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Posted: 7 years ago
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I maybe was truly waiting for your post today on regarding of neil as whole forum almost has been against neil's action in this tract. Very welly penned down.👍🏼
Few days ago there disagreement comments were exchanged between you n me in your post. Yes I was one of them who criticized n sometimes bashed neil left right n centre in juhi track as I felt his characterization was completely shown wrong way showing his exaggerated impulsiveness for juhi,blindly faith on her,no actions against her where he had scope to do many things. But frankly I feel old Neil Khanna has back in this track. I completely understand his helplessness . Vidyut's shrewd trap n the system of law have closed his every door of rescuing Avni. Yes he one matter has done that he never did its for the 1st time he has hidden his plan from avni. I think he intentionally does it that has been made avni fully rock in emotionally. N as his own punishment he has taken avni's deep misunderstanding ,distrust on him. I agree he could share his plan with her but cvs basically wanted a genuine separation between them not any show off separation like previous that's why no co operation of avni's in neil's plan this time. It's a new journey of avneil like prior post leap. Neil converted her once from ananya verma into avni khanna n same he has now made her ananya verma n in near future same neil will again convert her into avni khanna. This is the based of avneil's journey. They will start their journey once again newly as ananya n neo. Previous ananya was mysterious person to neil but this time neo will be mysterious person to ananya.
Many times neil's actions I felt wrong but the matter I never felt that neil never underestimated ananya verma n her qualities. He always impressed on her intelligence but only opposed her destructive avatar. It's also wrong that he never wants ananya verma. If ananya verma didn't touch his heart he would not enable to be neo.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Also Neel until now has been shown accepting avni despite her baggage and her "dhoka" because he could see where it came from. So now for him to say I want avni not ananya is not ok because ananya is a part of avni. It is her defense mechanism when she needs to deal with the world. Neel already knows that. He's the guy who would like to give all criminals a second chance . He was that idealistic. So now for him to punish avni for no fault by not telling her what's going on goes against everything he is. He is the calm rational cop. He is the comm unicator. He does not hide things even if it was about his past. But avni he knew was not like that. She is learning to trust a nd open up. Shestilll does not believe that Neil would trust her Without proof. but neil is the only one who's broken most if her walls. He's the one she trusted the most. She knew that despite all her flaws and jmpulsiveness Neil would get it and protect her. She has definitely started thinking a lot more about the consequences of her actions and now she only pulps stunts when she is desperate. Like when Neel was dying of guilt she went to RM despite being told not to. And she went behind mishti because she had to save the child. And she entered the crime scene because she felt Neil doesn't believe her so she needed to find evidence

Neil needed to realise that avni would take care of herself if he spoke to her properly. Sending her to vidyut was never an option because that was just vidyut pushing neils buttons. So he could either arrest avni based on available rvidence or collect proof to prove her innocence. He can see for himself his the law has been manipulated and how avni is paying for a crime she didn't commit and he's reacting exactly like avni did...by becoming neo

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Posted: 7 years ago
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I wondered about many of the things u mentioned even before making this post, like how this will break her, make her feel that she is alone and not trusted, but we know Neil has always been known for his extreme ways, I don't agree about his ways all the time, but it's not something out of character, for example he was going to get married to Rhea (fake marriage) to disclose DVM, he staged a whole scene suggesting him having an affair with Rhea to prove Avni's innocence, he planned leaving the altar, staging Juhi's death in front of his own parents and family without telling them (which was very shocking) and made it pass as Ragini Pandit did it. All these were extreme things honestly!

As I said I don't know given his situation, if there was any other way out of this, all evidence being against Avni (the way it was shown in the show, logic wise it might be debatable) she was going to be arrested anyways and Vidyut being behind her. Neil understood the lenghts Vidyut can go to, he knows he is not an ordinary criminal, so he wanted to protect her from Vidyut till he proves her innocence, and I feel he thought that jail is the only place to keep her away from Vidyut as he will keep an eye on her as a DCP and also because it won't be easy for Vidyut to reach there with Neil and his team being there as easily as he could have reached Avni in some other place.

About the vigilante part, I feel Neil understood that not everything and everyone can be dealt with by the means of law, at least not all the time (in the crime scene he said Avni tumhe pata nahi Vidyut kis had tak aage bar chuka hai") but the difference here is that Neil has his steps planned, his aim is not to kill Vidyut but to weaken him and then take him down especially knowing Vidyut's high profile contacts and the fact that he is taking part in elections. Neil's biggest problem with the extreme version of Ananya Varma's avatar is her urge to break the law even when there are other ways to deal with the problem, and mainly her urge to kill, she tried to kill DVM (understandable), and pointed a gun at Amol and at Juhi.

Another thing about Neil even when he breaks the law for a while, it's only till he gets evidence to show to the law, Avni doesn't care much about this part.

Anyways I can't pretend knowing exactly what Neil's plans are, I still need to watch the upcoming episodes, from his scene with Neela, he said he can't see Avni paying for a crime she didn't commit, while she is innocent, so I feel there is still more to his stance than meets the eye, I'm still trying to know what he wants exactly (I know he wants Avni's innocence, and protection but how his plan would help at that is yet to be seen)

And it's absolutely fine if you love Avni more, we all love Avni and I know she had a painful past and I agree I feel for her most in this track as no matter what were the wrong decisions she made due to her past or impulsiveness she will suffer a lot, she will have to relive her past and this time thinking Neil doesn't trust her worse even she thinks he doesn't even really love her, it is all heartbreaking but at the same time I can't be oblivious to Neil's feelings and his intentions or want him to suffer as I know he is suffering as much as her.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I also agree that Avni doesn't hate Neil and she will never do. She is hurt, and now she is focusing all her efforts on one single purpose : Vidyut's destruction. It's her defense mechanism, her way of dealing with her pain, concentrating on her purpose helps as well in diverting her attention from her heartbreak and planning to punish the person who framed her and made her lose her love and her happy family.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Keeping aside the fact that who is right and who is wrong, I enjoyed the episode thoroughly and I can sense that coming episodes are also going to be exciting. In the previous track AvNeil were together but still I couldn't connect to it but in this track although AvNeil are separated, I find it more appealing.
Everybody cannot be right every time and that is what makes a story. Again it will be too early to judge Neil's action because we are yet to see what he did or didn't do for Avni in those six months and what is his opinion about what Avni has become in these six months. Over analysing the positive characters in a negative way will only spoil the mood of the story
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: arshisfan

@Merav

I also agree that Avni doesn't hate Neil and she will never do. She is hurt, and now she is focusing all her efforts on one single purpose : Vidyut's destruction. It's her defense mechanism, her way of dealing with her pain, concentrating on her purpose helps as well in diverting her attention from her heartbreak and planning to punish the person who framed her and made her lose her love and her happy family.


Yes avni can never hate Neil...her love is the most selfless kind...she is deeply hurt by his mistrust on her. Yeah in future she might be reluctant to comeback in to Neil's life..since she lost trust on relationships. And I totally understand why Neil didn' want to tell avni...first to save her...second he must have after going to jail avni will start hating Neil it will divert her concentration from vidyuth to Neil. But lil does Neil know that inspite of all ananya is thinking to destroy vidyuth...
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Yes Neil is in love with Avni in her both avatars (Avni and Ananya), he saw the fearless, determined Ananya Varma and she won his heart since the very first day, she was different, determined, risk loving, and mysterious, she completely fascinated him in her Mrs Ajooba avatar. What Neil meant by saying he wants his Avni, is Ananya Varma's destructive avatar, he loves her shrewndess but her urge to kill and do something drastic isn't the thing he aproves of, otherwise we know he sees her as an equal, as an intelligent, ressourceful woman, that's why he trusted her in the Goa track, he knew she won't cross limits then as it was more his past than hers and everything was perfectly planned, so it's not like he doesn't like her as Ananya, his problem is the extreme version of Ananya that can be self destructive as well as destructive.


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Posted: 7 years ago
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I guess keeping the hisaab kitab of such two wonderful characters is the problem, why can't people consider them as a one unit AvNeil. Both love each other immensely and can go to any lengths for the other, they are bound to make mistakes also as there are many factors that impact their decisions but when the intentions are pure and so is the love, why the blame game! This is not the case of some couple who have a love hate story where the hero keeps hurting the heroine on purpose and mistrusting her and getting free with a single sorry while the heroine who went through hell forgives him easily. AvNeil are different because not even in their wildest thoughts they would think about hurting each other on purpose.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: arshisfan

@DragonFire

I guess keeping the hisaab kitab of such two wonderful characters is the problem, why can't people consider them as a one unit AvNeil. Both love each other immensely and can go to any lengths for the other, they are bound to make mistakes also as there are many factors that impact their decisions but when the intentions are pure and so is the love, why the blame game! This is not the case of some couple who have a love hate story where the hero keeps hurting the heroine on purpose and mistrusting her and getting free with a single sorry while the heroine who went through hell forgives him easily. AvNeil are different because not even in their wildest thoughts they would think about hurting each other on purpose.


Completely agree they will never think of hurting each other on purpose..For instance,Neil didnt mistreat Avni thou she cheated and married him,instead he helped her take her revenge the legal way and in this process fell in luv wit her..Not once did he illtreat her like other Male leads..Neil is hurting Avni for a reason..Hes gettin hurt more than her in this process..How can any man go and tel his wife tat a guy lusts for her..Neil knows Avni..Wud she keep queit if she knows abt Vidyut..naa she mite even go and kill him..Even if Neil told her the plan and asked her to trust him,im sure she wud have made plan B too..Not tat she doesnt trust Neil,but her Nature is such to take impulsive decisions..Vidyut has trapped Avni frm all ways..Vidyut has the money and power to buy the law and Neil is aware of tat..Lille did Neil n Neela imagine tat she wud turn into Ananya again..Tat moment they jus thought abt protecting her from Vidyut..If Neil himself was ready to shoot Vidyut if Neela hadnt stopped him ,,imagine to wat extent Avni cud go too whn she knws the truth abt Vidyut..
And abt Neil not able to get justice for Avni al these 6 months..Vidyut has planned quiet smartly wit al evidences towards Avni..Im sure even Avni didnt help in the interrogation..Only if Avni tells Neil wat exactly happened tat day ,he wudnt knw anythin,,n i doubt she told any1..She thinks Neil has never loved her.Im sure there is more to the 6 months,and we wil get to know thru the episodes as to wat happened..
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Posted: 7 years ago
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It doesn't matter who is right or wrong, I am just loving this whole track and all the healthy interesting POV and discussions.

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