My issue with Piansh love story - Page 3

For you it's character growth for me it's about the tracks. Not all tracks should be only about romance. There should be other aspects shown as well. Otherwise u only get "Hero mu heroine... treats her horribly...seperation...yawn ...Rinse Repeat...ff X no. of yrs..The End". Plus variety is the spice of life. I'm used to the international format. Even the romance dramas i watched they showed other tracks in the background not related to the leads. That way their story wasn't affected & i got see all stages of their courship. First meet-cute to first kiss to first date ( ) to engagement/wedding.

Alisha!!! I think you are mistaking character growth with romanticism. For me character growth and different tracks are synonyms. How can you say someone has evolved if he/she doesn't get through different situations? Even I am used to international format and I believe when you introduce different aspects through different characters, it makes it look more realistic and interesting. I love romantic tracks but even there are stages. Like in Grey's Anatomy - Meredith started as a resident and we have watched different phases of her love life along with her overall development; both as a person and a kick-ass surgeon.

I guess the point i was trying to make earlier, in my post which admittedly i was frustrated, is "Don't pigeonhole Nazar into something it's not ie. Romance Exclusive / Daily soap but accept it for what it is Romance / Supernatural/ Daily Soap/ Family / Comedy/ Mystery...etc in short Multi genre. Don't miss the forest for the trees ! " One enjoy's the show better that way.

Sorry if i'm sounding preachy here.

You are not. 😆 Even I have the same issue. I don't like when they shove forced romantic tracks down our throat and I don't like when they give MoVed way too much SS while PiyAnsh are in the background. Good v/s Evil - is cliched but it can be really interesting if executed properly. Wasn't Charmed all about three sisters saving the world from supernatural creatures? But they also focussed on so many things like - education, challenges in professional life, sibling rivalry. They incorporated every aspect of human life and made the battle look balanced and logical.

That's what I want in case of Nazar too. The initial promos were always hinting at Dayaan to be the offender and Daivik to be the protector. Show their balanced fight like you used to do in the initial episodes. Show the gradual development in PiyAnsh's married life. Now that they have kids with powers, teach them how to control it. Plus if they had retained the cousins, they could have shown their jealousy for not having powers and PiyAnsh craving for a normal life. There are many things.

Even I don't want to tag it with something specific. What's the need to show Mo all powerful when you actually end up making her look idiotic? And what's with so much promotion of the Dark Prince - DV and Goddess's Medium - Daivik, while PiyAnsh are only used as eye-candies and Piya as a sole protector of Gs?

I admit i don't always get what i want & yes i am not satisfied at times but what i get is Nazar. I enjoy it that way.

I agree.

Originally posted by: nushy1995

They came out with something original in Nazar. I like their mythology.

Me too.

That's sad to hear. You shouldn't have had to suffer that. I guess mine was better because i spent watching cartoons & itv sitcoms.

Well I did watch some good sitcoms like - Tu Tu Main Main and Sarabhai. Plus, I used to watch cartoon that they aired in our country. However at that time we only got popular Hindi channels like SP, Zee and Sony. So that was the reign of Ekta Mata and watched all sort of odd things. But it has its own value. Me and my friends have a good laugh regarding what we used to watch and enjoy when we were kids. 😆

YHM - I liked the pairing of Ishita & Raman but i left it after a year because they dragged their love confession for too long. I guess since it's a long soap 'the cow had to go up the tree' in the storyline. That's one of the reasons i'm a big fan of Nazar. Even after a year & a 1/2 they managed to keep their content so fresh. Naagin initially i watched as an alternative to daily soaps but mid way it became the same like others. I've never been able to complete any of it's seasons so far.

Speaking of YHM it reminds me of a topic i wanted to discuss ' Drawbacks of Romance in a Daily Soap Format' I'll post that later.

It's undeniable that they introduced a fresh concept and KP and DT have sizzling chemistry. I was annoyed with the stretching too but the thing that completely put me off was their overglorification of Yashodha Maa concept.

I truly believe Yashodha as a mother had much more impact in Krishna's life than Devki. Even in normal scenarios, I regard adoptive parents in much higher position than biological parents as they are literally giving everything to someone else's kid and making him/her their own. But when you stress too much on something, ultimately it looks fake.

Watch Bhootu - they showed a balance between both the mothers' role in the kid's life. But YHM got overboard and at this point, Ishita has practically become a Jagat-Mata.

Completely agree about Nazar. They still have freshness in their story. A lot of the tracks probably took inspiration from other shows but ended up in a different way - which is both surprising and thrilling.

Hi 5 tu tu was one of my favourites. Did u see kadvee khatte meethi ?

Sarabhai season 2 i liked pity they couldn't come up with season 3

Hmm in my time those channels we had mano yana mano zee Rishtey Small wonder etc

Nazar i think it took inspiration for concepts of monsters from animes nature etc. but tracks no. Our writers are very talented.

Originally posted by: nushy1995

For you it's character growth for me it's about the tracks. Not all tracks should be only about romance. There should be other aspects shown as well. Otherwise u only get "Hero mu heroine... treats her horribly...seperation...yawn ...Rinse Repeat...ff X no. of yrs..The End". Plus variety is the spice of life. I'm used to the international format. Even the romance dramas i watched they showed other tracks in the background not related to the leads. That way their story wasn't affected & i got see all stages of their courship. First meet-cute to first kiss to first date ( ) to engagement/wedding.

Alisha!!! I think you are mistaking character growth with romanticism. For me character growth and different tracks are synonyms. How can you say someone has evolved if he/she doesn't get through different situations? Even I am used to international format and I believe when you introduce different aspects through different characters, it makes it look more realistic and interesting. I love romantic tracks but even there are stages. Like in Grey's Anatomy - Meredith started as a resident and we have watched different phases of her love life along with her overall development; both as a person and a kick-ass surgeon.

I guess the point i was trying to make earlier, in my post which admittedly i was frustrated, is "Don't pigeonhole Nazar into something it's not ie. Romance Exclusive / Daily soap but accept it for what it is Romance / Supernatural/ Daily Soap/ Family / Comedy/ Mystery...etc in short Multi genre. Don't miss the forest for the trees ! " One enjoy's the show better that way.

Sorry if i'm sounding preachy here.

You are not. 😆 Even I have the same issue. I don't like when they shove forced romantic tracks down our throat and I don't like when they give MoVed way too much SS while PiyAnsh are in the background. Good v/s Evil - is cliched but it can be really interesting if executed properly. Wasn't Charmed all about three sisters saving the world from supernatural creatures? But they also focussed on so many things like - education, challenges in professional life, sibling rivalry. They incorporated every aspect of human life and made the battle look balanced and logical.

That's what I want in case of Nazar too. The initial promos were always hinting at Dayaan to be the offender and Daivik to be the protector. Show their balanced fight like you used to do in the initial episodes. Show the gradual development in PiyAnsh's married life. Now that they have kids with powers, teach them how to control it. Plus if they had retained the cousins, they could have shown their jealousy for not having powers and PiyAnsh craving for a normal life. There are many things.

Even I don't want to tag it with something specific. What's the need to show Mo all powerful when you actually end up making her look idiotic? And what's with so much promotion of the Dark Prince - DV and Goddess's Medium - Daivik, while PiyAnsh are only used as eye-candies and Piya as a sole protector of Gs?

I admit i don't always get what i want & yes i am not satisfied at times but what i get is Nazar. I enjoy it that way.

I agree.

I'm not confusing character development with romanticism. I did not say u should not expect character growth. Neither did i say Romance is the problem. You missed the context of my 2nd post completely.

Let me ask u a question

Nazar these days the tracks so far do u think they are written keeping a set of characters in mind for eg Mo Ved Piansh etc or do u think they are written having a particular story in mind & the characters are used for those tracks.

Is it track based or character based ?

Think about it .

Hi 5 tu tu was one of my favourites. Did u see kadvee khatte meethi ?

1 or 2 episodes here and there. Didn't watch it regularly.

Sarabhai season 2 i liked pity they couldn't come up with season 3

Personally I didn't even like S2. S1 was awesome but in case of S2, I felt they were trying too hard to make it funny using unnecessary adult joke. So quit after watching a couple of episodes.

Nazar i think it took inspiration for concepts of monsters from animes nature etc. but tracks no. Our writers are very talented.

There were different tracks where I thought the tracks somewhat resembled Charmed, TVD, OUAT etc.

But yes, the writers have shown their talent in multiple tracks.

I'm not confusing character development with romanticism. I did not say u should not expect character growth. Neither did i say Romance is the problem. You missed the context of my 2nd post completely.

In that case, I am sorry.

Let me ask u a question

Nazar these days the tracks so far do u think they are written keeping a set of characters in mind for eg Mo Ved Piansh etc or do u think they are written having a particular story in mind & the characters are used for those tracks.

Is it track based or character based ?

Think about it .

At this point it is character based. Because the main track has ended with RCG and they have already shown the final battle. Right now there's not much to explore. So they are just showing stuffs randomly keeping 3D in focus while ghusofyig Ved in everything.

Originally posted by: nushy1995

I'm not confusing character development with romanticism. I did not say u should not expect character growth. Neither did i say Romance is the problem. You missed the context of my 2nd post completely.

In that case, I am sorry.

Let me ask u a question

Nazar these days the tracks so far do u think they are written keeping a set of characters in mind for eg Mo Ved Piansh etc or do u think they are written having a particular story in mind & the characters are used for those tracks.

Is it track based or character based ?

Think about it .

At this point it is character based. Because the main track has ended with RCG and they have already shown the final battle. Right now there's not much to explore. So they are just showing stuffs randomly keeping 3D in focus while ghusofyig Ved in everything.

If i put u on the defensive i'm sorry. I was pained by the previous groups cavalier attitude towards this show. This show is unique..to complain why is it not ordinary .. it's unfair. You picked up on the balance point from my 2nd post that's why i talked about it. Otherwise i wouldn't have brought it up.

To answer the question i believe it is content based. The characters are used as per the storyline demands. I believe because they don't focus exclusively on the romantic leads but expands to the other characters as well, that's why it's still managed to stay fresh for so long.

So Diwali we had Pr after that we focused on Piya then after that on Ved then after that on Mo & now on Ansh. Then in the episodes we have parallel tracks of Dilman plus Rivavanshi to keep it interesting.

This type of format is unlike other shows for eg Jinn which focuses only on Roshan vs the Jinn. Supporting characters there don't have much of a story arc.

So here if u watch the show for only one particular character isn't it natural to feel dissapointed ? Unlike the other shows where u only have the romantic leads you don't have that option here.

If my explanation confused you then think about it this way.

In the 90's we had movies which ran because they were star driven. We would choose films based on who we liked. Today movies run because they are content driven not Stars.

It's like saying i dislike Gully boy because Ranveer Singh starred in it or saying Dangal is awful because Amir khan starred in it.

In the process you're just missing out on a great movie.

Not saying you're don't have a right to feel dissapointed when things don't pan out or have to like every character. Just offering another perspective.

Don't get me wrong Alisha, you actually became quite defensive. The few of us who are here don't agree on everything but at least we are civil enough to agree to disagree. If you continue worrying about what had happened earlier, how can we have proper honest discussion?

I get your point. But I won't argue on whether it is based on characters or storyline. Because different people interpret the same situation in different way. For you it's story based; the way I see it, it's character based.

I agree with the proper use of ensemble cast. Because each character brings something unique and makes the story enriched. I won't say, shows that focus on one couple doesn't have much scope. They do considering they are focusing on different aspects of the leads only. But considering the daily soap formula and TRP pressure often the makers add unnecessary twist which degrades the story entirely. An ensemble cast has an added advantage in that way. But ultimately it depends on the writer. They can make any show great or super idiotic.

Your explanation isn't confusing. However, be it a single couple or an ensemble cast, you can't enjoy a show if you start losing touch with the characters. Even if you are reading a story with a fresh perspective, if Midway they screw up the story or make the respective characters do something completely out of the context, you won't be able to enjoy it.

You might think I watch the show only for PiyAnsh hence my disappoint when the focus shifts. But that's not the reason here. It's the abrupt shift which makes no sense. Ved is human so if you want to shift the focus on her, show she is being hypnotized or something else. But showing her to have a twin doesn't make any sense by the justification they had given earlier. So there's no way for me to like that particular track. It's not because of the shift but because of the lack of logic and not to mention the horrible acting.

The same goes for current Track. Mo changing her ways had a lot of potential. But it was ended abruptly and Mo was portrayed as a clown yet again. But that's how I perceive it. You may have different opinion. So I lost my interest on her and focussed on the other parts.

I can only say for myself. I don't expect the show to be centered around one single couple. But ultimately if they can't make the other aspects interesting enough, obviously I will point out that.

Originally posted by: nushy1995

Don't get me wrong Alisha, you actually became quite defensive. The few of us who are here don't agree on everything but at least we are civil enough to agree to disagree. If you continue worrying about what had happened earlier, how can we have proper honest discussion?

I get your point. But I won't argue on whether it is based on characters or storyline. Because different people interpret the same situation in different way. For you it's story based; the way I see it, it's character based.

I agree with the proper use of ensemble cast. Because each character brings something unique and makes the story enriched. I won't say, shows that focus on one couple doesn't have much scope. They do considering they are focusing on different aspects of the leads only. But considering the daily soap formula and TRP pressure often the makers add unnecessary twist which degrades the story entirely. An ensemble cast has an added advantage in that way. But ultimately it depends on the writer. They can make any show great or super idiotic.

Your explanation isn't confusing. However, be it a single couple or an ensemble cast, you can't enjoy a show if you start losing touch with the characters. Even if you are reading a story with a fresh perspective, if Midway they screw up the story or make the respective characters do something completely out of the context, you won't be able to enjoy it.

You might think I watch the show only for PiyAnsh hence my disappoint when the focus shifts. But that's not the reason here. It's the abrupt shift which makes no sense. Ved is human so if you want to shift the focus on her, show she is being hypnotized or something else. But showing her to have a twin doesn't make any sense by the justification they had given earlier. So there's no way for me to like that particular track. It's not because of the shift but because of the lack of logic and not to mention the horrible acting.

The same goes for current Track. Mo changing her ways had a lot of potential. But it was ended abruptly and Mo was portrayed as a clown yet again. But that's how I perceive it. You may have different opinion. So I lost my interest on her and focussed on the other parts.

I can only say for myself. I don't expect the show to be centered around one single couple. But ultimately if they can't make the other aspects interesting enough, obviously I will point out that.

Sorry i made u uncomfortable.

For the record I'm not obsessed with the past. Throughout this forum's run i have accepted everyone different perspectives. I welcomed them even. You even sent me a nice love letter in defence of Piansh. I accepted that didn't i ? I understood that time that feelings were high that's why i waited for things to cool down before i relplied. Although now it seems unnecessary to reply.

There were somethings in this post that needed to be talked about. That's why i made it a separate one away from the main discussion.

But you're right i shouldn't have brought that up with you. You have every right to feel offended.

Sorry i made u uncomfortable. For the record I'm not obsessed with the past. Throughout this forum's run i have accepted everyone different perspectives. I welcomed them even. You even sent me a nice love letter in defence of Piansh. I accepted that didn't i ? I understood that time that feelings were high that's why i waited for things to cool down before i relplied. Although now it seems unnecessary to reply.

It's okay dear. 😊 Even I may have gone into defensive mode. It's just that I really love to discuss with everyone as we all have different perspective regarding the same situation. As far as my love letter in defense of PiyAnsh is concerned, 😆 I don't want to defend them - not in front of you or anyone. Just like always, I agreed on some parts and disagreed on some other facts. So I wanted to write it down otherwise it would bug me.

YHM is one of the most loved shows in recent time. And I have seen in their forum how people go gaga over IshRa while personally I don't consider them as a decent couple. That's because - I have my set of rules by which I find them absolutely disgusting. If you really don't like PiyAnsh - you have every right to voice it out. I could still watch YHM for other aspects and characters; you still enjoy Nazar for its intriguing storyline. That should be enough for both of us to continue watching and discussing every now and then. 😊

Originally posted by: nushy1995

Sorry i made u uncomfortable. For the record I'm not obsessed with the past. Throughout this forum's run i have accepted everyone different perspectives. I welcomed them even. You even sent me a nice love letter in defence of Piansh. I accepted that didn't i ? I understood that time that feelings were high that's why i waited for things to cool down before i relplied. Although now it seems unnecessary to reply.

It's okay dear. 😊 Even I may have gone into defensive mode. It's just that I really love to discuss with everyone as we all have different perspective regarding the same situation. As far as my love letter in defense of PiyAnsh is concerned, 😆 I don't want to defend them - not in front of you or anyone. Just like always, I agreed on some parts and disagreed on some other facts. So I wanted to write it down otherwise it would bug me.

YHM is one of the most loved shows in recent time. And I have seen in their forum how people go gaga over IshRa while personally I don't consider them as a decent couple. That's because - I have my set of rules by which I find them absolutely disgusting. If you really don't like PiyAnsh - you have every right to voice it out. I could still watch YHM for other aspects and characters; you still enjoy Nazar for its intriguing storyline. That should be enough for both of us to continue watching and discussing every now and then. 😊

Cool 😊 I love Nazar and the fan in me took it a little too far without realising it. Specially now that this sigh.. show is ending in 2 months.

Regarding your earlier post don't mind my saying this but i felt u were a little offended that time. I don't blame you. They've never been criticized before so it must have taken u off guard.

YHM - They're called Ishra ? Well i never visited the forum. I agree there like chewing gum they extended their relationship. It lost it charm after the 1st year. I believe there is a spin off series in the making.

And Ya would love to have discussions with you 👍🏼