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Posted: 10 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: marymol


I too hav some impacts of Shwetha nd MOTD... I think dats y i was able to undrstnd ur POV...LOL..actually dats y i wrote KN instead of Nibir...๐Ÿ˜‰ jk ..

When i said i loved remarriage track, i too was refering to d suspense element nd kabir's support to nisha nd family in d whole situatn... I never liked CM nd GDA..

PS.. It was nice talking to u..Make more posts.. ๐Ÿ˜Š



@bold ๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜† Glad to have had some impact..๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜†
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Posted: 10 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: Shwets1502


I think we can commonly agree that cousins had no role but be Nisha's sidekicks. I mean...remember the FT? Fortune teller? So no one had any other job but think about Nisha's love life? I would have loved if the cousins had a story on their own too.

Again...agreed...Not everyone would have liked the kamina kabir in the beginning. I didn't like him. So that stays there...๐Ÿ˜†

About the supporting to being the main...I don't know. He had a promo for his introduction. That's more than enough to tell he was the male lead. I liked his short temper, which was realistic...the way he hit the Sabu guy's son...but again...it was overdone. It seemed like that's the only reaction he had when he got angry...hit the other one.

He definitely was an outsider during CM...It was a stupid idea. I think we can't go further that. He didn't probably know RN's bonding then? If he would have..he would have asked Nisha to tell Ramy then itself? I couldn't accept it Isha, though knowing the marriage would work at the end. That moment in the wedding...a moment which every parent cherishes...the wedding of their daughter...Nisha had cheated that moment. She wasn't happy and she had made a deal with Kabir. Teen mahine ke liye pati...That's pathetic.But yeah...it's not about Nisha...So let's no go there. As for Kabir...in a way...the idea coming from him wasn't a shocker...Nisha accepting it was the shocker.

CVs missed lot of opportunities in the entire story and characters...So it doesn't pertain to just Kabir or Viraj. But for Kabir...I didn't like the Kamina Kabir or the Kabir bahu. I liked he considered Nisha as an equal and didn't disrespect or made fun of her any time...and wasn't egoistic. he accepted Nisha's help too whenever needed.


Yeah I guess we can agree...I just want to be more hopeful and positive about their role LOL. They kinda started out as semi-main leads but then regressed to sidekicks

For sure. Even until the end, I always felt like Kabir underestimated/ didn't know KN bonding. He just knew she had supportive parents. There was a lot Kabir had yet to know about Nisha. I also don't think he fully realized the role the cousins had in her life. The two had a lot of gaps that weren't addressed. Which I thing is another thing that needed to be adressed during/before/after CM.

It makes sense you couldn't accept it Shwets. I get that. I too felt really bad when Ramy used the coins. That was a real guilt inducing moment for sure.

And yeah, Kabir had his good moments and his bad moments. But unlike others, his moments were too extreme LOL.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: arviabhigya

Fabulous post Isha !!!!!๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

Well there are a few things u missed out but apart from that it was great ๐Ÿ˜ƒ
I was actually grinning when I was reading ur post ๐Ÿ˜†
But what amused me more was that Shweta had wtitten an equally long comment ๐Ÿ˜† and it wsa hard to decide whose post was longer ๐Ÿคฃ
i read ur post, scrolled down and saw shweta's (didnt read it cz it wsa long and I was too lazy ๐Ÿ˜† ) scrolled down again and saw another long post of yours replying to Shweta's comments and I was in splits ๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿคฃ


Mihiks!! Thanks for reading and commenting! Really appreciate it!


And awww I missed out on some things? LOL dang it. This post was really hard to write. LOL when you have time could you tell me what I missed out? (I know you're busy with college so dw about it LOL!).

And I'm glad to see that you enjoyed my comment ๐Ÿ˜† And LOL Shwetha is da real MVP. She writes the best replies and comments ๐Ÿ˜†
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Posted: 10 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: marymol


I too hav some impacts of Shwetha nd MOTD... I think dats y i was able to undrstnd ur POV...LOL..actually dats y i wrote KN instead of Nibir...๐Ÿ˜‰ jk ..

When i said i loved remarriage track, i too was refering to d suspense element nd kabir's support to nisha nd family in d whole situatn... I never liked CM nd GDA..

PS.. It was nice talking to u..Make more posts.. ๐Ÿ˜Š


LOL Shwetha and her MOTD posts are famous in this forum ๐Ÿ˜†

And awesome! Glad we agree on so many points!

And LOL, don;t worry, I'll make and comment on a lot more posts ๐Ÿคฃ You also please continue commenting!! ๐Ÿ˜Š
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Posted: 10 years ago
#35
Oh kk i hv a completely different opinion abt the initial kabir - nisha reaction. I actually liked hw kabir annoyed nisha and got on her nerves. ๐Ÿ˜†
Atleast when nisha finally started responding to him she was out of her 'toota dil mode' for sometime atleast. I guess that is what he wanted as well. Why was he so hell bent on helping her even i cannot explain, nt everything cn be explained can it? People may call it interferance i saw it as his destiny with nisha.He did mention that so many ppl go through a break up but there are ppl who hv bigger problems so u cant just hold on to that u need to move ahead and he was absolutely right there. If he would directly pacify her she wud never listen to him so he found an indirect way to do it.

Everyone has unknown feelings hidden withen them, which are known to them only when they experience them. In kabir's case he initially decided to just put on a gathiya daamad act but when he experienced the love and care frm nisha's family he could not be so k. Inspite of that he struggled with his k ness when lakhshmi gave him the GH keys. That is when he experienced a mother's love a feeling completely unknown to him. Later he was supported by ramesh and he experienced a father's love the bond even which we loved to see. How could kabir not feel the same and change. New feelings do make changes in us.

Abt kabir giving up on his smartness when nisha was in the hospital was nt surprising for me or out of character. That is when he realised he loves her dearly. He was so caught up in retaining his k ness that he denied the fact that nisha and her family were nw an intergral part of his life. That is the reason he told nisha he doesnt kn y he feels upset when he hurts lakshmi or ramesh. That turmoil of k kabir and and the good kabir was always there. He didnt think smartly while nisha was in the hospital, it happens i myself take strong decisions most of the times i dont panic in difficult situations but when it comes to my loved ones i am emotionally crippled. That is what kabira was shown to do he was smart while saving chandu but when it came to nisha whom he loved so much he could not think clearly.

So i feel kabir was never out of character it was just an alteration to his k character brought out by circumstances and i am sure he would regain his k self once everything was sorted.

PS: i cant believe i typed such a long comment kya karun love kabira too much ๐Ÿคฃ
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Posted: 10 years ago
#36
Inspite of that he struggled with his k ness when lakhshmi gave him the GH keys. That is when he experienced a mother's love a feeling completely unknown to him.
@picaddily
This is completely too much why should kabir feeling mothers love in lakshmi when he got his own mother and with whom he even didnt mention his marriage and when that mother told about viraj even without realising what is there he went with gun to kill viraj eventhough that poor Viraj once saved his life Height of stupidity
Edited by princessglory - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#37
Isha... Super post once again...
I did not like kabir's entry coz I wanted nisha with her family... With her cousins... But I was OK with it ki atleasr they didn't show nisha in toota toota mode... My first impression on kabir was like why is he unnecessarily poking nose in nisha's personal matter... I was irritated with him coz of rg same reason in chandu track... Ya phir its coz of the reason ramy track was running g in parallel and I was more I interested in that..lol...
So back to kabir now... I actually liked kabir with Gf especially ramy and sukku... The cousins treated him as an equal and I absolutely loved raka bond...but the cm was a stupid decision... I actually wanted kabir to ask nisha to tell the truth or run away but he didn't...
And now the worst track of kabir... Which actually him boring... Fj track... I remember in motd we were discussing ki kabir sent the clip to saurav when we got that prexap before that ram leela epi... I was like thank god akal bachi hai but he beat gopi and suhaani...he didn't. ..

And I hated kabir sacrificing nisha track... During the car racing for parking thing kabir was like ko mera hai I will never leave it but sacrifice track was like ulta...

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Posted: 10 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: princessglory

Inspite of that he struggled with his k ness when lakhshmi gave him the GH keys. That is when he experienced a mother's love a feeling completely unknown to him.

@picaddily
This is completely too much why should kabir feeling mothers love in lakshmi when he got his own mother and with whom he even didnt mention his marriage and when that mother told about viraj even without realising what is there he went with gun to kill viraj eventhough that poor Viraj once saved his life Height of stupidity



His own mother plotted against him if you remember. Besides he mentioned to nisha on his bday that he never saw his father and his mother was busy with the business so he never experienced his love either. So obviously with lakhshmi it is the first time he knew what a mother's love actually is. Vasu just told kabir that viraj was here before she broke down and he felt viraj was responsible. She only told nisha that they are brothers and when she broke the news to kabir he immediately stopped his fight. Since you pointed out abt kabir storming to shoot viraj even though viraj saved his life let me remind you he was greatful abt it and even asked viraj to forget everything and offered his friendship bt viraj elected his ego over kabir's friendship. Viraj has ridiculed him many times bt since we are nt discussing abt viraj here i wont bring that up in detail.

I didnt even bring up viraj in my opinion y drag him in between.

PS: its picadally not picadilly. I am sentimental there atleast
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@picadally I found the point taken very interesting and hence replying. It's definitely not an argument, but just a debate on an interesting point.

What exactly is mother's love which Kabir experienced when Lakshmi gave the keys? I think he was just overwhelmed by the trust and understanding Lakshmi showed on him, a complete stranger. That's it. As for VJ...I definitely think Kabir shared a great bond with his mother. Though a little formal...they definitely loved each other very much. And let's not forget...Whatever VJ did was out of her revengeful attitude towards Gangwals which overcame her love for her son. She accepted Nisha and Kabir's marriage too, though he had committed a grave blunder of doing CM and hiding it from his own mother. I guess, if things wouldn't have worked out, he probably wouldn't have ever told he got married once when he was in India to VJ. (I am not mentioning the lies VJ said as that's not part of the topic. She was equally wrong too no doubt)

And the whole VJ plotting thing came much after the Lakshmi keys scene.

Also...I wish Kabir had understood RLs sentiments more especially when Lakshmi got her panic attack. Instead of agreeing to Nisha at the end...he should have guided her to tell the truth to her parents, especially with him getting closer to RL and loving them as his own parents.

On the whole my point is...It isn't that Kabir never knew mother's love. He definitely did...Remember the times he remembered his mother's words and that can only happen if they bonded well. It might nt have been a great bonding...Nevertheless he loved his mother no doubt in spite of the distance.

As for Viraj and going to kill him one...๐Ÿ˜† What if Nisha hadn't come at the right moment? ๐Ÿ˜†

PS Iterating...This is an open discussion, seeing each other's perspective and having a healthy debate.
Edited by Shwets1502 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#40

Originally posted by: Shwets1502

@picadally I found the point taken very interesting and hence replying. It's definitely not an argument, but just a debate on an interesting point.


What exactly is mother's love which Kabir experienced when Lakshmi gave the keys? I think he was just overwhelmed by the trust and understanding Lakshmi showed on him, a complete stranger. That's it. As for VJ...I definitely think Kabir shared a great bond with his mother. Though a little formal...they definitely loved each other very much. And let's not forget...Whatever VJ did was out of her revengeful attitude towards Gangwals which overcame her love for her son. She accepted Nisha and Kabir's marriage too, though he had committed a grave blunder of doing CM and hiding it from his own mother. I guess, if things wouldn't have worked out, he probably wouldn't have ever told he got married once when he was in India to VJ. (I am not mentioning the lies VJ said as that's not part of the topic. She was equally wrong too no doubt)

And the whole VJ plotting thing came much after the Lakshmi keys scene.

Also...I wish Kabir had understood RLs sentiments more especially when Lakshmi got her panic attack. Instead of agreeing to Nisha at the end...he should have guided her to tell the truth to her parents, especially with him getting closer to RL and loving them as his own parents.

On the whole my point is...It isn't that Kabir never knew mother's love. He definitely did...Remember the times he remembered his mother's words and that can only happen if they bonded well. It might nt have been a great bonding...Nevertheless he loved his mother no doubt in spite of the distance.

As for Viraj and going to kill him one...๐Ÿ˜† What if Nisha hadn't come at the right moment? ๐Ÿ˜†

PS Iterating...This is an open discussion, seeing each other's perspective and having a healthy debate.


My name is natasha if you could address me with my name.

Kabir definitely bonded well with his mother but no mother plots against his son even if it is for revenge. he was overwhelmed with lakhshmi's trust isnt that all the more reason to experience the real motherly love. Blind trust that is what a mother has on her chidren. i am talking abt this kind of unexplicable bond between a child and its mother which kabir may not hv experienced with vasu.
I am sorry to say a mothers love doesnt disappear in a jiffy at the sligthest sight of vengeance.
He hid the fact that he was married frm vasu agreed that was wrong. Children do make mistakes no one is perfect.
As far as lakshmi's panic attack is concerned and kabir listening to nisha if u remember nisha very ruthlessly told him that he was selfish and thought abt himself and if they told lakhshmi abt their marriage truth it wud affect her further. He must hv definitely given up there because he knew nisha knows her mother better then him.

i think u mean to say that kabir rushed to shoot viraj cauz he cared for vasu, to which i will say i never said he didnt love vasu or vasu never loved him all i am saying is lakshmi was the one who actually made him feel loved in the true sense that a mother does.


PS: just my POV


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