Does Monil & Ponky even deserve any pity? - Page 7

Originally posted by: Minig

Veer is also a grey shaded character not just a typical playboy. I can’t forget what he did with noor usse bhi mental abuse hi bolenge. Tbh i never like veer character agar writers uske characterisation ko improve nahi karte .He is changing for bani’s love that’s a good thing.yes that’s a very harsh reality we would get playboy like veer in ever corner of a street.

Did you mean sujal garewal from kahin to hoga? & if not then idk about their characters

Sujal Garewal from Kahiin to hoga for sure I am talking about. He was one of the best lover boy and the reason why many viewers sympathized with him is that his feelings was played with. Sujal and kashish fell in love together but a sudden misunderstanding happened which I wouldn't deny was Sujal fault mostly for not listening to Kashish side of the story then Kashish getting married to Piyush and all was fine, but then she started to be mean and treated him badly after he was the one who was supporting her and been there with her all along. Sujal feelings and emotions was played with by Kashish but the reason why I don't feel for Veer like many does is because Bani never promise him anything she has been clear with him all along it's him who was always after her and forcing his feelings on her even forcing her to accept her feelings for him so whatever hurt he might be feeling is his own fault for expecting so much not Bani.

Originally posted by: AutumnColors

Sujal Garewal from Kahiin to hoga for sure I am talking about. He was one of the best lover boy and the reason why many viewers sympathized with him is that his feelings was played with. Sujal and kashish fell in love together but a sudden misunderstanding happened which I wouldn't deny was Sujal fault mostly for not listening to Kashish side of the story then Kashish getting married to Piyush and all was fine, but then she started to be mean and treated him badly after he was the one who was supporting her and been there with her all along. Sujal feelings and emotions was played with by Kashish but the reason why I don't feel for Veer like many does is because Bani never promise him anything she has been clear with him all along it's him who was always after her and forcing his feelings on her even forcing her to accept her feelings for him so whatever hurt he might be feeling is his own fault for expecting so much not Bani.

Ok about veer character I agree he is forcing his feelings on bani but bani is also a confused soul. She give wrong signals. Madam kehti khuch aur hai karti kuch aur hai. She is confused what she actually wants. Veer knows very well she loves him but don’t want to realize. He know if she spare bani then she will go with jay who is actually danger for her. More than forcing he is protecting her from evil clutches of jay.

Here sujal & veer are totally different. Both were madly in love with their FL’s but sujal ko trust issue tha but here veer trust bani blindly & on top of that he never hurt her instead of bani kept saying “mujhe maar do mujhe maar do”. He has so much patience level which I never seen in any ITV male character.

Originally posted by: Minig

Completely agree with you. I am also a vani fan but can’t ignore what he did in the past. The way he treated Noor just to save his friend so called bachelor life he insulted her very harshly. He is also involved in Noor murder not directly but indirectly he killed her from inside.No girl deserve this.

ya it’s very hard to digest how can Bani fall him too but that’s a fiction so can’t compare real life logics from such fictional incidents or their characters.

Veer was introduced as a villain. Yes he was play boy. And he accepted that. He did mistakes but he showed transformation from bad guy to a caring loving husband. Ghalatiyan sab kartey hein atleast Veer did not repeat his mistakes. He changed into a new person after meeting bani.

Bani bhi dhood ki dholi nhi hai. In N5 all characters are grey no one is pure white. Bani is meeting secretly with her ex finance after marriage is it morally right? She is allowing her ex lover to live in her house is this right?

Both Vani has flaws. The are imperfect but perfect for each other. And I accepted them with their flaws. If veer can love bani than bani can also fall for him and she already fell for him.

Originally posted by: AutumnColors

True... Jay is a murderer and all, but he never disrespected any girls to this extent. Not saying Jay is better than veer here, Jay is just power hungry and doesn't love anybody right now. And I don't believe in such logic in itv shows but in reality no good friend will get involved with the guy their best friend had a 1 night stand with even Bepannah had a weird content of two people falling in love with their dead spouse husband/Wife. Even though I like Harshad and Jennifer I could never like the show because the content is so weird.

Stop finding logic in ITV because its not there. Just watch shows as entertainment purpose. Especially logic and Naagin are poles apart.

Originally posted by: _NINA_

Veer was introduced as a villain. Yes he was play boy. And he accepted that. He did mistakes but he showed transformation from bad guy to a caring loving husband. Ghalatiyan sab kartey hein atleast Veer did not repeat his mistakes. He changed into a new person after meeting bani.

Bani bhi dhood ki dholi nhi hai. In N5 all characters are grey no one is pure white. Bani is meeting secretly with her ex finance after marriage is it morally right? She is allowing her ex lover to live in her house is this right?

Both Vani has flaws. The are imperfect but perfect for each other. And I accepted them with their flaws. If veer can love bani than bani can also fall for him and she already fell for him.

About bani’s & veer doings then whatever veer did & what is bani doing nowdays can’t compare. Whatever veer did was a mental abuse & I will never support his doing & baat rahi bani ki yeh she is also not doodh ki dhooli. Yes morally she is wrong to meet her ex fiancé & to allow him to stay in cheel mansion but bani is clear from first day “ mere liye iss shaadi ka koi vajood nahi hai” so galat hai but puri tarah se nahi.

I accepted both veer & Bani with their flaws. But baat jab bhi inki galtiyon ki aayegi toh mein dono ki nahi chodongi. Bani ko nahi chodti toh veer ko kyun chodhon?

@ bold that’s why it’s a fiction.They are made for each other who can easily fill each other flaws from their love.

Originally posted by: Minig

thanks for reminding me khain to hoga storyline 😆 mujhe jyada yaad nahi thi story kafi choti thi jab ye show dekha tha. Ok mujhe ab yaad aa raha hai sujal was also madly in love with kashish that’s why audience liked them sujal more than kashish. Even i liked him too, he was my childhood crush 😆

Ok about veer character I agree he is forcing his feelings on bani but bani is also a confused soul. She give wrong signals. Madam kehti khuch aur hai karti kuch aur hai. She is confused what she actually wants. Veer knows very well she loves him but don’t want to realize. He know if she spare bani then she will go with jay who is actually danger for her. More than forcing he is protecting her from evil clutches of jay.

Here sujal & veer are totally different. Both were madly in love with their FL’s but sujal ko trust issue tha but here veer trust bani blindly & on top of that he never hurt her instead of bani kept saying “mujhe maar do mujhe maar do”. He has so much patience level which I never seen in any ITV male character.

I wouldn't deny the fact Bani is a confusing soul here, She's kinda like one of those alpha male type characters you would read in m&b books and watch in Gul Khan type of shows. They do the opposite to what they say, Bani is kinda similar whatever she said she does the opposite of it. Everything is kinda role reversal here, Veer is very happy-go-lucky type with shades of grey while Bani is ignorant with ego issues.

Originally posted by: AutumnColors

My mom used to watch that show, I love Sujal character alot. Veer is more like his type of grey shades character except the fact Sujal was more intense with his love and Veer is more of a chill out type character. Sometimes I wish to see more intensity in Veer too rather than laughing most the times I wish he was more serious type.

I wouldn't deny the fact Bani is a confusing soul here, She's kinda like one of those alpha male type characters you would read in m&b books and watch in Gul Khan type of shows. They do the opposite to what they say, Bani is kinda similar whatever she said she does the opposite of it. Everything is kinda role reversal here, Veer is very happy-go-lucky type with shades of grey while Bani is ignorant with ego issues.

Actually acha hai veer ke character ko fun loving guy banaya instead of making him more serious nahi to wohi male ego beech mein aa jata.

& about bani yes she is ignorant. Crime master is front of her & she just keep chanting “ mujhe badla Lena hai”

Originally posted by: J2lover

True! Am not for once saying that they are good! They are bad, all of them! Even Veer! His sleeping with Noor can never be justified! Also, he wasn't the same before bani came into his life, even he must have done bad things which could be punishable!

But am just saying, giving someone the punishment of death is a huge deal! Monil and ponky definitely deserves to die! Moreover for their attitude towards noor even today! The way they were discussing about her the other day was purely disgusting!

Am mainly talking about others! Tapish and Daksh especially! Well, if they establish a more solid reason with respect to both of them, bani should definitely kill them, but killing them off for involvement in the sex trafficking thing could be refrained from! Just my personal opinion! They are somewhat following the orders!

They should be punished in the worst possible way but killing seems too much I feel! They just do not give those purely evil vibes to me!

If we take the Akesh and Naageshwari connection away, Bani falling for the guy her best friend had a 1 night stand with is a weird content. Veer also didn't kill Noor physically, but he's also responsible for her death.

The part that is predominant in Veer is his obsession and passion for Bani. Veer gives a clear indication of what his intentions are and what he wants from her from the first time he speaks to her. Bani, on the other hand, gives mixed signals to. One way she says she doesn't want to do anything with him but then gets entangled with him. She says she hates him and wishes he dies but saves him herself regardless. She says she doesn't trust him but when she feels cornered, first person she grabs hold of for help is Veer. These are kind of mixed signals. Kabhi Kehti hai ki kuch feel nahi karti but everytime he gets injured, she's the one who gets worried. She says she feels zero interest but then reacts like a typical girlfriend possessive of her boyfriend in front if Mayuri (Not going Varahi crazy possessive but gives retorts when she tries to flirt with Veer). Abh yeh sab kare and deewane ko hope no mile aisa toh nahi Ho sakta hai? She's like being definition of confusion and mixed signals. Bani's silence particularly when Veer says something about both of them is what gives him hope.

Veer ka character is disbalanced in a way that he is emotional but not stupid. In Veer's eyes, Noor was hurting his friend. Like if I feel that someone is insulting my friend publicly, I take it as a challenge. In Veer's point of view, Noor is insulting his friend's love and feelings. He sees her as a gold digger. Abh durse side ka bhi kou story hoga, this thing doesn't matter to Veer. Veer resorts to the crook method to show his friend that she is not faithful to him. The point is that Noor chose to have an affair with Veer. He just poured out a trap for Noor. He had tried to tell his friend before that she's not interested in his love or won't ever understand it and tells him that she's only after the money. He didn't listen. Veer's shade is that he does what he thinks is right.

Aur baat agar Noor ki body hide karne ki hai, toh it's his weakness. His brothers bring out the emotional side in him. He loves them a lot and hence let's his own hands get dirty for them. He simply hides Noor's dead body not really knowing what happened with her. What he knows is what his brothers told him. Even for that he feels remorse that she died. That is why I feel for Veer. He has that capacity to understand and feel. He cared for his brothers and just to save them (thinking that they're innocent). Sach tog Veer ko pata hi nahi. So, it isn't entire to be blamed on him. Of course, it is a crime to hide a body and not report to the authorities that a certain someone is found dead but in that moment he could only think of his brother. He lied and did it for them. Now, I admit that it is a criminal act but he did so not knowing the real truth. He did it out of care and love for his brothers.

Veer's character is entangled with several strings. That is what gives him a certain death. He'll go through hell for people he loves. He could care less for his own life when it came to Bani. He could lose his life but he couldn't live apart from Bani. The same way if his brothers asked for it, he would kill anyone. (Exception of Bani).

Originally posted by: AliChase

The part that is predominant in Veer is his obsession and passion for Bani. Veer gives a clear indication of what his intentions are and what he wants from her from the first time he speaks to her. Bani, on the other hand, gives mixed signals to. One way she says she doesn't want to do anything with him but then gets entangled with him. She says she hates him and wishes he dies but saves him herself regardless. She says she doesn't trust him but when she feels cornered, first person she grabs hold of for help is Veer. These are kind of mixed signals. Kabhi Kehti hai ki kuch feel nahi karti but everytime he gets injured, she's the one who gets worried. She says she feels zero interest but then reacts like a typical girlfriend possessive of her boyfriend in front if Mayuri (Not going Varahi crazy possessive but gives retorts when she tries to flirt with Veer). Abh yeh sab kare and deewane ko hope no mile aisa toh nahi Ho sakta hai? She's like being definition of confusion and mixed signals. Bani's silence particularly when Veer says something about both of them is what gives him hope.

Veer ka character is disbalanced in a way that he is emotional but not stupid. In Veer's eyes, Noor was hurting his friend. Like if I feel that someone is insulting my friend publicly, I take it as a challenge. In Veer's point of view, Noor is insulting his friend's love and feelings. He sees her as a gold digger. Abh durse side ka bhi kou story hoga, this thing doesn't matter to Veer. Veer resorts to the crook method to show his friend that she is not faithful to him. The point is that Noor chose to have an affair with Veer. He just poured out a trap for Noor. He had tried to tell his friend before that she's not interested in his love or won't ever understand it and tells him that she's only after the money. He didn't listen. Veer's shade is that he does what he thinks is right.

Aur baat agar Noor ki body hide karne ki hai, toh it's his weakness. His brothers bring out the emotional side in him. He loves them a lot and hence let's his own hands get dirty for them. He simply hides Noor's dead body not really knowing what happened with her. What he knows is what his brothers told him. Even for that he feels remorse that she died. That is why I feel for Veer. He has that capacity to understand and feel. He cared for his brothers and just to save them (thinking that they're innocent). Sach tog Veer ko pata hi nahi. So, it isn't entire to be blamed on him. Of course, it is a crime to hide a body and not report to the authorities that a certain someone is found dead but in that moment he could only think of his brother. He lied and did it for them. Now, I admit that it is a criminal act but he did so not knowing the real truth. He did it out of care and love for his brothers.

Veer's character is entangled with several strings. That is what gives him a certain death. He'll go through hell for people he loves. He could care less for his own life when it came to Bani. He could lose his life but he couldn't live apart from Bani. The same way if his brothers asked for it, he would kill anyone. (Exception of Bani).

It's mix signals for sure but not in a bad way at all. Bani personality you would mostly find in ML characters in both books and M&B stories they behave the opposite to what they say. She can say to Veer I will kill you as much as she wants in this generation, but she won't be able to do it. "I hate you" for her means "I love you" Bani is still understanding Veer currently but in Saturday and Sunday episodes they were progression from her side be it taking Veer off her revenge list and starting to sense him in danger. She is dilemma when it comes to trusting him because Akesh did betray Naageshwari in Satyug when she let him in, so she won't want to make the same mistake again.

Veer intention wasn't wrong at all but it was nasty what he did too. He also cheated his friend and slept with his soon-to-be wife.... Noor was no saint at all but neither was Veer both are wrong in this matter but how Noor was treated and brutally killed that she didn't deserve at all.

Veer is a good and proper grey shades character, but he's flawed in many factors but I honestly feel he's praise only because of his love for Bani in other department he needs to be more useful as well. Rather than killing Sakaura he hasn't done anything productive till now, I can't believe he never heard nor explore his mansion in so many years not to figure out a mysterious lady is caged and living with them? Very odd.