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Posted: 10 years ago
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I knew a girl who had a boycut, wore masculine clothes, and even looked like a guy. Her belief was because there was no father or any male figure in her house she needed to become a guy.
Now, so many girls are raised without fathers but none of them change their clothing like that and feel proud to be recognised as a guy. That's how this particular girl decided to use as a protection shield.

Nisha has done exactly the same. She feels being a feminine girl led to being molested because let's be real if she was a guy the guys would have beaten her to a pulp and left. Even though she doesn't look like a guy like my friend she feels tougher because its her armour.

And this is a prime time slot. They can't show a guy put his hands down a trousers or up her shirt. Besides once I was out shopping this guy deliberately brushed up against me. And I felt so gross for a week and could feel phantom touches. I can't imagine what it would feel like to felt up by so many people. Doubt it would be easy to stop feeling revulsion.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shwets1502

Though I respect your viewpoint, I completely completely completely disagree with you.

First thing. I feel you are looking at the matter very theoretically. Nisha was 13 years old when the incident happened. She was a jolly go girl with childishness of her age. She didn't share the incident with the school, the school authorities witnessed the incident(kindly check your point).

Yes. Her family loves her. Her parents are so caring and understanding. So what's the fear? The fear is of losing that love and care. She doesn't know what has happened to her but she has been made to believe in that age that something has happened to her which she needs to be ashamed off. Naturally, she, as a child, put it into a box and kept it to her. In due course of her life, she might have realised what has happened to her. Why she didn't share it with her parents after reaching a certain age? We have to wait and watch.

Coming to the gender identity issues. It would be great if you can actually explain more. For Nisha, she was molested because she was a girl. Do you deny that? She fear/envies being girly because boys might take advantage of her again. She wants to portray herself strongly and not like what she was in school. I don't see her having any issues regarding that. She drives a Scooty and not a sports bike. She wears trendy clothes and men's clothes.

Why she couldn't tell her family even so long years and even after having a lovely family. Its upto the individual. Its completely sad to read you saying molestation like this isn't serious. You think Jwala can't suffer PTSD? She can? Its upto the person's ability to bear stress. Was Nisha suffering for 7-8 years? She has tried to move over it by changing herself. She behaves perfectly normal except when it relates boys which is completely understandable.




I completely agree with u
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Posted: 10 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: chennaigirl

This issue is a serious issue..Depends upon the mentality of the person who was molested..I feel Nisha was not a mentally strong person , so she closed herself up and took extreme measures to cope up and it continued to become her life..

Many of us are abused in one way or other..Even I have been subjected ..When I was in school, one day I had to walk to my relatives home and two guys tried to molest me but I ran away..But I never tried to hide myself...I understood life is full of dangers for a woman and found out ways to face things..
Nisha's way of facing things has been shown as her hiding her feminity..Its a little extreme but this is a drama so they are dramatizing it..But it doesn't happen in real life..


you are the only person who understood what I meant! You nailed it, they dramatized it,that's what I meant
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mahabhootni

I knew a girl who had a boycut, wore masculine clothes, and even looked like a guy. Her belief was because there was no father or any male figure in her house she needed to become a guy.

Now, so many girls are raised without fathers but none of them change their clothing like that and feel proud to be recognised as a guy. That's how this particular girl decided to use as a protection shield.

Nisha has done exactly the same. She feels being a feminine girl led to being molested because let's be real if she was a guy the guys would have beaten her to a pulp and left. Even though she doesn't look like a guy like my friend she feels tougher because its her armour.

And this is a prime time slot. They can't show a guy put his hands down a trousers or up her shirt. Besides once I was out shopping this guy deliberately brushed up against me. And I felt so gross for a week and could feel phantom touches. I can't imagine what it would feel like to felt up by so many people. Doubt it would be easy to stop feeling revulsion.



Did you even watched the show? She was not felt up by the guys, the guys pushed her on the floor and before something else happened the teacher reached there

Yes she suffered trauma but she was not felt up!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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this is such a narrow minded and offensive post
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Well this show comes on prime time and it airs on a channel which telecasts family dramas... So they can't show actual molestation or rape in there show. Its a very sensitive topic and channel & ph will always be concious while giving such scenes... Here we as a viewer have to understand that nisha got molested by those boys and since then she is having this trauma and trust issues with opposite gender. To justify Nisha's trauma they can't highlight every detail of molestation... It's not crime petrol kind of show...

Next is i don't think Nisha is having gender identity issue, bcoz thats a natural which a person feels... As they showed in SMJ on last Sunday.

Nisha behaves like a boy Bcoz she thinks that Bcoz she's girl those boys harassed her... So to protect herself , a 13 yrs old teenage girl out of her fear and limited thinking transformed herself into a tomboy... That absolutely has no relation with gender identity . Neither they r portraying a woman as a weak one... Nisha as a girl saved jwala... Lakshmi being a woman decided to stand up for her daughter and it gives a message to our society that one should not keep mum on these matters... I found it a brave thing to do for a mother who's daughters marriage is being fixed.

Well that's how I looked at this track... 😊
Edited by cherryberry293 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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The things said in the topic post are misguided. One you need to understand that being "tomboy" does not equal to transgender tendencies. Being gender confused is a very different thing that wanting to feel strong and associating those traits with one gender rather than the other. Nisha's tomboy avatar is her defense mechanism. She dealt with her trauma the best way she could...because there was no one to help her reach a better conclusion about what happened to her.
Harassment, molestation, rape... they all leave the same impact on an impressionistic psyche..that of a young adult. Its not the extent of the horror but the feeling of helplessness in that situation that traumatizes the victim. Its the attack on ones own sense of self..self-confidence..and identity that is what happens when someone decided to do something horrific against another person. It strips a person of their sense the security..and Nisha's way of dealing with it was to become stronger..physically violent...and accept the traits of men which she thought was the only way to prevent this from happening to herself again or from protecting anyone else around her from facing these things.

They did not dramatize it beyond necessary. Nisha's level of trauma and her was limited to her transforming herself and accomodating certain manly traits in her personality... she detests the idea of marriage, not because she doesn't like men..but the thought of physical proximity to a man scares her... it would remind her again of the time that she was helpless and she hates feeling that way. She never wants to be in that situation again. Ritesh is not the kind of sensitive guy who would understand Nisha's problem. Nisha knows that and so she rejected him. But if the right kind of guy comes along, Nisha will get over her issue with sexual attraction. Unfortunately, such breed of men are hard to find in an Indian community.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: AyeshaKt



Did you even watched the show? She was not felt up by the guys, the guys pushed her on the floor and before something else happened the teacher reached there

Yes she suffered trauma but she was not felt up!


No, offense, but you sound like one of those lawyers from 1980s bollywood. Kahan chuya, kidhr chuya. And I'm not going to give you the birds and bees talk about how you can feel someone up without your hands especially guys who're sitting on top of a girl. (I hope this wasn't too explicit for this forum.)
Edited by Mahabhootni - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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postmaker,
i seriously think you should go back to your post n read it once again then you will understand why so many ppl are offended by your msg...
ek banda disagree kre samajh mein aata, 2 theek hain , but itne saare forum ppl are against your post then you must understand that there is defi. smthing wrong with the way you have percieved the whole message of such a wonderful show..😡😡
n as far as nisha's tomboyish behaviour is considered there is no set method or way to react...after any harassement, sexual abuse or rape...
things depend from person to person... no two ppl are alike...
there is no specified RULEBOOK to deal/ react to such activities.. agar aapne is tarah se react nhi kiya then you seem to hv certain gender identity issues... u must hv seen satyamev jayate...this mentality is seriously flawed...guess @postmaker you need some help...sorry...

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Postmaker
I find almost all your points wrong.. Sorry. But I never heard a person has to behave as per the particular rule book you are refering to.. Can I please borrow that rule-book?
You, like most of the people in our society, are the reason for many to not open up. Do you understand that you are belittleing someone's past issues? Now who around you will be comfortable enough to speak to you about their past, knowing your mentality regarding traumatic issues!!
So according to you, if you were blindfolded by some guys [with an intention of hurting you and not playing hide n seek], and you are manhandled AND a guy sits on you, and you cannot even scream, you would be cool??? Will you think "okay so my clothes are still on me, so no worries, this is cool!"
As for most of the human beings, whether a man or woman, dont like losing control; we fear it. We are afraid of kidnappers, hijackers, killers, rapists, etc... We dont think the above mentioned incident is trivial enough to be neglected. And since it isn't trivial; it comes under trauma... And that qualifies to cause PTSD. Period.
Now, dear, did you ever "understand" defense mechanism?? No? I thought so.. If you think the show is "dramatized" and that nobody becomes a tomboy due to such issues, then you can safely consider yourself as wrong... Who am I to say so? Oh, lets say I have issues too, and to this day I make sure my clothes are difficult to be removed by another person. I make sure to not be "very presentable"... I never wear make-up.. And I carry pepper spray!! Am I being dramatic? Or am I over-reacting? No! I'm doing my best to protect myself! What the world thinks about my looks is not my bussiness!
Moving on to "sharing" things with friends/family, I never shared my past issues with my family... Why? Don't I love my parents? Don't I trust them? Ofcourse I do! I love them more than I can ever love myself! And thats my answer! I couldn't hurt them with the truth. They would consider themselves a failure if they come to know they couldn't protect me! I'm selfish, And I cannot see them hurting. I have always been independent by nature... right since childhood; so I know I'm strong enough to handle things on my own! Instead of upsetting my whole family. Being an only child, I'm supposed to be their backbone and I'm well aware of my responsibilities.
I came across as rude, I know. But I couldn't help it. Instead of so many "whys and ifs", could you please just stop and think? Because you are hurting many "real" people with your way of reasoning...

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