.

Also forced promotion(putting teaser before KMKT) helped

Originally posted by: Stormborn01

Can’t argue with the views. Only Danish and Feroze get these types of views. And now consistently Wahaj has done so as well. TB, MPHT, Mein and SMD.

Also neither Alif or JSA were trp toppers. Currently SMD is getting the trps as expected from a Haseeb Hasan show but not from a Wahaj/7th collaboration .

Originally posted by: Stormborn01

Can’t argue with the views. Only Danish and Feroze get these types of views. And now consistently Wahaj has done so as well. TB, MPHT, Mein and SMD.

Give some credit to his co-stars too. Yumna, Hania, Ayeza, & Maya. These popular female actors can bring views or trp on Geo & ARY.

Originally posted by: Hatimoon

Give some credit to his co-stars too. Yumna, Hania, Ayeza, & Maya. These popular female actors can bring views or trp on Geo & ARY.

Talking about Wahaj specifically here hence comparing with other male actors. Of course other cast and story also matters.

Originally posted by: 2RsFan

Also neither Alif or JSA were trp toppers. Currently SMD is getting the trps as expected from a Haseeb Hasan show but not from a Wahaj/7th collaboration .

JSA was a trp topper it defeated FT 2

My theory is simple, if you have to twist yourself into knots to convince others that a show is doing well, it most probably isn't...