Dushman e Jaan (ARY) - Mohib Mirza, Madiha Imam, Tooba Siddiqui - Page 61

Originally posted by: Sammi266

The thing with this drama is that your enjoyment depends a lot on your expectations of it.

Going in, I always expected it to be Rubab and Hatim's love story, and they introduced us to these characters very quickly. So I was watching it for the very sheltered and insecure younger girl having to build a relationship with an older, jaded, more sophisticated man who is battling his own guilt. And that's exactly what we're getting to see. And it's sweet. Rubab and Hatim were never going to have that passionate soulmate kind of connection. This was never Ramsha's story- it's Hatim's. And I think if you get stuck on Ramsha's death, then I can see the drama not being enjoyable.

Also, I liked Ramsha, but I think the fact that she died so early on in the drama leads to her being romanticised as a character. Personally, I saw shades of pragmatic, high-handed manipulation in her that I really dislike in her father.

I am in agreement with you. Ramsha was the catalyst of the play. She is basically the Daniyal (YKS) of this show. A main character that passes early on but is the driving force of the story and has this omnipresence throughout the entirety of the show. This is Hatim's story not hers; it has always been about him. At the end of the day, Hatim was never in love with Ramsha. He was at most attracted or becoming inclined towards her so her importance in his life is that of this genuine person and almost friend who he misunderstood and inadvertently got killed. The entire story is about his guilt and the changes he goes through as a person.

I feel the same way, Ramsha was a great character but she had her faults which of course is very human and relatable. However, no matter how great she was, I wouldn't put her on a pedestal because of certain things like her sheer lack of professionalism and rudeness. Don't have to be rude to be strong. You hit the mark - pragmatic, high-handed manipulation is a good way to describe certain aspects of her personality. Not to forget her compelling Rubab to accept the Zaheer proposal knowing full well that her sister would agree to anything for the family's sake. Ramsha is missed but the show hasn't faltered without her presence.

Umz its funny you mentioned Daniyal, as I am watching yks these days and just saw his death part yesterday😭

Btw, didnt know you are watching this too

Originally posted by: Sammi266

The thing with this drama is that your enjoyment depends a lot on your expectations of it.

Going in, I always expected it to be Rubab and Hatim's love story, and they introduced us to these characters very quickly. So I was watching it for the very sheltered and insecure younger girl having to build a relationship with an older, jaded, more sophisticated man who is battling his own guilt and how these two broken people try to put each other together. And that's exactly what we're getting to see. And it's sweet. Rubab and Hatim were never going to have that passionate soulmate kind of connection. This was never Ramsha's story- it's Hatim's. And I think if you get stuck on Ramsha's death, then I can see the drama not being enjoyable.

Also, I liked Ramsha, but I think the fact that she died so early on in the drama leads to her being romanticised as a character. Personally, I saw shades of pragmatic, high-handed manipulation in her that I really dislike in her father.

Very well said ...I too based it on the journey of the man who made a mistake and how he repents and is forgiven. I hope . I'm really liking mohib Mirza. Never seen anything of his before. Like he also said Hatim is not a villain but maybe a tragic hero .

I do hope he gets a happy ending.

Todays episode was funny when aslam came back.

Episodes go to fast .

Originally posted by: canuck-umz

I am in agreement with you. Ramsha was the catalyst of the play. She is basically the Daniyal (YKS) of this show. A main character that passes early on but is the driving force of the story and has this omnipresence throughout the entirety of the show. This is Hatim's story not hers; it has always been about him. At the end of the day, Hatim was never in love with Ramsha. He was at most attracted or becoming inclined towards her so her importance in his life is that of this genuine person and almost friend who he misunderstood and inadvertently got killed. The entire story is about his guilt and the changes he goes through as a person.

I feel the same way, Ramsha was a great character but she had her faults which of course is very human and relatable. However, no matter how great she was, I wouldn't put her on a pedestal because of certain things like her sheer lack of professionalism and rudeness. Don't have to be rude to be strong. You hit the mark - pragmatic, high-handed manipulation is a good way to describe certain aspects of her personality. Not to forget her compelling Rubab to accept the Zaheer proposal knowing full well that her sister would agree to anything for the family's sake. Ramsha is missed but the show hasn't faltered without her presence.

Spot on as I too feel that Ramsha was a catalyst and I didnt like her attitude . She also lied to Rubarb about loving someone but I suppose this is to confuse her later on ..when it will he all happening.

Zaheer hasn't met Hatim yet . Wonder if that's when things will also start move towards a climax and she finds out .

I found Ramsha to be the most realistic and interesting character with many layers. Hatim also has many layers but Rubab is boring

Originally posted by: heavenlybliss

Umz its funny you mentioned Daniyal, as I am watching yks these days and just saw his death part yesterday😭

Btw, didnt know you are watching this too

Man what a coincidence! Daniyal was my favourite character in YKS and I found Ramsha to basically be playing that role; a great character that dies early on and then drives the rest of the story.

I hadn't been watching it 4 days a week and was off the forum for a few weeks so couldn't contribute to discussions. Was taking it a couple of episodes at a time so finally just got caught up. So far just been watching this and PKS.

Originally posted by: canuck-umz

Man what a coincidence! Daniyal was my favourite character in YKS and I found Ramsha to basically be playing that role; a great character that dies early on and then drives the rest of the story.

I hadn't been watching it 4 days a week and was off the forum for a few weeks so couldn't contribute to discussions. Was taking it a couple of episodes at a time so finally just got caught up. So far just been watching this and PKS.

yeah so far yks has been focusing on daniyals case cant say much about future story...ahads long hair is putting me off and he doesnt seem lead material in this show. Even hira is dull so far I usually like her.

Here I am starting to like Rubab and Hatim after marriage scenes from yesterdays episode. Dang I think she will learn the truth after shes in love with him. :( You should try watching dil ruba too

Originally posted by: heavenlybliss

I found Ramsha to be the most realistic and interesting character with many layers. Hatim also has many layers but Rubab is boring

Ramsha was for sure a very interesting, realistic and layered character which is why I had said in my previous post that she is very human. For me though, Hatim is the most interesting and the most layered. He is the best character in this show. Hatim is also an awesome male lead in general. He is attractive because he is a grey hero but he isn't fake, a hypocrite, overly aggressive or abusive. If shows want to portray "the angry young man" trope then they should look to Hatim.

Regarding Rubab, In the first episode I liked her and there after stopped caring for her because she was one note. After Ramsha though, Rubab has grown on me since she has gained visibility and although it was well established that she is weak due to being sheltered, she does have her strong moments where her real personality shows through. She is also like Ramsha in certain aspects such as the moments she has shown anger, and wisdom in front of Hatim.

Just loving the pace of of each episode. Really enjoying the episodes. The progression is really well and the best thing is that there is something happening in each episode.

I have read the comments and i totally agree with Sammi that this play revolves around a male character. About his life, his guilts, his mistakes, his qualities. Ramsha and rubab are just important part of his life. No doubt i really liked ramsha character and missed her as well and also liked her chemistry with hatim but still i m enjoying recent episodes.

Hatim's character is my favorite. He has a great transformation. Mohib is doing great job.Hatim is trying to be a good husband. He is giving his 100% in this marriage. Trying his level best to make rubab comfortable. Rubab need to be more expressive. She is dull. She needs to understand their relationship. I don't get one think that she knows or thinks k wo hatim ki majboori hai than why she reacted that way ( like typical wife) when she met hatim's female friend.

I m enjoying watching the cute scenes of rubab and hatim. i really like such stories where love starts after marriage. Thats why here i m also liking hatim rubab budding romance. Aslam's entry and his scenes were enjoyable.

Looking forward to coming episodes

Originally posted by: heavenlybliss

I found Ramsha to be the most realistic and interesting character with many layers. Hatim also has many layers but Rubab is boring

I second that.

Rubab is indeed boring.

Why this actress madiha does same type of roles everytime?

Even when she was playing takbeer, she was doing same acting like she is doing as rubab