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Posted: 5 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: Rein123

Ok so I understand that she doesn’t wanna leave him because she wants to punish him and the cheels then why the hell does she go on harping about I’m trapped in this marriage before Veer all the time? Why would she say that at all if her objective is to anyways stay and kill everyone? Isn’t that very inconsistent on her part?

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rein123

Ok so I understand that she doesn’t wanna leave him because she wants to punish him and the cheels then why the hell does she go on harping about I’m trapped in this marriage before Veer all the time? Why would she say that at all if her objective is to anyways stay and kill everyone? Isn’t that very inconsistent on her part?

Well her goal was to punish him right...his existence offends Naageshwari....she is just being mean to disturb him...why would she tell him I m here willingly? That would make him happy u know😆first it was coz she wanted to instigate him to attack...now that hate is missing from her tone, I think now it's habit...

Bani kitna bhi confused ho making veer happy is not in her to do list yet😆have u never seen jab ziddi kids aise hi jhagda karte hai just for the sake of it, mean hote hai...Bani is being extremely immature right now I would say, coz since shakura track she too knows she doesn't hate him...😆

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Posted: 5 years ago
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@urmita, thank you for saying everything you said on a previous page! Sometimes I find that people expect too much from Bani at this point in the story.

Unlike Veer/Akesh, and even unlike Jay/Hriday, Bani/Naageshwari has spent the last 10,000 years drowning in her own guilt and anger. Imagine being told something every day for thousands and thousands and thousands of years, imagine believing that truth with your whole heart and soul and in your very bones, and then one fine day just being expected to forget all of that and accept that the opposite is actually true. Could you throw millenia of conditioning away in one minute?

Bani/Naageshwari has always known only these things: a) cheels are evil, every single one of them, no exceptions, b) cheels are snakes' mortal enemies, always have been, always will be, no exceptions, c) this cheel in particular is the worst of them all - he killed her one true love, her soulmate, he tricked her, he and his gang murdered innocent naag/naagins in an attempt to dominate/possess her and this was all only possible because of her naivete and innocence. The guilt of not only losing Hriday and endangering her entire clan but also having to face the disappointment of her beloved Bholenaath...all of that has piled up inside her as rage and anger - both towards the cheels but also, crucially, towards herself. She has vowed never to be taken in by a cheel's sweet words ever again. It's less about her love for Jay now (I don't believe she does love him, but instead it's the residual love & guilt she may still feel on behalf of Naageshwari for Hriday) and more about not being duped by a cheel again. She believes and knows all this like she knows the sky is blue. And how can you convince someone the sky is actually red?

Even in this life, up until Sunday's episode, what did she truly "know" about Veer? So far what she's seen or thinks is true: 1) he destroyed her best friend Noor's wedding 2) he and his brothers were responsible for Noor's death 3) he and his family are involved in the sexual exploitation of women among other dirty businesses, 4) he has stalked her from the moment they met despite her protestations that she doesn't feel anything for him 5) he "married" her out of spite, literally tying her to him and symbolising that with actual chains in lieu of a mangalsutra, telling her it was her "umra qaid", 6) constantly warning her that he is evil and will ruin her life and make her miserable, 7) keeping her locked away from Jay and giving no reason as to why, etc. etc. Yes, he's done good things too, but many of these misunderstandings (esp about the family business and Noor's death) have not actually been cleared or even talked about, so it's no wonder she has believed Veer to be just as wrong and evil as his family for so long.

Even despite of all these things though, Bani has softened towards him: subconsciously she trusts him, not just with her own life, but also with her beloved Meera Di's. She now knows how to recognise when it's Veer in front of her and not Shakura, she cares (even if she doesn't show it) when Veer is hurt. She answers his questions (for the most part) and only rails at his more...dictatorial...commands. She is changing, but it's going to take a bit more than just some sweet words of love. Just because someone loves you it doesn't make them a decent person, and that's what Bani needs Veer to be. I thought Veer's revelation in Sunday's episode was quite significant - not only the part about him being a cheel but also him saving the two young children from the plane crash. Veer doesn't know that those kids were Bani and Jay, he has no reason to believe that, so she knows he's not telling her that story with an angle of "oh, look how much I've always loved you, now you owe me love back" - he's just telling her about a defining moment in his young life. This must be the first thing she's seen of Veer that is entirely selfless and unmotivated by any expectation of a "reward" (that being Bani's love, for example). He saved those kids because it was the right thing to do, and that is going to be significant for her. That will make her see that Veer is not just (or at all) motivated by selfish desires to want and/or possess.

I know it feels frustrating to see her reject Veer constantly, but personally I think it is entirely consistent of her at this point. She's taking one step forward (towards Veer) and two steps back (away from him) because admitting that she's wrong about everything that she's believed for her whole existence means questioning that very existence itself. It means breaking herself down entirely and having to rebuild. No wonder she's terrified of that. What happens if this thing I believed to be true is actually false? My whole wajood comes into question.

Additionally, and to be frank, Bani has had no solid proof at this point of Jay being wrong. Yes he's been shouty and aggressive, but she could easily take that as the pressure of the situation building up and their revenge not being completed. It doesn't immediately equate in her mind that he's motivated by anything other than the desire to be with her. There's no solid proof of his evilness, but as she is now seeing Veer's virtues, she's also starting to see Jay's flaws. It is significant to me that in the last few run of episodes, every time she and Jay have talked they've argued, partly because Jay is getting more and more aggressive (he's not exactly going about manipulating her in the smartest way - even Veer knows that goading Bani into doing something is going to result in her doing exactly the opposite!). Now, when Jay continues to call for Veer's death and perhaps even tries to take matters into his own hands, she's going to start questioning things.

Actually what Bani needs is some time and space, quite honestly. She's being manipulated and talked at from all angles (even Veer telling her she needs to admit to loving him is a kind of manipulation, well intentioned though it may be), Meera Di telling her to think about Veer possibly changing (and Bani's constant "this is not the time to focus on this" reply is significant because deep down she knows if she thinks about it in any depth, she'd know Meera is right), Jay harping on using his emotional guilt angle, and all of that on top of Mayuri and Shukla's scheming, the constant attacks and the Shakura of it all. It must be so overwhelming, all that noise, which is why Bani appears only to react to what's immediately in front of her. Veer tells her to admit her love and she retaliates that she doesn't love him and never will (never, never, never - repeating it more to convince herself than him), but then Jay tells her Veer is evil and she says "no, he's not involved in this, he saved me". She can't connect these dots because she's too close to them. Once she can get out of her own head, she'll able to see the labyrinthine web around her, and to pull it apart to get to the truth.


Crucially, Veer knows that Bani is undergoing this inner turmoil, even if he doesn't have the facts as we have them. That's why he's so calm and patient with her. From the very first moment she's built up this giant wall between them and it's taken him a while but he is slowly and surely chipping away at that wall. Every time he sees a crack he chips away a little more and she lets him. In the last episode, she let him hug her and hold her close. No, she didn't hug him back but she didn't push him away either, as she has done in the past. That, in itself, is a victory, and Veer knows that. He goads her into a reaction because he knows she will react and the more she does, the more she reveals. And Bani reacts and rails against Veer because somewhere, she likely knows that no matter what she says, he won't leave her. He certainly won't hurt her, so it's "safe" in a way, to keep goading him, pushing the boundaries like a child sometimes does to a grown-up they trust and know will never leave them.


When Bani finally admits that she loves Veer, she will love him just as fiercely and intensely as she has hated him, probably even more than that, which is probably why she's so adamant not to!


Tl/dr (!), I find Bani's actions pretty consistent with her complex past and characterisation, and I'm so glad to see, for once on Indian television, a female lead who is as deeply flawed as we expect and always excuse the men of being.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: J2lover

Even I feel this is the ideal logical way these days! Initially, I get it, why she hid her truth! She wanted to plan the cheels murder and destroy them. But now over the period of time, it seems her only target is Veeranshu! I have never seen Jay-Bani planning to kill Papa cheel, Pawan Chachu or any of Veeranshu's brothers! Its super weird! Why only Veer? Either they feel killing veer off will pave way to other cheels murder easily as veer is the only powerful one, or they just don't care about other cheels! Veer=their biggest threat is over!😆

But now the situation has changed! Veer wants to develop a relationship with bani! So instead of bani going for such 24 hrs. challenges why not reveal herself and fight it off!😆

Also, I strongly feel still, Veer knows something! He isn't as clueless as he shows to be with respect to bani! He always has this knowing smile on his face!

That knowing smile and his dialogues always confuse me. Remember? The vishwas dialogue in that bathroom scene? Something like Vishwas bhi bohot ajeeb shabd hai naa Vish aur Aas dono hota hai ab yeh humpar depend karta hai ke hum kise chune. Then even yesterday he said to Jay ke Vani ka connection bohot purana hai. His confidence always makes me think that he knows stuff which nobody else does. How is he so sure that Bani uske pyaar mein deewani ho hi jaaegi? Knowing Veer, haan woh thoda badmaash hai but he respects women and knows his limits. Even with Bani. Yaad hai daksh ko kaise chaataa maaraa tha? As if he knows how the story is shaping and where it is going.

Marrying Bani after seeing Teer's death in the name of revenge and Sindoor Mangalsutra pehnaane ke baad yeh bolna ke maine toh tumse kabhi nafrat ki hi nahi made me realize he has a lot going on in his head and heart.

Bani ka bhi samajh mein nahi aataa. She married him in the name of revenge but revenge for what? And in the last episode she said Veer ne kaid mein rakha hai... I was like behen tujhe agar Veer ko chhodke jana hai toh nikal jaa. Mausam, mahurat aur mauka dekhke kabhi strong ban jaati hai kabhi weak. I guess she just wants to kill Veer because he is the reincarnation of Aakesh.

And I agree that cheels and naag- naagins are enemies but what have they done for Bani and Jay to plan death traps? Shaanti se baithe hai woh sab toh.

Edited by Cinnamon_Kisses - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: psawyer

@urmita, thank you for saying everything you said on a previous page! Sometimes I find that people expect too much from Bani at this point in the story.

Unlike Veer/Akesh, and even unlike Jay/Hriday, Bani/Naageshwari has spent the last 10,000 years drowning in her own guilt and anger. Imagine being told something every day for thousands and thousands and thousands of years, imagine believing that truth with your whole heart and soul and in your very bones, and then one fine day just being expected to forget all of that and accept that the opposite is actually true. Could you throw millenia of conditioning away in one minute?

Bani/Naageshwari has always known only these things: a) cheels are evil, every single one of them, no exceptions, b) cheels are snakes' mortal enemies, always have been, always will be, no exceptions, c) this cheel in particular is the worst of them all - he killed her one true love, her soulmate, he tricked her, he and his gang murdered innocent naag/naagins in an attempt to dominate/possess her and this was all only possible because of her naivete and innocence. The guilt of not only losing Hriday and endangering her entire clan but also having to face the disappointment of her beloved Bholenaath...all of that has piled up inside her as rage and anger - both towards the cheels but also, crucially, towards herself. She has vowed never to be taken in by a cheel's sweet words ever again. It's less about her love for Jay now (I don't believe she does love him, but instead it's the residual love & guilt she may still feel on behalf of Naageshwari for Hriday) and more about not being duped by a cheel again. She believes and knows all this like she knows the sky is blue. And how can you convince someone the sky is actually red?

Even in this life, up until Sunday's episode, what did she truly "know" about Veer? So far what she's seen or thinks is true: 1) he destroyed her best friend Noor's wedding 2) he and his brothers were responsible for Noor's death 3) he and his family are involved in the sexual exploitation of women among other dirty businesses, 4) he has stalked her from the moment they met despite her protestations that she doesn't feel anything for him 5) he "married" her out of spite, literally tying her to him and symbolising that with actual chains in lieu of a mangalsutra, telling her it was her "umra qaid", 6) constantly warning her that he is evil and will ruin her life and make her miserable, 7) keeping her locked away from Jay and giving no reason as to why, etc. etc. Yes, he's done good things too, but many of these misunderstandings (esp about the family business and Noor's death) have not actually been cleared or even talked about, so it's no wonder she has believed Veer to be just as wrong and evil as his family for so long.

Even despite of all these things though, Bani has softened towards him: subconsciously she trusts him, not just with her own life, but also with her beloved Meera Di's. She now knows how to recognise when it's Veer in front of her and not Shakura, she cares (even if she doesn't show it) when Veer is hurt. She answers his questions (for the most part) and only rails at his more...dictatorial...commands. She is changing, but it's going to take a bit more than just some sweet words of love. Just because someone loves you it doesn't make them a decent person, and that's what Bani needs Veer to be. I thought Veer's revelation in Sunday's episode was quite significant - not only the part about him being a cheel but also him saving the two young children from the plane crash. Veer doesn't know that those kids were Bani and Jay, he has no reason to believe that, so she knows he's not telling her that story with an angle of "oh, look how much I've always loved you, now you owe me love back" - he's just telling her about a defining moment in his young life. This must be the first thing she's seen of Veer that is entirely selfless and unmotivated by any expectation of a "reward" (that being Bani's love, for example). He saved those kids because it was the right thing to do, and that is going to be significant for her. That will make her see that Veer is not just (or at all) motivated by selfish desires to want and/or possess.

I know it feels frustrating to see her reject Veer constantly, but personally I think it is entirely consistent of her at this point. She's taking one step forward (towards Veer) and two steps back (away from him) because admitting that she's wrong about everything that she's believed for her whole existence means questioning that very existence itself. It means breaking herself down entirely and having to rebuild. No wonder she's terrified of that. What happens if this thing I believed to be true is actually false? My whole wajood comes into question.

Additionally, and to be frank, Bani has had no solid proof at this point of Jay being wrong. Yes he's been shouty and aggressive, but she could easily take that as the pressure of the situation building up and their revenge not being completed. It doesn't immediately equate in her mind that he's motivated by anything other than the desire to be with her. There's no solid proof of his evilness, but as she is now seeing Veer's virtues, she's also starting to see Jay's flaws. It is significant to me that in the last few run of episodes, every time she and Jay have talked they've argued, partly because Jay is getting more and more aggressive (he's not exactly going about manipulating her in the smartest way - even Veer knows that goading Bani into doing something is going to result in her doing exactly the opposite!). Now, when Jay continues to call for Veer's death and perhaps even tries to take matters into his own hands, she's going to start questioning things.

Actually what Bani needs is some time and space, quite honestly. She's being manipulated and talked at from all angles (even Veer telling her she needs to admit to loving him is a kind of manipulation, well intentioned though it may be), Meera Di telling her to think about Veer possibly changing (and Bani's constant "this is not the time to focus on this" reply is significant because deep down she knows if she thinks about it in any depth, she'd know Meera is right), Jay harping on using his emotional guilt angle, and all of that on top of Mayuri and Shukla's scheming, the constant attacks and the Shakura of it all. It must be so overwhelming, all that noise, which is why Bani appears only to react to what's immediately in front of her. Veer tells her to admit her love and she retaliates that she doesn't love him and never will (never, never, never - repeating it more to convince herself than him), but then Jay tells her Veer is evil and she says "no, he's not involved in this, he saved me". She can't connect these dots because she's too close to them. Once she can get out of her own head, she'll able to see the labyrinthine web around her, and to pull it apart to get to the truth.


Crucially, Veer knows that Bani is undergoing this inner turmoil, even if he doesn't have the facts as we have them. That's why he's so calm and patient with her. From the very first moment she's built up this giant wall between them and it's taken him a while but he is slowly and surely chipping away at that wall. Every time he sees a crack he chips away a little more and she lets him. In the last episode, she let him hug her and hold her close. No, she didn't hug him back but she didn't push him away either, as she has done in the past. That, in itself, is a victory, and Veer knows that. He goads her into a reaction because he knows she will react and the more she does, the more she reveals. And Bani reacts and rails against Veer because somewhere, she likely knows that no matter what she says, he won't leave her. He certainly won't hurt her, so it's "safe" in a way, to keep goading him, pushing the boundaries like a child sometimes does to a grown-up they trust and know will never leave them.


When Bani finally admits that she loves Veer, she will love him just as fiercely and intensely as she has hated him, probably even more than that, which is probably why she's so adamant not to!


Tl/dr (!), I find Bani's actions pretty consistent with her complex past and characterisation, and I'm so glad to see, for once on Indian television, a female lead who is as deeply flawed as we expect and always excuse the men of being.

You gave a new perspective to bani!👏 Loved every bit of it!❤️

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: J2lover

@Red: Am I missing something here? In what context is he calm? He was always calm anyways! So am not able to differentiate!😆

For me yes... he is more calm and composed regarding his feelings for Bani... he was not as desperate as before...aft shakura he is more sure of his feelings... he is on a different plan..that's what I feel... he is now strongly using the word PYAAR...

May be Am wrong.. am seeing a different Veer with Bani now...😊

Then veer is now sure that Bani has some feelings for him.. even though she denies it by words..her actions are contrast to it..

Am actually liking it that he has taken a new Route to confess his feelings... by not forcing his feelings on her...he is taking steps to clear his image..which is highly needed for Bani to see veer is not villian as he says...

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Originally posted by: Cinnamon_Kisses

That knowing smile and his dialogues always confuse me. Remember? The vishwas dialogue in that bathroom scene? Something like Vishwas bhi bohot ajeeb shabd hai naa Vish aur Aas dono hota hai ab yeh humpar depend karta hai ke hum kise chune. Then even yesterday he said to Jay ke Vani ka connection bohot purana hai. His confidence always makes me think that he knows stuff which nobody else does. How is he so sure that Bani uske pyaar mein deewani ho hi jaaegi? Knowing Veer, haan woh thoda badmaash hai but he respects women and knows his limits. Even with Bani. Yaad hai daksh ko kaise chaataa maaraa tha? As if he knows how the story is shaping and where it is going.

Marrying Bani after seeing Teer's death in the name of revenge and Sindoor Mangalsutra pehnaane ke baad yeh bolna ke maine toh tumse kabhi nafrat ki hi nahi made me realize he has a lot going on in his head and heart.

Bani ka bhi samajh mein nahi aataa. She married him in the name of revenge but revenge for what? And in the last episode she said Veer ne kaid mein rakha hai... I was like behen tujhe agar Veer ko chhodke jana hai toh nikal jaa. Mausam, mahurat aur mauka dekhke kabhi strong ban jaati hai kabhi weak. I guess she just wants to kill Veer because he is the reincarnation of Aakesh.

And I agree that cheels and naag- naagins are enemies but what have they done for Bani and Jay to plan death traps? Shaanti se baithe hai woh sab toh.

@Red: This! She has been despising Aakesh since satyug! So, maybe that hate is too much too let go probably! Maybe she blames Aakesh/Veer for the curse too! She had to wait for 10,000 divya varsh in order to reunite with her joda!(That's a different story that he's a jerk in this birth!😆). In order to wipe off the old negative aakesh memories, the refined aakesh(veer) should be creating positive memories!😳 The first memory was written yesterday! Veer saving her and jay!😳

That defining moment when she's find about the jerk, she would be only left with veer to fall back upon!❤️

So, till that time, naageshwari is going to visit every now and then and make bani remember to see at the Aakesh in Veer!😆

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Originally posted by: psawyer

@urmita, thank you for saying everything you said on a previous page! Sometimes I find that people expect too much from Bani at this point in the story.

Unlike Veer/Akesh, and even unlike Jay/Hriday, Bani/Naageshwari has spent the last 10,000 years drowning in her own guilt and anger. Imagine being told something every day for thousands and thousands and thousands of years, imagine believing that truth with your whole heart and soul and in your very bones, and then one fine day just being expected to forget all of that and accept that the opposite is actually true. Could you throw millenia of conditioning away in one minute?

Bani/Naageshwari has always known only these things: a) cheels are evil, every single one of them, no exceptions, b) cheels are snakes' mortal enemies, always have been, always will be, no exceptions, c) this cheel in particular is the worst of them all - he killed her one true love, her soulmate, he tricked her, he and his gang murdered innocent naag/naagins in an attempt to dominate/possess her and this was all only possible because of her naivete and innocence. The guilt of not only losing Hriday and endangering her entire clan but also having to face the disappointment of her beloved Bholenaath...all of that has piled up inside her as rage and anger - both towards the cheels but also, crucially, towards herself. She has vowed never to be taken in by a cheel's sweet words ever again. It's less about her love for Jay now (I don't believe she does love him, but instead it's the residual love & guilt she may still feel on behalf of Naageshwari for Hriday) and more about not being duped by a cheel again. She believes and knows all this like she knows the sky is blue. And how can you convince someone the sky is actually red?

Even in this life, up until Sunday's episode, what did she truly "know" about Veer? So far what she's seen or thinks is true: 1) he destroyed her best friend Noor's wedding 2) he and his brothers were responsible for Noor's death 3) he and his family are involved in the sexual exploitation of women among other dirty businesses, 4) he has stalked her from the moment they met despite her protestations that she doesn't feel anything for him 5) he "married" her out of spite, literally tying her to him and symbolising that with actual chains in lieu of a mangalsutra, telling her it was her "umra qaid", 6) constantly warning her that he is evil and will ruin her life and make her miserable, 7) keeping her locked away from Jay and giving no reason as to why, etc. etc. Yes, he's done good things too, but many of these misunderstandings (esp about the family business and Noor's death) have not actually been cleared or even talked about, so it's no wonder she has believed Veer to be just as wrong and evil as his family for so long.

Even despite of all these things though, Bani has softened towards him: subconsciously she trusts him, not just with her own life, but also with her beloved Meera Di's. She now knows how to recognise when it's Veer in front of her and not Shakura, she cares (even if she doesn't show it) when Veer is hurt. She answers his questions (for the most part) and only rails at his more...dictatorial...commands. She is changing, but it's going to take a bit more than just some sweet words of love. Just because someone loves you it doesn't make them a decent person, and that's what Bani needs Veer to be. I thought Veer's revelation in Sunday's episode was quite significant - not only the part about him being a cheel but also him saving the two young children from the plane crash. Veer doesn't know that those kids were Bani and Jay, he has no reason to believe that, so she knows he's not telling her that story with an angle of "oh, look how much I've always loved you, now you owe me love back" - he's just telling her about a defining moment in his young life. This must be the first thing she's seen of Veer that is entirely selfless and unmotivated by any expectation of a "reward" (that being Bani's love, for example). He saved those kids because it was the right thing to do, and that is going to be significant for her. That will make her see that Veer is not just (or at all) motivated by selfish desires to want and/or possess.

I know it feels frustrating to see her reject Veer constantly, but personally I think it is entirely consistent of her at this point. She's taking one step forward (towards Veer) and two steps back (away from him) because admitting that she's wrong about everything that she's believed for her whole existence means questioning that very existence itself. It means breaking herself down entirely and having to rebuild. No wonder she's terrified of that. What happens if this thing I believed to be true is actually false? My whole wajood comes into question.

Additionally, and to be frank, Bani has had no solid proof at this point of Jay being wrong. Yes he's been shouty and aggressive, but she could easily take that as the pressure of the situation building up and their revenge not being completed. It doesn't immediately equate in her mind that he's motivated by anything other than the desire to be with her. There's no solid proof of his evilness, but as she is now seeing Veer's virtues, she's also starting to see Jay's flaws. It is significant to me that in the last few run of episodes, every time she and Jay have talked they've argued, partly because Jay is getting more and more aggressive (he's not exactly going about manipulating her in the smartest way - even Veer knows that goading Bani into doing something is going to result in her doing exactly the opposite!). Now, when Jay continues to call for Veer's death and perhaps even tries to take matters into his own hands, she's going to start questioning things.

Actually what Bani needs is some time and space, quite honestly. She's being manipulated and talked at from all angles (even Veer telling her she needs to admit to loving him is a kind of manipulation, well intentioned though it may be), Meera Di telling her to think about Veer possibly changing (and Bani's constant "this is not the time to focus on this" reply is significant because deep down she knows if she thinks about it in any depth, she'd know Meera is right), Jay harping on using his emotional guilt angle, and all of that on top of Mayuri and Shukla's scheming, the constant attacks and the Shakura of it all. It must be so overwhelming, all that noise, which is why Bani appears only to react to what's immediately in front of her. Veer tells her to admit her love and she retaliates that she doesn't love him and never will (never, never, never - repeating it more to convince herself than him), but then Jay tells her Veer is evil and she says "no, he's not involved in this, he saved me". She can't connect these dots because she's too close to them. Once she can get out of her own head, she'll able to see the labyrinthine web around her, and to pull it apart to get to the truth.


Crucially, Veer knows that Bani is undergoing this inner turmoil, even if he doesn't have the facts as we have them. That's why he's so calm and patient with her. From the very first moment she's built up this giant wall between them and it's taken him a while but he is slowly and surely chipping away at that wall. Every time he sees a crack he chips away a little more and she lets him. In the last episode, she let him hug her and hold her close. No, she didn't hug him back but she didn't push him away either, as she has done in the past. That, in itself, is a victory, and Veer knows that. He goads her into a reaction because he knows she will react and the more she does, the more she reveals. And Bani reacts and rails against Veer because somewhere, she likely knows that no matter what she says, he won't leave her. He certainly won't hurt her, so it's "safe" in a way, to keep goading him, pushing the boundaries like a child sometimes does to a grown-up they trust and know will never leave them.


When Bani finally admits that she loves Veer, she will love him just as fiercely and intensely as she has hated him, probably even more than that, which is probably why she's so adamant not to!


Tl/dr (!), I find Bani's actions pretty consistent with her complex past and characterisation, and I'm so glad to see, for once on Indian television, a female lead who is as deeply flawed as we expect and always excuse the men of being.

Well said..👍🏼u explained it all more clearly than me...this is what is happening yeah and its the reason since shakura track I m feeling quite hopeful....I agree with you😊

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@Red: This! She has been despising Aakesh since satyug! So, maybe that hate is too much too let go probably! Maybe she blames Aakesh/Veer for the curse too! She had to wait for 10,000 divya varsh in order to reunite with her joda!(That's a different story that he's a jerk in this birth!😆). In order to wipe off the old negative aakesh memories, the refined aakesh(veer) should be creating positive memories!😳 The first memory was written yesterday! Veer saving her and jay!😳

That defining moment when she's find about the jerk, she would be only left with veer to fall back upon!❤️

So, till that time, naageshwari is going to visit every now and then and make bani remember to see at the Aakesh in Veer!😆

After Veer remembers and Jay gets exposed, Aakesh and Naageshwari needs to have a confrontation, a conversation....not Vani....Aakeshwari needs to have a conversation where Naageshwari apne 10000 yrs k sare bharas nikale, rails at him, cries screams and Aakesh Apologizes for destroying her life so horribly even if his love was real, he needs to tell her his side of story...and Naageshwari needs to start forgiving him....after that they can put satyug and Aakeshwari to rest forever and start new as Vani....

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