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Posted: 7 years ago
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I'm super excited about tomm's epiosde because finally kuch REAL RAW emotional Avneil angst dekhne ko milega. i hope there are no cuts by the editors! And also I'm happy because of the OLV showing ki avni is finally back home. so finally jail track is ending. that's the only positive. I hope before the next BOMB that happens we get a good LARGE dose of Avneil scenes so that we can just watch them repeatedly to get through whatever is the next track planned by CVs
Last week I was a silent reader because honestly the only things which worked for me was the awesomely fast paced nature of the episodes and the one avneil scene in jail.Dil ko sukoon mila to finally see them hug and reunite briefly. i really wish the scene could have been longer and without the interruption of the shots of the jailer walking in between but i understand that it was necessary because situation ki demand thi. unfortunately aisa LOGIC Cvs apply only in between AVneil scenes to interrupt them. Rest of the time all the LOGIC goes for a full toss. From all the comments I've been reading I guess you are all mostly happy with the way things have happened and are all very positive people but unfortunately I'm not! :( While I agree that our show is different and thats why we watch it I still feel like this track had so much more potential which went untapped. Whats worse is that we saw glimpses of it and then it was just chucked away. Everyone has split personality. Like one day avni is a zen, martial arts fighter, next day she is a deeply senti, emotional and helpless. One day she is fighting a goon with chained hands, next day shes getting hit by the jailor and RP. all avni had to do was listen to neel n not run away, i dont see why she had to willingly get herself injured- but i guess if she didnt we cant see Neil's tadap for her so in a way its good that shes in mortal peril! but why has RP not fled the jail yet after chunvaoing avni into the deewar- how dumb is she; she used to be a smart cookie! One day avnis jail friends who loved and adored her turn against her and then just as easily as a chameleon they switch back to her side because avni helps save sunheris life. Monica rightly pointed out that technically avni ki vajah se hi usko chot lagi! ofcourse it was not intentional on her part but still... magically sunheri and taara sitara realised that ther must be more to the story. but they didnt think that few days back when they were stoning her and laughing at her misery. One day khannas especially bebe are doubting avni, not even visiting her in jail and next day they are all about avni humaari bahu hai and we are there for her. neil ne neela-mishti ko bachane ke baad poori raat sirf gaadi chalayi but didnt do anything smart in all that time to ask for help/backup because afterall voh toh HERO hai. then he went and drove right into vidyut who magically apparated from mexico in front of neil sitting on the car bonnet. all this only to show that our two heros can do action scenes. and if mishti was being kept alive for the kidney then how has vidyut recovered?! did he get another kidney? ya dialysis ke liye all the way mexico ja ke aaya? oh no- he actually just went for his ROKA and his sisters wedding in his real life but kuch toh bhi dikhana that so our smart CVs decide to show him going to mexico. but i must say he's the fittest chronic kidney disease patient anyone must have ever seen- kya amazing action kiya even in his "sick" state! neela ma decides to talk about whatever she knows only in the middle of the action sequence when her daamaad is being whipped because gaadi main toh baat nahi ho sakti thi! anyway finally police does get there and everyone goes home safe and sound but the minute neel leaves, vidyut enters. Khanna house never has any protection at all...people come and go as they please! ALi is another guy who is there one day, gone the next! he's truly friendship goals- he only comes to help- no questions asked, does what he's asked to and then disappears just as easily. final icing on the cake is that the ultimate plan to prove avni innocent is basically gonna be provoking vidyut and mamoni against each other. at the end of which vidyut blames mamoni for the murder and will still obviously be shown finding a loophole and getting away so that in a week or so they can start the next plotting and planning. and he's got his trump card safe and sound in khanna house- dear sweet mishti! how is it that she is never placed in child care but goes to khanna house as if shes really neils's kid is beyond me! I really hope she is magically forgotten and disappears just like amol, rhea, nanno etc but i have a bad feeling about mishti! Despite all this BS i am ADDICTED to the damn show and mainly to Adiza! i just love them both as avneil so much that just to catch glimpses of that I will watch everything else! I'm trying to come to terms with the fact that one shouldnt have any expectations from the show. Just watch whats on and if you hate it, dont watch i guess. Feedback is pretty pointless.And i really did try to just sit back and watch with no comments for a week but i cant help but rant ! I'm glad its out of my system now! cant wait for upcoming avneil scenes...please CVs DONT DISAPPOINT. if they have shortage of ideas- they should just read the FFs on the forum.
P.S All the FF writers - Please update your FFs guys and keep posting One-shots also!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Welcome back 👏 wow that was very well put together rant with a lot of logical questions which you not find answers to and just have to live with it I completely agree with you on that fact that this track had a lot of potential which cvs have failed to tap into they barely touched the surface and when they realized it's not working they started to take the bullet train ride to finish things and that's when logic disappeared
I have been ranting the whole week about how boring the episodes where expect few scenes tbh I don't remember what happened last week but I am glad it all over,

My major issues with this track has been lack of emotion in this track expect from character growth of avni there is nothing more, Neil's backstory and emotions were left to our imagination which I am getting tired of now there were so many scenes where Neil should have been emotional looking at avnis state in jail but he did even flinch looking at her getting hurt, eg avni hurting herself, jail inmates hurting her , jailerand RP torturing avni nothing reached Neil when he came to meet her I expected him to at least ask her how she got injured or how are you avni but no cvs were to busy in letting Avni know the little bomb is alive to spoil the mood of FD looks as if directors have forgotten avneils chemistry I loved the reunion scene because AvNeil were finally in one frame after ages but it didn't have much impact as whole for me ,he heard that jailer punished avni putting her in a manhole but for that also I did see any emotions on Neil's face like seriously dude it you're wife who's going through all this but finally we will see some angst tomorrow when he sees her half dead,

Another thing I am tried of is Misthi bachao missions how many times they will repeat this I have no idea and I don't think vidyut will keep quite and not try to kidnap Misthi again from khanna house,please someone explain the reason she is in khanna house where she has no relationship with anyone, and as you mentioned khannas were Thaali ke baingan I don't know what there story was in last 6 months if cvs care to show they might shed some light on that or we will have to imagine or tell some FF writers to do the honors as I am running out of imagination

Please cvs bring back to old charm this show had please bring back the positivity and the chemistry of our leads
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I agree. avneil have amazing chemistry, it needs to be fully tapped into by the makers. especially with all the news of show being under scanner and TRP n all that. Avneil scenes = increase in TRP! now that avni is coming back home they can really give us lots of avneil scenes. dunno if they'll give us backstories n all but atleast we should get to see an Avenil heart to heart- avni's repentence for being impulsive in the past and putting neil in a position where he felt compelled to send her to jail, and ESPECIALLY neils guilt for sending her to jail and all that she had to go through there and how LONG it has taken to get her out! they keep saying 6 months but its been longer, 6 months was the leap - jail track beginning and all this drama easily accounts for atleast 1-2 more months if not more. in NK world time goes fast coz Avni neil already celebrated their first anniversary also so its probably time for the next anniversary now! and they really need to take a break and spend some quality time together...wanna see some regular scenes at home...them going on a date, or just having a meal together...just simple regular things a married couple would do!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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TRPS will only increase if we get some nok-jok, romance before next dramatic twist, fans won't watch on tv or at all if you don't give us some Avneil moments
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Nowadays in NK, everything is mission oriented. As if cvs have some target like they have to show some n number of missions in a particular week. Lot of inconsistencies in characters' behaviour. Emotional connection is missing.
Characters like Ballu and Jailor are unnecessarily given lot of screenspace. I wonder that how the same team who earlier used to deliver such meaningful and memorable episodes are now delivering easily forgettable episodes.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@Neeraja91 Not only you I am also very disappointed with the way things are going on in NK and I'm clarifying that I'm not so positive to overlook everything and just enjoy avneil's growth as a couple. I am not really happy with the show but pace is good.
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Only thing that I thing is definitely creditable is the pace. Atleast the story is moving forward fast n not dragging. But for most of the jail track I can remember seeing ballu, jailors, kaidi, etc. I don't think Avneil need to be in the same frame fir us to see their angst n their feelings! They are great actors. There are so many ways to show the emotional connection. They have done it in the past. Now atleast with avni coming back they need to make full use of the chance n give us only and only Avneil! Before they think of the next twist we need a breather. I don't want even khannas, I just want avneil to take a holiday! And just talk to each other!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I do agree they need to show some heart to heart talk betweenAvNeil.

I cannot stand it when Avni says Mishti even in OLV. I do hope they keep Mishti low key. I want the focus to be Avni not Mishti
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I agree with you

The fact is that no matter how much we like Avni and Neil as characters and as a couple and the story overall, we can't ignore the questions our mind asks and the feelings our heart expects!

The only point I guess I have another opinion about is why Avni became senti, I guess Neil's presence couldn't leave her indifferent as she loves him to bits, but yes I also don't understand why she didn't defend herself in front of inmates and RP!!!

And I also agree on the fact that had they focused on Neil's feelings, this track would have reached another level, yes we have been shown some of them, some scenes were really good but honestly many times we have been left craving for more! I don't know if editing has a contribution to this, as in if they don't edit well they might show a wrong reaction to the action/news, which makes us feel disconnected to the reaction! but apart from editing, it's very clear that the focus was more on plans/drama/twists etc than on showing Neil's feelings, we have been shown some of them on some scenes but in this track apart from trying to prove her innocence the focus should have been on his feelings as well as hers, with her I have no complaints honestly but I felt more should have been shown from Neil's side. I know he has a lot on his plate as usual but still his reactions and feelings should have been given a lot more importance.

I couldn't connect well to Khannas honestly, because if they love Avni this much, the least they could have done is pay her a visit during her hard times especially since they felt their son didnt help her!Add to that Bebe's behavior in the hospital when she thought Avni is taking revenge from Neil!These are big bloppers which made me connect less to Khannas though I loved Parakash's reaction to Vidyut. Just to be fair to CVs, I heard that they wanted to include Khannas in the jail track (the six months) but channel didn't want to, and they were brought only later but the disconnect has already happened and it was even more after the way Bebe doubted Avni in the hospital, so even when they brought them back, they did this big blopper, I agree drama is good, it might catch eyes but it should not be against character growth! Also what happened to Bebe's visit to Avni, there was a scene where she asked Ali to arrange a visit for her!

The inmates flipping is another inconsistency, from being her fans, to being inhuman and cruel to getting back to being her supporters!!

There were many other bloppers in the rescue mission etc, few simple details could have made things more believable and relatable. For example when Balu was showing the house to Neil (Oncar Singh), he showed him a back exit, why this wasn't used?!, ok switching off the light and the smoke bombs are good as a distraction but why did he push the trolley on the stairs and wanted to go out from the main exit!!! and how come they couldn't catch him while they had weapons and he had actually a hindrance in the form of the trolley which had Mishti and Neela on it! The sensible thing I suppose was Neil dstracting them with smoke and switched off lights while he goes out with Neela and Mishti from the back exit, then if they needed Ballu to still know Neil took them away, they could have shown him seeing them from the window thus giving enough believable time for Neil to reach his car with Mishti and Neela before the guards run after him!! I thought the main idea was to take Neela and Mishti without anyone noticing them!

I also wonder how could this drive take so much time, when they left it was night and when they were blocked by Vidyut and his goons it was daylight!

Another thing I saw from OLVs which I found not suitable to the situation, is Neil kidnapping Avni to bring her to the Khanna house! I mean seriously, giving her a mini heart attack is all what was missing! Ok he wanted to make it special but how is getting her scared after all the bad times she has been through is special!! if it was in some other circumstance, it could still be little bit overlooked though I honestly totally disagree with these kind of ways, but now that was kind of reckless. He could have just blinfolded her and told her he is going to take her to some special place, she would have been equally happy and without going through tension, I mean how is their life lacking any spice, they have been through all kind of khataranak adventures, so there was absolutely no need for all that!

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All this being said, I still say that I liked the jail track overall, it was kind of fresh and we got some really good scenes, especially in the beginning, I think the scenes in Neil's cabin were good, when Avni was cursing herself for getting weak in front of Neil, when Neil was hell scared when she disppeared and was relieved and emotional when she came back, the "dil diya gallan" scene when she confronted him and he said "sunayi deta hai yeh dil aaj bhi kiski naam se dadhakta hai", I might be in the minority but I liked the interrogation scene post Sunehri getting caught with the blueprint. I liked how leads were shown smart though for drama it was shown as of no use many times LOL but still seeing them thinking and trying to do something even if not fully successful is better than seeing them inactive and clueless. So I wouldn't negate the positive things even when I clrealy see the bloppers and some inconsistencies, I also heard of the pressure the channel has on CVs, they don't always show what they want, many times channel interfers by making them show something they don't want to or preventing them from showing something they want to! but yes they also falter for whatever reason, now it's not like it's always channel's fault! Obviously I don't know how things really work only people who work in the industry can really know who calls the shots and how.

I also still maintain that AvNeil are amongst the best well written characters on indian tv and their growth as a couple and as individuals is good as well.

But there is always scope for improvement, indian tv has a very long way to go, for now I'm appreciating the positive things in the show but I can also see its flaws!

Being positive overall doesn't make us delusional, we just overlook some things, because honestly in our real life there are more important things to fight for and ponder over!😊
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Posted: 7 years ago
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This is so so true, each and every point!hats off to you girl!!
I too have felt time amd again that they had a real good potential with this track which was never put to good use. And thus, more or less I too have been silently reading the episode discussion without putting in too many efforts to analyze the episodes.

In all honesty, I have stopped looking for logic, which I used to do some 2-3 weeks back. For me too the thing that worked was the pace. But the thing I hated the most was yellow. I really thought we could get immense stuff from avni and she would turn into ananya, break free and plan a revenge against vidyut, not forgive neil as easily as she did etc etc.
Neil's pov, need for Neo was never shown. This has been pointed on the forum time and again.Infact, I never thought they would end the neo character so early and abruptly. Neo had potential too. But Vidyut found out about him way too early. I would have loved it if Neil was able to convince him that Neo was someone else, a female and Vidyut believing that. Even, the fact that, Neil beimg incharge of the jail, how did RP ever come to the same jail? Why didn't Neil do anything to shift her to some other jail, I mean he might have that kind of power, being a senior "officer" and all that.


Vidyut, how did he become MLA, his political connections were all left upto imagination. Don't want to go into CKD details. Dialysis toh ek baar bhi nai suna.

Characters like sunehri, their back stories were never told. Why? She could have been instrumental in Vidyut's down fall.

I detested the increasing screen space for Ballu and jailer and decreased space for Ali and Dd. Far better actors, less number of dialogues.

Don't want to start about Mishti. She doesn't exist for me. The chidiya has to fly away. But I think either her departure will be very abrupt, just like Mehta's or will never happen. Sadly, she will be Neil and avni's, (a couple who haven't even kissed yet) FIRST PILLU.

I Am just glad that this track is ending , and hopefully ,yet again, I am still looking forward to the potential in their next track. But first, loads of avneil scenes.


Edited by Globetrotter_me - 7 years ago

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