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Posted: 8 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: Luna99

Who doesn't know sesha is a delusional psycho?😉
She "fell" in love with ritik when she was having close moments with ritik in guise of shivanya.
Ritik was always the husband of shivanya rightfully, and hated sesha even when she sided with yamini.
She always assumed that ritik is hers.
The thing I was saying that it was somewhat logical in Sesha's point of view about her feelings that shivanya betrayed her by loving "her" ritik.
But why she's after Patthar now?
Now, it was logical for sesha to fight shivanya for ritik's live considering that it's one of the favourite themes of trp audience .
But why repeat the same with Patthar and Shivangi?
May be it's a way to show that a shameless woman won't have two thoughts about romancing her nephew-in-law but I actually find Sesha's "true love" for patthar yawn-inducing.
Though RoSha is a hot couple coz they're both delusional to the point of being schizophrenic🤣
Oh, add shivangi to the mixture .
She's one schizophrenic snake.
Saccha pyaar, saccha pyaar...uff baapre.
BTW, blame it all on Colors.
They've a tendency to do make same type of serials at the same time.
The time naagin was launched , all of their shows had 2 sisters fighting tooth and nail.
So while that was boring to hell, the Colors twist to the Naagin ka badla show was unique enough to make the show super hit.
But then, the show went gold and the channel gave it so much extension that now nothing is left of the plot.
Plus this 2 naagins idea ultimately pushed the show towards its sad demise.
And sadly, the channel hasn't stopped even now.
After being 2 sisters channel , they went on become the andhvishwas channel, then the love child of animal planet and star plus, and then now khoon ka badla channel.
Yes, after launching naagin, all of their shows nowadays have the FL taking "revenge " against their sasumaas🤣

Not only that, after launching a crappy "Baadla" version of bidaai named ek shringar swabhimaan(sadly, though being rajshri show, lacks Alok Nath), they went ahead to launch a revenge drama version of Dil Mil gaye 🤣 , weirdly named Savitri Devi Medical College and Hospital(or something like that, I don't remember )
Tsk, colors.
You people are digging your own way towards extinction.
Even the other GECs are crap, but still they've some diversity in content.
And ekta, can't do the 2 sisters thing (I think we know what happened to bulbul in KumKum Bhagya)
@Tia, I'm perfectly okay with your comments



Yeah no, Shesha had no business thinking that Shivanya loved "her" Ritik because Shivanya fell for Ritik first, she even told Shesha about it. Heck, Shesha suspected way before Shivanya admitted to loving Ritik. So Shesha feeling betrayed for a done deal much later on made no sense. She was just demented in lust, I felt. There was no logic in her feeling "betrayed".

About her falling for Rocky, I have no clue. He has the personality of a tiny pebble. 🤣 Ritik atleast was dynamic and charming..Rocky is like a chusa aam. 🤣
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Posted: 8 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: slippery_chilka


Yeah no, Shesha had no business thinking that Shivanya loved "her" Ritik because Shivanya fell for Ritik first, she even told Shesha about it. Heck, Shesha suspected way before Shivanya admitted to loving Ritik. So Shesha feeling betrayed for a done deal much later on made no sense. She was just demented in lust, I felt. There was no logic in her feeling "betrayed".

About her falling for Rocky, I have no clue. He has the personality of a tiny pebble. 🤣 Ritik atleast was dynamic and charming..Rocky is like a chusa aam. 🤣

Why did naagin need 2 heroines at the 1st place?
Couldn't they kill off Sesha after turning her evil for no reason?
The show began with a stupid idea at the 1st place.
I don't know why ekta kapoor loves to see women fighting for a man.
Having 2 naagins was a "novel" idea which kekta messed up😭
When kekta ma'am can't handle even one heroine properly , why bring 2?
Boring😡
Btw, after the writers turned her into psycho, sesha started assuming ritik is hers but you know,I always felt she was defo jealous on Shivanya to be ritik's wife .
That's why she used to lecture shivanya on not loving ritik.
It wasn't just revenge purpose.
She was always jealous towards shivanya on getting ritik's love and it seemed like she always felt she was entitled to get whatever shivanya gets , including Ritik's love.
That was one of her primary motifs in her efforts to separate RiVanya , not to prevent Shivanya from getting distracted from her mission.
But even then, these thoughts occurred on her subconscious minds and she never really gave these thoughts a second chance.
But after she spent some close moments with ritik in the guise of Shivanya, she started to ponder over these distracting feelings.
Now , you people call her HKP, which is true to some extent.
But I want to say Sesha's lust for Ritik is fuelled from her childhood jealousy of Shivanya.
She's also frenzy for power, and yamini, sensing Sesha's insecurity , addressed and fuelled her jealousy against Shivanya and promised to marry Ritik with her.
And sesha became a psycho when yamini's manipulation got better of her hidden jealousy .
So we can say, Sesha's desire of Ritik's love is less of lust and more of her desire to beat Shivanya in life's rat race.
She didn't feel attracted to him for his personality or looks.
His only usp was he was Shivanya's husband.
Nothing else.
If any Ram or Shyam would've been there in place of Ritik, even then , Sesha would've fallen for him.
A good supernatural psychological thriller went to drain.😡
@Tia, I agree with you on Patthar and Sesha.
Btw,anybody interested in mahakali here?
Edited by Luna99 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: Luna99

Why did naagin need 2 heroines at the 1st place?
Couldn't they kill off Sesha after turning her evil for no reason?
The show began with a stupid idea at the 1st place.
I don't know why ekta kapoor loves to see women fighting for a man.
Having 2 naagins was a "novel" idea which kekta messed up😭
When kekta ma'am can't handle even one heroine properly , why bring 2?
Boring😡
Btw, after the writers turned her into psycho, sesha started assuming ritik is hers but you know,I always felt she was defo jealous on Shivanya to be ritik's wife .
That's why she used to lecture shivanya on not loving ritik.
It wasn't just revenge purpose.
She was always jealous towards shivanya on getting ritik's love and it seemed like she always felt she was entitled to get ritik's love instead.
That was one of her primary motifs in her efforts to separate RiVanya , not to prevent Shivanya from getting distracted from her mission.
But even then, these thoughts occurred on her subconscious minds and she never really gave these thoughts a second chance.
But after she spent some close moments with ritik in the guise of Shivanya, she started to ponder over these distracting feelings.
Now , you people call her HKP, which is true to some extent.
But I want to say Sesha's lust for Ritik is fuelled from her childhood jealousy of Shivanya.
She's also frenzy for power, and yamini, sensing Sesha's insecurity , addressed and fuelled her jealousy against Shivanya and promised to marry Ritik with her.
And sesha became a psycho when yamini's manipulation got better of her hidden jealousy .
So we can say, Sesha's desire of Ritik's love is less of lust and more of her desire to best Shivanya in life's rat race.
She didn't feel attracted to him for his personality or looks.
His only usp was he was Shivanya's husband.
Nothing else.
If any Ram or Shyam would've been there in place of Ritik, even then , Sesha would've fallen for him.
A good supernatural psychological thriller went to drain.😡
But there's no logic for her love for patthar.😆
Btw,anybody interested in mahakali here?

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Posted: 8 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: MuguetDScorpion


I don't care if it comes back at no. 1 or totally gets kicked out of top 10. All I care is that this track is not working and people are not liking Rocky as naag.

I expected Rocky to become something but not Naag. But I guess they thought the only way to give him importance is to make a naag. 😕


I know right! the way everyone kept talking about his secret especially his mother vasudha i was expecting something like a wolf or a fox or even an alien or some other mythological creature but they only thought of making him a naag? that is their surprise element?! like really?? 😲👏
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Posted: 8 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: Rein123


I know right! the way everyone kept talking about his secret especially his mother vasudha i was expecting something like a wolf or a fox or even an alien or some other mythological creature but they only thought of making him a naag? that is their surprise element?! like really?? 😲👏

Alien🤣
Even I thought he might be from pluto.
The only reason that backs up his strangeness properly
But this naag thingie just disappointed me a whole lot!
I'm sure even the trp audience have been disappointed big time after this huge revelation turned out to be a damp squib!
That's why the show slid to no 3 after seeing a huge jump in ratings.
Heck, even Rocky being revealed as a transgender male(born female) would been better than him being takshak naagraj!


Edited by Luna99 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: slippery_chilka


🤣 I love this. And sach se aag sirf jhooth bolnewalon ko lagti hai. 😉


I love this line. 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: Luna99

Okay. Here's my view on this whole Rocky naag saga.

See , it would've been very good if they would've decided to turn rocky into a naag early on the show, but they decided to introduce Rudra.
Then, when we demanded the Drashiv naag-naagin love story , they definitely gave that .
The 2nd part.
They made, rocky...a saanp(can't force myself to say naag).
Not just that.
Takshak Naagraj, who can apparently FLY.🤣
Now, making rocky a naag earlier in the show without introducing Rudra would've given him a purpose and make him popular.
But turning him into a snake turned out to be futile.
Mostly due to the following reasons:
1) It was very apparent that the cvs really didn't have any more ideas to run the show in the much apparent extension period , so they decided to make Rocky a naag suddenly because they thought a naag-naagin love story would be more interesting than a normal human-naagin love story they showed all the S1 and now in S2 till the pre-leap.
2) They thought that turning Rocky into a naag will give them their S1 trps back and also increase the popularity of Kvb, who had lost all the respect he garnered by playing viraj and aahil.
But in the process , KVB had to lose his all self respect .I bet when Miku and Nonu grow up, he won't be able to say them that he did this role🤣
3) Since the metamorphosis of Patthar into King Cobra was so sudden without any signs in the pre-leap days(some may argue that he did show signs),many people wondered W*F with this show.Plus many didn't really like this Rocky and post turning into a snake, people got turned off by the fact that the useless Rocky has turned into a snake instead of Rudra re-entering .
They couldn't tolerate the crap so switched off .
4) Even though Rocky turning into a naag has been very hilariously torturous from the moment it happened, I believe they could've gained back some audience if they could handle it properly, though it was very difficult to compare the post leap happenings with the pre-leap ones.
But still, since in India, people just watch anything that's "INTERESTING", this new track had a lot of potential.
But they ruined it with same kkb inspired misunderstanding .

Plus there are following reasons that doesn't concern Patthar:
1)The unnatural come back of Yamini.
I was once a great fan of Sudha Chandran.
Sorry, but post leap and with the weird revival of Yamini that makes no sense, I can't tolerate her anymore.
Even after they brought her back for S2, after getting her killed by Shivanya , I was kinda happy and entertained by her performance and considered her to be my top reason to watch the show along with adaa and kinshuk.
But post leap, her character has lost the charm which Yamu had even in S2 preleap and now just gives me headaches.
Plus her makeup. I don't like her anymore and want yamini to die.
2) Unnatural revival of Sesha. It's apparent that Sesha was once an interesting red herring that brought thrill to the show, and her progression to negativity as a result of jealousy was quite natural and thrilling in S1.
But what does the writers do to red herrings?
They kill them off!
Well , though I thoroughly enjoyed Adaa's performance in S2, I must say that I kinda found her presence unnecessary this season.
More than that, her obsession with Patthar without any reason.
I think they should've killed her off at the end of S1 itself, but due to trp reasons, she was brought back.
Well, I kinda understand her anger over Shivanya for Ritik, but I don't know why she's fighting with her niece over a silly piece of rock.(Now we know, he's the snake king)
But when she was turned into patthar , I heaved a relief that the game has ended coz I was finding increasingly that she's too a unnecessary headache.
Then EK brought her back in the most illogical way.
So illogical that even trp aunties couldn't digest properly.
Plus her entry wasted the entire potential of the already highest degree absurd Rocky naagraj track and did irreparable damage to the entire future prospects of the show.
That's why , adaa's booming re-entry lowered the trps instead.
2) Last season , we had some exciting villains like the Mathurs and Suri and not to mention, anky(Manish Khanna was back for an explosive cameo which was, in my opinion, 2nd best to rudra)
Well, Ramya mathur was kinda similar to tanya's mom , but at least the former didn't force me to beat my head against wall.
Tanya's papa is a comic villain , but half as interesting as anky.
Puts me to sleep.Yawn.
The less we say about Rocky's father , the better it is.
This guy isn't good looking. Ok don't have to.
He's a villain.
But he's so bad looking that you'll need an aspirin if you stare at his face for long . Especially if you've 32 inch LED tv like me and you're watching the show on colors hd.
And tanya.
She's boring, she's useless , she's ugly...She's every thing you'll find in a substandard roadside food stall in HongKong.
I mean, she's meant to be a villain, but couldn't they find a more pleasant looking girl.
Staring at her smashed pumpkin face for long makes me vomit.
And jadunath...He's a good actor but I don't like him.
Simple.
Now coming to Patthar himself.
Don't kill me off but here's the truth.
KVB and Kinshuk are equivalent in acting talent.
Both have shown immense growth, shades and characterization in each of the role they've done.
While KVB had a high point as Viraj Dobriyal, Kinshuk perfected the role of Rudra the Naag.
Both of the roles are immensely tough.While kvb had to play mental patient, kinshuk had a challenge of doing a role that had been mostly done by women.
Not that males haven't done it, but to various degrees of failure.
Kinshuk proved to the world that naags DO work.
Now, let's come to what character Miku-Nonu's dad has been given.
Rocky is a character very much inspired by Baywatch and rotten reality shows like Splitsvilla and to extent, Bigg Boss(which I admit, was fave show till S8)
He's a useless character kept there only to romance the heroine and make fangirls drool over him.
Kinda the fiction counterpart of Prince Narula and to some extent, Gautam Gulati.
But then , you can't compare Naagin with Bigg Boss , though they both come in seasons at around the same time.
So obviously, he tanked.
Instead of being amazed at his body, women got turned off -because of his personality of course.
I know , male leads of Hindi serials don't have any purpose other than being the husbands of the heroines and occasionally scream at them.
But, you need substance in your role other than being an eye candy to female viewers , which Rocky lacked at the 1st place.
Do you know why Ritik was SO popular?
He really didn't play much part apart from being a foil to shivanya's revenge until much late into the story , but he had at least some personality and his role as the Suryavanshi successor was predetermined beforehand , so we can say he had substance to back himself up as a character.
But Rocky is just for skin show.
And as far as I know, KVB is an artist who would do justice to substantial male lead roles , but unfortunately , he can't really pass off skin show as acting , unlike Vivek Dahiya or the aforementioned Prince.
He's not that type of person, and it's just apparent in his face that he's not comfortable with the skin show for the sake of it.
Now, there was a chance where the cvs could bring the best from kvb as they turned Patthar into King cobra.
But they wasted that opportunity by again deciding to emphasize skin show and giving him a loose dhoti.
Instead of being applauded , kvb has now become a laughing stock.
Feeling sad for miku-nonu and his wife.😭
And yes, it's a very good idea to launch finite weekend shows.
But due to trps, the channel gave the show too much extensions until the show begged Ekta to put an end to it.
But only to be back with a second season.
Since they had no idea to do it properly, so the cvs took the whole naagin 1 plot and hero and vamp from kavach and mixed it up.
But the channel pulled the show too much that now people can't wait to see the end of those show and the franchise too .
And the audience drop was expected.
They've watched the show for goddamn many weeks without any new or interesting happening.
Rocky's metamorphosis into snake was a lame, but somewhat interesting plot twist that could've improved the show but got wasted .
So who will waste their valuable time on this shit, though even those ipl matches are fixed.
But at least the fixing isn't that apparent like the sudden decision of turning rocky a naag. Plus this show happens at weekends , so nowadays even loyal viewers are forgetting about it.
Sigh.
RIP Naagin.
Your creator dug your grave and now arranging own pyre.




I think the best option was to make a completely different story instead of continuity. 😕 The characters became dumber. The new ones have no charm.
Rocky was sidelined after the wedding. He was a confused guy. Then his I belive her, I don't believe her, I believe her, I don't believe her made it worse. 😕 He didn't look like the male lead of the show.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: Mages


to be honest buddy...rocky turning into a naag is actually a good twist...the problem is EK and her brilliant dumbos who don't know how to execute a track...seriously they are expert in making a mess out of a track...on one hand they introduce a good track than ruin it with illogical stupid twist...thats the problem with S2...rocky being a naag is interesting furthermore KV excels in the attitude of a naag but again those brilliant dumbos make him useless and brainless even as a naag...ritik was such a well written character...rudra was a brilliant written character...why the hell rocky is such a weak written character when this character could have done wonders in the show with such a brilliant and talented actor KV...

you were telling...you have never seen KV as lover boy..watch Shararat...KZK(there is a little grey shades in him but die hard lover boy)...prem's love for mukhti will make you have tears...i did had those days...QH...this 3 shows...he played lover boy...

as a human they made him brainless even as a naag he is brainless...i guess when EK wrote rocky's character...she forgot to give him a brain...

the only good thing...kv-mouni looks beautiful and has a good chemistry...i am talking abt kv-mouni...roshiv god knows what is actually their story is abt...seriously its annoying...they remind me of anurag-prerna and mihir-tulsi revisit in which there is lack of trust and support


Oh yeah I have seen him as Prem long time ago. He was cute there. But I didn't watch whole.

I think Rocky and Shivangi had chemistry and looked quite interesting when the show started but later it disappeared God knows where. 😕

He is supposed to be the king of takshak naag yet he is still wondering what's happening around him. 😆 Plus the dialogues are so bakwaas that it makes him look even more stupid. 😕
And it's because he looks brainless that it's even harder for us to accept him as a naag. See Rudra was quite brainless too but at least he used to try things and had a purpose. But Rocky ? Nothing. 😕
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Posted: 8 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: MuguetDScorpion


I think the best option was to make a completely different story instead of continuity. 😕 The characters became dumber. The new ones have no charm.
Rocky was sidelined after the wedding. He was a confused guy. Then his I belive her, I don't believe her, I believe her, I don't believe her made it worse. 😕 He didn't look like the male lead of the show.

The best option would've been that there's no 2nd season at all.
Some good things happen only once😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
#40

Originally posted by: Mages

everyone has written their views...complaints...why not list down one more possibility of decrease trps 'naagin craze is over...the show has lost it charm...the craze is breathing its last'...thats the real fact...as a naagin fan myself confessing the show has lost it charm...no matter who re-enter...nothing is going to work...the only way to save its charm is a strong script...story otherwise no matter who re-enter...ArNi makes a grand comeback or kinshuk-mouni becomes the lead couple or any new ML or cast arjun-kv-kinshuk together...nothing is going to work at all...the show is going downhill due to its script..plots and storyline weakness...the only way to bring it up...the show needs a strong script...plots and storyline to hook the viewers...otherwise S3 will not even have the No 1 position after S2 disaster


That's what I said. People are fed up of the same story again and again. The same revenge, the same people dying 100 times, the same characters with their same dialogues (naagin hoon mein, ohhh please give me a break). 🥱 The same failure (Shivanya, Shivangi). 🥱

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