Ansh has gone back to his maa jaap! - Page 2

[ Disclaimer - All posts for this topic "Ansh has gone back to his Maa Jaap " written so far including this one is all about Vedashree for Vedashree and by Vedashree . Meaning (big hint) There is no mention of Mohana anywhere . She has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion. Reading your posts so far I'm glad you acknowledge that such such mom stereotypes are negative although calling Ved a vamp is a bit too much. Read with a pinch of salt . This post is for entertainment purposes only. ]

Sacrifice- A common thread in most of your posts is how much Ved sacrificed and how much Ansh ought to be grateful for it.

1 ) It ceases being a sacrifice when you demand payment for it.

When you have to account for every breath you take and hand over control over every area of your life for the rest of your live in repayment. That is when it stops being a sacrifice but a long term investment plan with dividends coming in the 20th year.

2)Kids of her own ??

If this wasn't a two dimensional serial with a goody two shoes character. I'd say Vedashree would be a wonderfully complex character with less than pure motives. If she had children of her own they would have no need to be grateful to her. They'd take her for granted like all kids do. They wouldn't feel this compulsion to blindly obey every order just because she gave birth to them.

So why would she need to give birth to her own children when she has a powerful being at her beck and call. He worships the ground she walks on.

He'd lay down his life for her. Its immensely flattering to the ego. Bonus she gets to rub it in to her sister.

3)What Ansh should be grateful for !

The years of warmth he enjoyed in that family. The fact that there was another mother who took care of him and was loved so much that he never felt the absense of Mo mom. That Ved accepted Ansh as her own son.

Not I repeat for her decision not to have kids of her own . He does not owe her anything for her decision. And certainly not to the extent he has to overcompensate for it. That decision was taken be her only.

Case in point when ved got on his case 24/7 to marry ruby He naturally snapped back in irritation. Poor guy was so stricken with guilt like "how dare i argue back with my mom She gave up kids for me after all " Ved didn't help matters either by getting emotional "My son argued with me for the first time that means he doesn't love me anymore "

He should be grateful to the extent that he can lead his own life. "Not that i must follow blindly or I'm being ungrateful for my mom sacrificed kids for me " song.

Which reminds of a scene from the film Mughal le azaam When Akbar tried the same stunt on Salim to give up Anarkali by recounting all the sacrifices he made. In response Salim said one powerful line which i cant remember fully. It was on the lines of "Must I be accountable for every breath i take for the rest of my life ? "

Now Salim was masterful. He was his own man. He knew how to hold his ground without giving in to emotional blackmail. At the same time he was respectful to his parents. That is the type of character id like to see on Indian Tv.

4)Strong and Independent mothers

Why did you'll associate Mohana to that ? I didn't even mention her in the post.

Since most of the misunderstandings seem to arise from that.

I'll give you a tv eg of what i meant by Strong and Independent mothers

You are familiar with tv serial maharana Pratap. I consider Maharani Jay vantha bai (MJ) as a wonderful eg of a strong Independent mother

She trained him and brought him up singlehandedly. She taught him to respect the other wives as his mothers. She shared him with the other mothers . And they were vamps by the way . One of them wanted to dethrone pratap for personal ambition. Although one could argue deep down she did love pratap as a son but just pushed it aside for personal greed.

Now MJ could have played the victim card here "my husband cheated on me multiple times you cannot treat my sauth as mom. You are my whole life. You must listen only to me.

No she was secure in her son's love to share him with the other moms.

She knew they had bad intentions. She fought to save him from them at same time preserved his innocence. At no time did she resort to emotional blackmail.

The recounting of all the sacrifices she made. She didn't need to.

Maharana Pratap knew what his mom did for him and respected her immensely for it. He didn't need to be reminded of it and he certainly wasn't grateful for it.

And it didn't hold him back from disagreeing with her from time to time or having healthy rebellions like a normal teenager.

Not only that considering all the crap that went on her life she could have held on to him. She had a powerful emotional weapon of her own. But she selflessly gave him up for the country knowing even he could die.

She wasn't obligated to do that. She let him struggle by himself get hurt and get up . She trusted his decisions and knew when to step back. She didn't mollycoddle him That too when his life was under threat. She knew his strengths and capabilities.

She even wonder of wonders handed him over to another women at the time of marriage. Oh yeah she knew who her son liked and supported his choice wholeheartedly.

Now that type of woman I can respect.

I'm well aware I bashed a beloved tv character of yours. I accept all your viewpoints and your bashing's However I'm sorry i cannot accept those arguments as valid.

Lastly thank you all for participating in this discussion. I needed a space to vent. It was quite therapeutic.

Originally posted by: Carmilla

In yesterday's episode Vshree was at her irritating best . She's treating Ansh as a property to be owned , and not as an individual human being. She has no respect for his privacy , she wants to just rain on his judgement and own thinking with her tears and suffocate the poor boy with her mamta . 😵 Dhabba on the name of motherhood.

Even after Ansh clarified that he needs to be alone , only his true mom respected his wish and of course nakli wali came running to brain wash him at an instant ! Nowadays the CVs are making it obvious that Vshree is wrong mother for Ansh and only Mohona is the true one.

Shekhar bhi kuch kam dramebaaz nehi hai 🤢, when you see this guy is in so much pain , he again emotionally blackmails Ansh by talking about Vshree's sacrifice , when the truth is Vshree wouldn't have been needed had MO not been forced to separate from her own children.

Khud bhi bande ko kuch sochen do. 🥱

Moreover , Vshree talks about MO in a way that is simply offensive , "Ye aurat.. ", "Iski baat mat sun, meri baat sun.. mein teri maa hu, tu bas mera beta hai... bla bla bla.. " copybook definition of emotional blackmailing and brain wash. Bete ki dard ki koi fikar nehi, bas fikar hai to Ansh kisko apna maa manti hai 😕

Jaisi ki koi competition chalu hai, jisme Ansh ek trophy hai 😡

Fantastic ways to keep a 22 year old man child in control ! 👏 Daayan chakra se bhi bhayanak, daayan chakra se bhi jyada asardar ! 👏

There's a bengali saying that goes- Maa er cheye masir dorod besi.. , this metaphor suits best in this case.

The saddest thing is Ansh is again getting trapped in this mamta chakra of Vshree n once again mata drugged Ansh is back to annoy us.

Couldn't wait for Ansh to become full fledged Daavansh , or else this show is doomed.

Mo was right , jo apne behen ki nehi ho saki , wo apne behen ke bachho ki kya hogi ? " 🤢

Originally posted by: sammy17

Oh and @TM I apologise if my reply to your topic and comments sounded rude and out rightly dismissive of your opinions. I just simply couldn't wrap my head around the points you had put across, that's all. I didn't mean to offend. Nothing personal. 😊

Originally posted by: SakthLaunda

tm if u r dayan fan u willl get bashed. u have to sing bhajans for vedashree pia. but dare u praise dayan! anyways i m your fellow dayan fan and will say post your opinion and report personal attacks

Originally posted by: Carmilla

In yesterday's episode Vshree was at her irritating best .

Even after Ansh clarified that he needs to be alone , only his true mom respected

There's a bengali saying that goes- Maa er cheye masir dorod besi.. , this metaphor suits best in this case.

The saddest thing is Ansh is again getting trapped in this mamta chakra of Vshree n once again mata drugged Ansh is back to annoy us.

Couldn't wait for Ansh to become full fledged Daavansh , or else this show is doomed.

Mo was right , jo apne behen ki nehi ho saki , wo apne behen ke bachho ki kya hogi ? " 🤢