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Posted: 15 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: ssk13809

I definitely agree with you about Shreya, Shankar, and Shaan being great singers. And I agree with your comments on Mohit and Mika too. But Himesh belongs in the first group not 2nd.


You want to know what Shaan, Shreya, Shankar, and Himesh have in common, and Mika and Mohit don't?

They have all won the most prestigious playback singer awards (Either FIlmfare or National). Himesh is in the group of Shankar, Shreya, and Shaan.

Himesh actually does not belong to any group of singer. He belongs to Band Baja wala singer group.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: Raghuraj

Every singers dream is to sing for A.R.Rahman.

He is India's No 1 music director.


Offcourse he is not God of music.


May be members hear have more knowledge of music then A.R.Rahman.

Yes, Certain member has more knowledge of music than ARR.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: xobile



Well I was someone who said that classical training is not required to be a great playback singer. My guruji is pakka khayal gaayika from the patiyala gharana and she lists Kishore Kumar Saab as one of her favourite singers. Even Lataji said that Kishoreda was an amazing singer. In today's generation, KK, who sang tadap tadap from hum dil de chuke sanam, and sunidhi chauhan are both proving that there is space for 'self-trained' voices in playback singing. Yes, they can't do classical songs, but they have their own niche and they are very surila too.

So please don't discount non classical singers. If you do that, then you are using a very narrow definition of music, something that u have written against. Michael Jackson, Mariah Carey, Celine Dion -these are not Hindustani or Carnatic singers but they have amazing vocal powers.

My guruji always says that vocal music has lots of subjects within it. Dhrupad, Khayal, Tarana, Thumri, Folk, Filmi, Sufi, Ghazal. Even within these there are so many subjects. And those are just a few if the Indian vocal styles - what about opera, rapping, pop, soul, yodelling from the west. My point is that you cannot say one form is better than the other. It is very hard to be a good singer in alll of these styles. Of course, becoming a filmi singer is easier than becoming a dhrupad singer. But being A GOOD filmi singer is just as difficult as becoming a dhrupad singer. Kishoreda may not know about the ragas, but he trained very hard and his sur was so good that he could hold his own even inthd presence of lata and asha. The emotion with which he conveyed a song and touched your soul was not an easy thing to do.

This is one of the best posts I have ever read on India Forums in last two years.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: xobile



Well I was someone who said that classical training is not required to be a great playback singer. My guruji is pakka khayal gaayika from the patiyala gharana and she lists Kishore Kumar Saab as one of her favourite singers. Even Lataji said that Kishoreda was an amazing singer. In today's generation, KK, who sang tadap tadap from hum dil de chuke sanam, and sunidhi chauhan are both proving that there is space for 'self-trained' voices in playback singing. Yes, they can't do classical songs, but they have their own niche and they are very surila too.

So please don't discount non classical singers. If you do that, then you are using a very narrow definition of music, something that u have written against. Michael Jackson, Mariah Carey, Celine Dion -these are not Hindustani or Carnatic singers but they have amazing vocal powers.

My guruji always says that vocal music has lots of subjects within it. Dhrupad, Khayal, Tarana, Thumri, Folk, Filmi, Sufi, Ghazal. Even within these there are so many subjects. And those are just a few if the Indian vocal styles - what about opera, rapping, pop, soul, yodelling from the west. My point is that you cannot say one form is better than the other. It is very hard to be a good singer in alll of these styles. Of course, becoming a filmi singer is easier than becoming a dhrupad singer. But being A GOOD filmi singer is just as difficult as becoming a dhrupad singer. Kishoreda may not know about the ragas, but he trained very hard and his sur was so good that he could hold his own even inthd presence of lata and asha. The emotion with which he conveyed a song and touched your soul was not an easy thing to do.



this is called true music knowledge .. hey, we saw ur humor side.. but this side for the first time.

another standing ovation from me👏
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Posted: 15 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: robaroo

also the topic "Some people in this forum" is wierd

some people in this forum represents the same percentage of people in this country and they buy music - its democracy and not communism
if we just care about sur and taal then we can very well listen to ravi shakar , zakir hussain and pandit jasraj its not about just sur and taal finally , its about what we like
obviously the drama by himesh and mika and gaj is unwelcome , still appreciating gaj giving us all opportunity to hear so many talented people

Very nicely said.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: THE-LVP

HR DENIES TO SING FOR A.R.R. Do u rembr?



U r not welcome here MR SSK...

Plz this is an intellectual discussion, which will not be understood by u ..

Go and listen to HR's song
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Posted: 15 years ago
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U r not welcome here MR SSK...

Plz this is an intellectual discussion, which will not be understood by u ..

Go and listen to HR's song



Excuse me? I never said Himesh denied to sing for AR. Why do you keep confusing me with someone else?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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🤣 Good One🤣''Jhalak Dikhla ja'' Award..🤣
Edited by sudhirm_2007 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: THE-LVP

HR DENIES TO SING FOR A.R.R. Do u rembr?

😆 HR hasn't even been given an offer from ARR, how can he deny it hahaha. Why would ARR even think about asking HR, well actually no other music director has either lol Some people just make me laugh.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#40

Originally posted by: Raghuraj

Whether Mohit is a good singer or not lets ask A.R.Rahman who gave him songs.

Or may be A.R.Rahman has no knowledge of music.

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