Veer's hypnotism - Page 3

Originally posted by: forest_foliage

The consummation scene was a classic reversal of roles - Bani being ecstatic & passionate & Veeranshu being calm & restrained - because of the guilt of tossing Bani that badly ! I agree with everyone that Veeranshu wanted Bani to take the lead & he followed her cues accordingly. The scene was subtle & well executed, had just the right degree of emotions & was presented beautifully. VAni relationship definitely has Shivji's sanction & approval, but don't know if the makers would focus on showing the cosmic connection between them.

Regarding the hypnotic effect, one thing is quite strange that Veer remembers everything clearly that happens prior to the hypnosis & even during the hypnosis. He can't detect what's going wrong when he should be the first one to understand that he's being controlled by an external force. During that Naagfani effect, he understood that he's losing control on himself, but in this case he is clueless. Perhaps this is just a trope to highlight Bani as the ultimate saviour !

Agreed that this was a case of role reversal. In the early parts of the date, Veer was his usual teasing self - smirking while opening the champagne, knowing she's trying to tell him she doesn't drink, and the whole thing with the rose. He was leading at that point, and to me it felt like after that he let Bani take the lead, esp when it started raining and from then. Veer probably expected the date to end at some nice dancing, but the rain kicked it up a notch.

I really enjoyed the scene in the gazebo - it had the right amount of heat, sweetness, and the pull was there from both sides. I loved seeing Bani as ecstatic and into this as Veer...we've seen so little from her side, but her enthusiastically teasing or coming closer to Veer felt natural and beautiful.

I feel like the bells were intended as a sign of Shivji's approval of this union, and as I said earlier, I don't think he would have allowed the marriage to happen in the first place if this was not intentional. But IDK if they'd show that.

I think this possession works differently to the naagfani, which was a foreign substance inside his body. This is just something that makes him lose control and blurt out the anger that's already within him. I guess we're calling it possession but it's not really that...it's like if someone just cranked up the "Anger" meter inside your body so every other emotion is muted in that moment. IDK exactly how it works though, but it feels like Chandrakala is that voice in his head saying "get angry, get mad" and according to the situation, he does.

Originally posted by: J2lover

I don't know why people felt he was possessed at all yesterday! According to me, his spell broke in the bedroom itself when he was talking to bani! Well, they don't clarify anything ever, so I assume seeing bani emotional maybe made him come back to normal!😆(Who knows!)

After then, throughout the date, I didn't find any sign of possession!😳

I found his expressions rather intense and brooding than possessed mahn!😆

Also, its sure that moon has nothing to do with veer's hypnosis at all! As I had mentioned before, moon was just a medium for maarkaat's powers to get activated on its host!

Also, the reason we see veer fully under maarkaat's control is her own mindset too! Balwant triggered her anger yesterday saying, aadi-naagin defeated her!

Now she's more hell bent on destroying her! Maybe, that's why she has focused all her energies on Veer! As that's her only weapon!

I think people were worried because the date happened in between this hypnosis track, otherwise no one would have paid it any mind. And like you say, they never clarify anything so we're left to come up with theories on our own 😆

Before the ep I worried he'd be under the spell the whole time, but I too didn't feel that he was possessed during the SR/date. The moment where he saw her mehendi, and the moment where she told him she wanted to be with him in the earlier scene...his expressions were utterly convincing. I don't think possessed!Veer has the capacity to be calm or sweet or loving. He just has one mode: angry mode.

Yeah, I agree that the moon was just a conduit for Markaat to conduct her spell, and that its intensity and effect on Veer depends on her mood and concentration over it. That's why she was all "wait, what's happened to Veer? Is he still possessed?" after Ballu left, and it's likely why Veer goes nuclear in today's ep and disappears to dance with random chick, whereas yesterday he was still pretty Bani-obsessed, even under the spell in the beginning.

Before I read the whole post... Suchit (Daksh) posted a new story where he Ponky and Shukla are lying on the floor and scene ho rha Bani is wearing that green cloth meaning Naagin avatar and Veer is trying to stop her, shes shouting all the while

Did anyone catch this ??

Originally posted by: RaniZelda

Agreed that this was a case of role reversal. In the early parts of the date, Veer was his usual teasing self - smirking while opening the champagne, knowing she's trying to tell him she doesn't drink, and the whole thing with the rose. He was leading at that point, and to me it felt like after that he let Bani take the lead, esp when it started raining and from then. Veer probably expected the date to end at some nice dancing, but the rain kicked it up a notch.

I really enjoyed the scene in the gazebo - it had the right amount of heat, sweetness, and the pull was there from both sides. I loved seeing Bani as ecstatic and into this as Veer...we've seen so little from her side, but her enthusiastically teasing or coming closer to Veer felt natural and beautiful.

I feel like the bells were intended as a sign of Shivji's approval of this union, and as I said earlier, I don't think he would have allowed the marriage to happen in the first place if this was not intentional. But IDK if they'd show that.

I think this possession works differently to the naagfani, which was a foreign substance inside his body. This is just something that makes him lose control and blurt out the anger that's already within him. I guess we're calling it possession but it's not really that...it's like if someone just cranked up the "Anger" meter inside your body so every other emotion is muted in that moment. IDK exactly how it works though, but it feels like Chandrakala is that voice in his head saying "get angry, get mad" and according to the situation, he does.

I too loved the intimacy between Veeranshu & Bani. All of us wanted Bani to reciprocate Veeranshu's feelings & she did. It was so subtle... Veeranshu made sure that Bani was totally into the moment, their eyes replaced their words, her consent was clear from the forehead kiss - their union bears the approval of Shivji 😊 but it needs to be seen what will be the consequence of this union between two mortal foes.

Originally posted by: EuphoricDamsel.

Before I read the whole post... Suchit (Daksh) posted a new story where he Ponky and Shukla are lying on the floor and scene ho rha Bani is wearing that green cloth meaning Naagin avatar and Veer is trying to stop her, shes shouting all the while

Did anyone catch this ??

I haven't seen this. I guess they're ramping up the Naagin factor, if it isn't all a dream again...I assume the hypnotism track is ending/has ended re: shooting, so this is the next thing.

Originally posted by: forest_foliage

The hypnosis looks as if Maarkaat is speaking through Veeranshu - especially that nazre neeche kar part. I agree to the point that you've mentioned, this hypnosis is amplifying Veer's anger - but after the consummation scene, his anger looks out of place, hence I think it is Maarkaat making Veeranshu do things according to her will.

I too loved the intimacy between Veeranshu & Bani. All of us wanted Bani to reciprocate Veeranshu's feelings & she did. It was so subtle... Veeranshu made sure that Bani was totally into the moment, their eyes replaced their words, her consent was clear from the forehead kiss - their union bears the approval of Shivji 😊 but it needs to be seen what will be the consequence of this union between two mortal foes.

Same re: Markaat speaking through him. Even at his worst Veer would never say things like that, or even think them. Even when he was an "out and out villain" in the beginning of the show, he never said anything like that to Bani. That was Markaat's language.

WORD on the Veer/Bani intimacy. We can all have our complaints about how the scene played out, in terms of speed or moment or context or whatever, but I'm taking away from this the fact that Bani was utterly into this moment, she was giddy with it, and the love and trust between them has become so strong that in this moment they both knew where they were heading, and they were both walking there hand in hand. It felt real. Baaki what consequences there could be, beyond what we've already seen, IDK.

Originally posted by: RaniZelda

I haven't seen this. I guess they're ramping up the Naagin factor, if it isn't all a dream again...I assume the hypnotism track is ending/has ended re: shooting, so this is the next thing.

Let's see what happens.

Originally posted by: mineforever

Could be.Even,I thought that may be he wasn't fully possessed.

I don't know if we will ever get to see Veer being the most powerful cheel. Its so lame. Koi bhi aata hai aur usse cage main band kar ke ya hyptonise kar ke chala jaata hai..

I really want to see what were his powers.

Instead of that boring markat they should show Vani fighting together against a difference force and using their powers.

Cheel vs naagin bol kar Mukta has totally forgotten the main crux.

@Bold I noticed that.May be it was about finally destined couple meeting..Mukta jaane

Logic is always missing from this show so dont know..there are always pages of analysis and it turns out to be bloopers/loopholes half of the time..

I am still wondering why did Bani go near the sea and why her escape route was from sea when they needed to escape it..

Also,since ring was back in yesterday's episode,I am assuming last episode's missing ring was a blooper then..😕

I want to see Vani fighting together against evil forces too. Markaat se main bhi bore ho gayi hoon.

Don't even start with the sea thing 🤪 what a bizarre idea.

Yeah, the ring thing seems like a blooper now. Seems we spend half our time theorising about things that end up being a production or editing error 😆

Originally posted by: RaniZelda

I want to see Vani fighting together against evil forces too. Markaat se main bhi bore ho gayi hoon.

Don't even start with the sea thing 🤪 what a bizarre idea.

Yeah, the ring thing seems like a blooper now. Seems we spend half our time theorising about things that end up being a production or editing error 😆

@Bold 😂

I was re-watching the episode and kaash ek neck kiss bhi hoti..it would have been sooo hot. ❤️

There was no scene on the table, I guess it was off screen.😃

I am curious to know what did she gift him. Kuch dikhaya nahi..

One more thing I liked was how Bani has progressed from she doesnt need help from any one to asking Veeranshu for help both yesterday when she fell on bed and during mehendi wala part when she asked him to help her get up. ❤️

Originally posted by: mineforever

@Bold 😂

I was re-watching the episode and kaash ek neck kiss bhi hoti..it would have been sooo hot. ❤️

There was no scene on the table, I guess it was off screen.😃

I am curious to know what did she gift him. Kuch dikhaya nahi..

One more thing I liked was how Bani has progressed from she doesnt need help from any one to asking Veeranshu for help both yesterday when she fell on bed and during mehendi wala part when she asked him to help her get up. ❤️

Yes, that whole table thing seemed like they did for the BTS photo shoot. It was hot though...I wish they'd kept it in. I also felt like they changed/reshot some of the scenes from the promo...the direction of the dance bit sucked tbh 😒

I think/hope she has a ring for him...I noticed that she kept it with her when they left to go get ready so I hope they do show her giving it to him at some point. Would be the icing on the cake.

Yes, I love how Bani has shed her reservations around Veer, especially in situations like that. She trusts him and knows he will be there for her, so she's okay to ask him for help when needed. Honestly it's a joy to see her open up to him like this, after so long of nothing but a hard look on her face.