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delhigirl

@delhigirl

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Posted: 7 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: drbeth

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Neil from d start has been a simple person who wanted a simple life for himself.Juhi's death gave him a motive in life as he wanted to search for her culprits...but Avni's death took dt away from him.He considered himself a failure because he couldn't save d love of his life.He became suicidal because he thought Avni was dead and dt was d only way he could get a glimpse of her.

Yes Neil needs to find a purpose in life...but for himself.He needs to move on...for himself as well as his family...bcz it was his family who stood by him through d painful 5+10 yrs of his life.So whts wrong if he thinks of his family?The only problem is he shouldn't play wid a frnd 's emotions in his impulsiveness.

As for Avni , she needs to overcome her insecurities and fears herself . Nobody can do that for her.She needs to understand she isn't a curse.Evryone has tried and failed in making her understand this.So this time it has to be her.She is not a strong person if her childhood insecurities keep haunting her time and again.

And It's not solely Neil's responsibility to prove their love and soulmate connection every time.Avni too has to walk towards him this time.When love is between two people, then efforts should from both as well.

yes agree.

Neil has always accepted Avni with all her insecurities, damaged childhood, fears.

Avni however has not developed trust for anyone but herself.

Despite Neil standing by her all the time, even against his family. she could never really trust him.

And she never tried to reconcile with Neil whole heartedly after 10 years.

She constantly gave Mitali the option of moving ahead with Neil.

She has never once said to Neil that she took the decision in a stressful situation and she that wants to only live with him then and even now.

Instead of saying that she will never leave him and his house now, she constantly kept saying that she will leave khanna house and the family again and again, despite khannas requesting with love for her to stay back. That these children are her responsibility.

She never once said that she would like him to be involved int he lives of these children with her.

She never approached his anger in the right way.

She only matched it with her stubbornness.

She can write a letter and leave it for Prakash but cannot do that for neil to explain the reason and why she took that decision.

I have watched this show from the beginning and loved avneil like crazy but since she was found to be alive, Avni has never shown Neil that she wants him in her life whole heartedly.

she again just expects him to just accept her as he loves her.

When will she show acceptance of his love and him in her life in every possible way?

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WhtinAname

@WhtsinAname

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Posted: 7 years ago

#12

Originally posted by: delhigirl

yes agree.
Neil has always accepted Avni with all her insecurities, damaged childhood, fears.
Avni however has not developed trust for anyone but herself.
Despite Neil standing by her all the time, even against his family. she could never really trust him.
And she never tried to reconcile with Neil whole heartedly after 10 years.
She constantly gave Mitali the option of moving ahead with Neil.
She has never once said to Neil that she took the decision in a stressful situation and she that wants to only live with him then and even now.
Instead of saying that she will never leave him and his house now, she constantly kept saying that she will leave khanna house and the family again and again, despite khannas requesting with love for her to stay back. That these children are her responsibility.
She never once said that she would like him to be involved int he lives of these children with her.

She never approached his anger in the right way.
She only matched it with her stubbornness.

She can write a letter and leave it for Prakash but cannot do that for neil to explain the reason and why she took that decision.

I have watched this show from the beginning and loved avneil like crazy but since she was found to be alive, Avni has never shown Neil that she wants him in her life whole heartedly.

she again just expects him to just accept her as he loves her.
When will she show acceptance of his love and him in her life in every possible way?

@Bold : You just said everything I hv been saying all this time.

Efforts...I hvnt seen efforts from Avni's side...not as much as she should.

Not once did she tell him y she left.Not once did she make him feel loved or wanted.

She had the time and courage to break d MS and make him listen to her to marry Mitali and move on.She had time for Saesha and her dramas .She could write to Prakash.But she just didn't hv courage or time to tell Neil her reasons and dt she still loves him.

But she expects Neil to accept her wid all her flaws when she herself can't see his love fr her.

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bs123

@bs123

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Posted: 7 years ago

#13

You guys are right! Avni needs to make efforts! Yes, she is stubborn and insecure but two wrongs do not make a right. In his anger and hatred, Neil should move on from Avni by finding a purpose in life but he is not. He does not have to forgive her when she isn't making efforts. By marrying Mithali he is on the path to self destruction. Not only is he ruining his own life but also Mithali's. No one is happy with this except Shweta and Mithali, and that happiness won't last for long if they indeed marry(which we know is not going to be the case).

He is punishing himself for a lifetime as he will never be able to love Mithali. I can't even imagine what effect of seeing someone else in the position of his wife will have in him. Mithali is no Avni. She does not possess the qualities that he adored in Avni and is just too eager to please, not to mention that she is a major suck up who has been lingering around because she has kept the hope alive that Neil will move on with her. If he does, she will just be his wife, never his mohabbat. I so wish Neil would stop people from pushing him around and strongly state that he doesn't need a girl to move on and that he can and will find his maksad.

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9231

@9231

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Posted: 7 years ago

#14

I am a slient reader of forum since...what the channel saying that there is nothing story to left explore...!!!!! What a clarification...lat me clear you one thing dear sp...there is much more to explore...just remind you of your first promo of naamkaran ...it dealts with.

..saadi se pehle pita ka naam, saadi k bad pati ka naam, phir uska khud ka naam ka kaha jata hein...itz the question asked by little avni ina sadi function which she was attened with his mother aisha...the story is not about the naamkaran of a najayz child but it raises question of woman's own identity in society...its indeed a noyi soch that attaracts me as a viewrer...but reading your answer sp ...i am stund...what a hipocracy...avni has now become a mother...so there is nothing to reveal...wow...!!!! What about avni's dream of being a cinema just she wanted to do in childhood on basis of najayz kids...Star plus...

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Indira

@Indira1211

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Posted: 7 years ago

#15

Originally posted by: 9231
I am a slient reader of forum since...what the channel saying that there is nothing story to left explore...!!!!! What a clarification...lat me clear you one thing dear sp...there is much more to explore...just remind you of your first promo of naamkaran ...it dealts with.
..saadi se pehle pita ka naam, saadi k bad pati ka naam, phir uska khud ka naam ka kaha jata hein...itz the question asked by little avni ina sadi function which she was attened with his mother aisha...the story is not about the naamkaran of a najayz child but it raises question of woman's own identity in society...its indeed a noyi soch that attaracts me as a viewrer...but reading your answer sp ...i am stund...what a hipocracy...avni has now become a mother...so there is nothing to reveal...wow...!!!! What about avni's dream of being a cinema just she wanted to do in childhood on basis of najayz kids...Star plus...

Avni is running the orphanage and helping illegitimate children and she's still married to Neil . So she has her identity . Her child needs to get his identity now .

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9231

@9231

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Posted: 7 years ago

#16

but i think there is much more to explore in the show...feels disapointed...😭😭

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delhigirl

@delhigirl

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Posted: 7 years ago

#17

I disagree that Neil proposed to Mitali to revenge Avni.

Neil's character is not about revenge.

He did it again for others happiness.

he did it because the truth is Mitali has waited for him for 10 years.

He did it for his Mother who wants to see him married and settled. And I do not fault the mother in Shweta for that.

He did it for bebe and his father who have been grieving for avi all these years and how found new happiness in those kids.

he chosen to move ahead perhaps to give them a new happiness in life through him.

And Avni has clearly shown him that.

In the last few episodes, Avni had refused to take any help from the khannas.

She can take help from Mitali for the house but not accept any offer of the khannas.

She has twice asked Mitali to go ahead and give her love to Neil.

Neil never ever thought of giving her to anyone, neither to ali nor to Vidyut. Even when he knew that ali has loved her for 15 years.

In fact with her stubbornness at the Khanna house she has only fueled his anger.

All he hears from hears from her - i can't be a burden to you all.

I can't stay in this house.

I call you my father but i cannot take your help.

You have done a lot for me Neil and now ic ant expect more form you.

I have learnt to fight alone and i will continue to do so.

After the media came to know that Avni is alive, there were was no reason to be in Kashid for her.

and certainly not after Vidyut was dead.

When prakash offered to convert half the house into an orphanage and she could continue her work from there, he said that their lives are so much happier with the kids around.

her heart did not realize, how happy after 10 years they were?

If only she had accepted and said that whatever decision I took 10 years ago, now I want to stay here with you all and will do everything to take away Neil's anger.

If she had said that neil will always be hers that day, Neil's anger would have gradually melted away.

As of right now, he did not take this decision to revenge avni. He just does not care about his own happiness anymore.

Also Avni needs to stop and think what is important for her son, not what is important for her.

Neil certainly cannot because he is not even aware that he has a son.

I believe Neil just wanted to hear that she needs him in her life and that she will never leave him and his house again.

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bs123

@bs123

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Posted: 7 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: delhigirl
I disagree that Neil proposed to Mitali to revenge Avni.
Neil's character is not about revenge.
He did it again for others happiness.
he did it because the truth is Mitali has waited for him for 10 years.
He did it for his Mother who wants to see him married and settled. And I do not fault the mother in Shweta for that.
He did it for bebe and his father who have been grieving for avi all these years and how found new happiness in those kids.

he chosen to move ahead perhaps to give them a new happiness in life through him.

And Avni has clearly shown him that.
In the last few episodes, Avni had refused to take any help from the khannas.
She can take help from Mitali for the house but not accept any offer of the khannas.
She has twice asked Mitali to go ahead and give her love to Neil.

Neil never ever thought of giving her to anyone, neither to ali nor to Vidyut. Even when he knew that ali has loved her for 15 years.

In fact with her stubbornness at the Khanna house she has only fueled his anger.
All he hears from hears from her - i can't be a burden to you all.
I can't stay in this house.
I call you my father but i cannot take your help.
You have done a lot for me Neil and now ic ant expect more form you.
I have learnt to fight alone and i will continue to do so.

After the media came to know that Avni is alive, there were was no reason to be in Kashid for her.
and certainly not after Vidyut was dead.

When prakash offered to convert half the house into an orphanage and she could continue her work from there, he said that their lives are so much happier with the kids around.
her heart did not realize, how happy after 10 years they were?

If only she had accepted and said that whatever decision I took 10 years ago, now I want to stay here with you all and will do everything to take away Neil's anger.
If she had said that neil will always be hers that day, Neil's anger would have gradually melted away.

As of right now, he did not take this decision to revenge avni. He just does not care about his own happiness anymore.

Also Avni needs to stop and think what is important for her son, not what is important for her.
Neil certainly cannot because he is not even aware that he has a son.
I believe Neil just wanted to hear that she needs him in her life and that she will never leave him and his house again.

I understand where you're coming from but I am going to have to disagree on a few things. I agree that Avni is in the wrong with her being stubborn and not making it clear that she needs Neil in his life. She has been distant and egoistic, agreed. However, let's put that aside and talk about Neil.

Even if Neil is just doing this for the happiness of the family, they clearly say that they are happy only if he is happy.The Khannas are unhappy because Neil is unhappy. It's not about wanting to see him married and settled down. Maybe it is for Shwetha, but not for Bebe and Prakash, who both are not pleased. In Friday's episode, Bebe even says that she doesn't think that things are going to get better this way.

If Neil truly wants to make his family happy, he needs to do something that makes him happy.This is why I was saying that he needs to find a purpose in life that adds meaning to it. If not for himself, then at least for his family, he needs to move on in a way that makes him content.

The family was happy because of the kids, as well as the presence of Avni, not because of Mithali, who has been around for the last ten years. Neil does not love Mithali and he knows it. Suppose he marries Mithali. Whatever so called "happiness" he brings to the family is only going to be short-lived in my opinion because one who is not happy from within will never be able to make those around him happy.

If you think back to the time when Avni was being mahaan and asked him to marry Juhi, Neil said the same. He would never be able to love Juhi even if he married her. It would be a passionless marriage and that would in turn make Mishti and the family unhappy.

Neil has never been the Mahaan type, never has and never will be. Though I understand why you are saying that he is doing this for the happiness of his family and because Avni is disinterested in saving their relationship, in reality, this is only the justification he gives himself for what he is doing.

In reality, Neil's current actions are the result of his uncontrollable rage and feeling of betrayal. Once he is able to think rationally, I can only hope that Neil comes to his senses and realizes that he will only make Mithali and the entire family unhappy in the long run.

For example, why is he running back to Sukoon House to give Avni her bracelet back when he should be staying away from her and thinking about his impending marriage and so called fiancee? Clearly, Neil is being dishonest to himself, Mithali, and his entire family at the moment. This is wrong and he needs to realize it. I don't think that anything Avni has done justifies what Neil is doing right now. Just as Avni is wrong, Neil is also wrong, and I hope both realize where they are wrong ASAP!

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VJ07

@VJ07

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Posted: 7 years ago

#19

I agree that she should have told Neil that she loves him very much and would ot leave him now. But she was not given the time.

She is emotional. Before Vidyut death news came, she knew that she cannot come back to Neil because of Vidyut therefore only for Neil she asked Mithali to be his future. Also there was one more reason for this. Neil had continously said that he hates her and will never forgive her..

Kabhi kabhi hearing the same thing it get settled in ones heart and we take it as true. Thats what happened to Avni. She felt that Neil does not need her therefore, as she still loves him she want him to be happy.

Here I would like to clarify that both Neil and Avni wants to be together but their ego comes in between. Yes I would say both their ego. Remember when Avni was going to the new house, she kept looking for Neil. I felt that she was believing that Neil would stop her . At the same time, Neil was watching secretly and wanted Avni not to leave. Both want that other should take the first step. But both are giving the other the chance to take the first step.

Mithali does not have any role here since Avni is alive. But I do not understand why she is hanging around Neil and everytime in his house. Before when it was not known that Avni was alive then it was OK. But not now.

The elders should try to make Neil and Avni recognise that they are at fault. They love each other therefore they should forget everything and live happily together because what happened cannot be repaired but future is still in our hands.

But here what is happening. Except Neil's father, no one really acted like a matured person.Shweta , OK understand wants her son to be happy. But didn't she knew that he can be happy only with Avni. SHe should have made Neil realize that he loves AVni and should forgive just like Prakash knew that Neil still loves Avni. It is only his anger. But no. This is not happening. Shweta should have make Avni realise what place she hold in Neil's life and in the house. She should have told her that Neil can be happy only with her not anybody else. But what she had done. Immediately after Vidyut death, when there was a chance for Avneil to be together, Shweta was suggesting that three lives depend on Neil's decision. How three lives depend. Avneil were still married. Mithali has no place there. But what she said either Avneil stay together or separate so that Mitahali can enter. Avni due to her extreme love for the family and Neil, she acted emotionally. But had not thought about herself as she loves Neil more that anything.

SHe went to talk again to him. But he showed only hatred and was not ready to talk. He told her he only loved her and will not move on like she had done. She found neil had tied himself to the past as he does not want to forgive her. What is the meaning to stay in the same house. Therefore next thing she had done that is to free him. Atleast he lives is life. Here I would like to clarify that Avni has not moved on. Here nobody is mentioning with what pain Avni has gone through. She has shut herself denied all the happiness to herself. Is what .we call to move on. She was living with the memory of Neil just like Neil was doing. Has anybody told her to move on.How she acted by MS was cruel but also hard for her. She was broken but had not shown. Neil was saying OK galti maan li, maafi mang liye toh ho gaya. But was not suggesting what else Avni was suppose to do. She cannot bring those 10 years lost. Koi nahin laa sakta. She is accepting her fault and had ask for forgiveness. What else she can do.

Here what now Neil is doing that is totally in a fit of anger which is not the original Neil. He has lost his rationality. He has lost the questioning power which he used to do. Trying to find the reasons behind the actions. But now he is not thinking or trying to find out the real reason behind Avni great step taken 10 years ago. He believed that Avni had done everything as a revenge for Neela Maa death. He does not even know that Neela Maa had sacrifice her life to save him and Avni had done the same thing. She has not taken this drastic step for herself or Neela Maa. She had full faith that Neil would solve the case. But Vidyut blackmailed her. He always use to say that it is only him who understand Avni more. But what happened now. His anger. He is not able to see clearly. Even while reading Neilanjana's diary, he felt that this girl is hiding something and is in pain. But as he found that Avni is alive, all rationality vanished.

Here I would again stress that what is happening now is not justified and OK. Many are blaming Avni that she is not trying to reconcile with Neil but always trying to go further. But Neil is also not trying. But we cannot ignore what Avni has sacrifice. She sacrificed everything. If she is given this punishment no one will think about the family but only for one own self. What message it is giving. If you are doing something for others you are punished. Therefore think only for oneself. What Avni had done was a brave and selfless act though not justified.

Here we should not think who is right who is wrong. Because both are right and wrong in their own situation.

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srinithi

@AgnesFan

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Posted: 7 years ago

#20

Originally posted by: delhigirl
soul mate connection, unconditional love and trust is just not neil' responsibility but as much avni's responsibility in this relationship.
if both cannot provide these equally it is better that they move on for their own individual purpose in their lives.

It takes two to tango ! I agree to it . Both had to work out for this relationship . If they can't they can move on from each other but as AvNeil fans we want to see their happy ending . Both of them are at fault for what is happening at present . We can't say only Avni or only Neil is faulty . But whatever Neil is doing is only because of his rage . He is trying to move on as Avni has broken ties . It is definitely for his family but he is not becoming mahan by doing this . He can never be happy with Mitali and can never make his family happy . Did he ever think why she ran away or tried to listen to her . No . Everything he does is only driven by his rage . If he not so cares why should he buy the bracelet gifted to her ?

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