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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Raghuraj



Actually you have very nicely put up your views.

I had to start this discussion because I found many posts in the forum by members questioning and writing if Mohit,Mika etccan be considered as singers.
My point is they have formal education or not they are succesfull singers and we have to accept that and we should not put them down or question their success.
It is the public who likes songs sung by them and make them superhit songs.Naak se gaata hai kaan se gaata hai yaa clasically trained hai yaa nahi who cares.

thanks.. i dont understand half the people here.. mohit is a wonderful singer..so is mika.. mika cannot sing soft songs..he is the best in fast numbers though...similarly mohit has his area where he is wonderful.. we cant expect people to be talented in every area.. they are different kinda genres..

you cant expect lata ji or mohemmad rafi to sing fast numbers like the ones sung by shanker mahadevan or sukhwnder sing..can we say they arent singers for that reason!!

i dont think classical trainin s the base to be a singer.. lol.. thats the most weird concept i have heard...that a person has to classically trained to be a singer!

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Posted: 15 years ago
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and raghu....good job man..hope ppl will stop critcizing and all the good singers..
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: stunninstar

thanks.. i dont understand half the people here.. mohit is a wonderful singer..so is mika.. mika cannot sing soft songs..he is the best in fast numbers though...similarly mohit has his area where he is wonderful.. we cant expect people to be talented in every area.. they are different kinda genres..

you cant expect lata ji or mohemmad rafi to sing fast numbers like the ones sung by shanker mahadevan or sukhwnder sing..can we say they arent singers for that reason!!

i dont think classical trainin s the base to be a singer.. lol.. thats the most weird concept i have heard...that a person has to classically trained to be a singer!


Actually the problem is we love our favourite so much that when they are not doing well we begin questioning the success of others like Mohit,Mika etc. who are already established singers and has given superhit songs which the public has accepted.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: stunninstar

i dont think classical trainin s the base to be a singer.. lol.. thats the most weird concept i have heard...that a person has to classically trained to be a singer!




Well I tend to differ from you slightly. Ok Classical singing is not necessary for becoming a singer because everyone can't learn it. Its is not a easy thing to learn. But learning classical singing certainly puts in you in a different league altogether.
There are people who never sing in Bollywood. Pandit Jasraj, M.S Subbulakshmi, Ustaad Bade Ghulam Ali Khan, Pandit Yashraj...just to name a few. Why are these honorific titles (Pandit and Ustaad) attached with their names. That's because they are renowned Classical Singers.
Today with the advent of these reality shows every 'aira gaira nathu gaira' thinks he/she can become a singer. Reality show mein aa gaye...bas fame mil gaya. Baaki zindagi playback karke nahin to stage show kar ke kaat le ge. Well you can not blame them to some extent considering the unemployment these days. But they don't realize music can not be learned by everyone. One really needs to do work a lot.
But then its the Music which finally loses out. How many times we hear this thing from our ancestors that aaj ke music mein woh baat nahin hain, jo hamare zamane mein thi. Well I can't question them because they are absolutely right when they say that.
So kaan se gaaye ya naak se gaaye....well it might not make difference to the masses but it certainly makes a hell lot of difference to the TRUE music lovers who really understand Music. Par chakkar yeh hain aajkal aise log bhi bahut kam hain. That is why Sonu Nigam came out with his album 'Classically Mild' because he said many great legends were repeatedly asking him to sing something, considering them in mind and not the masses.
So ultimately its a compromise between good music and as Himesh calls it rozi roti. He obviously prefers the latter option. But if you ask me I'll always adopt the first school of thought i.e. good music.
There are so many people who think Atif and Himesh as besura singers...but the fact remains their music sells in plethoric numbers. As I said before audience will eat the food which they are served.
I was so thrilled Rahul and Anwesha today actually singing 'Soona Soona' from Classically Mild. And I suppose it got appreciated a lot. Jab tak audience ko aise gaane nahin sunayo ge...audience ko kahan se pata lage ka ki classical singng naam ki bhi koi cheez hain.
And lastly I would just like to say that hum jinta marzi western culture adopt kar le but the fact remains that classical music is the backbone of Indian tradition and culture. Taking care of the classical music is like being supportive to our seniors.


PS: Please don't take my long lecture as any offensive statement. I am entitled to my own opinion naa 😊
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@brahmabul: i agree with yuh...what my point was it s nt the sole thing that makes a singer !.. a man who is not knowing anything about the different ragas can also sing beautifully.. itz true tat classical training moulds the snger in a person in a better way... and all the singers you have mentioned are true legends...

my point was there can be singers who aint classically trained at all..lik mohit chuahan.. he is a great talent .. if he were trained classcally he would have been many more times better..

sticking to the topic even without that classical training experience he is a wonderful singer..so yuh cant just say that he/ she s classically trained and hence he is a big star.. hope yuh understood my view point too!!

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: stunninstar

@brahmabul: i agree with yuh...what my point was it s nt the sole thing that makes a singer !.. a man who is not knowing anything about the different ragas can also sing beautifully.. itz true tat classical training moulds the snger in a person in a better way... and all the singers you have mentioned are true legends...

my point was there can be singers who aint classically trained at all..lik mohit chuahan.. he is a great talent .. if he were trained classcally he would have been many more times better..

sticking to the topic even without that classical training experience he is a wonderful singer..so yuh cant just say that he/ she s classically trained and hence he is a big star.. hope yuh understood my view point too!!



Absolutely. I never said its an essence but learning it puts in you in a different league. It proves your versatility. Sabke bas ki baat nahin hain.
No issues 😊
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@brahmabul: i was just telling that heading "why mohit, mika, benny getting songs?" ... was just telling that they need nt be classcally trained to get to sing good songs!..

neways..

i dnt understand how benny dayal gt dragged in here..i thought he had learned music..he was in behrain or so..won ss music show...acted in a muvi..and rehman was impressed in his performance and invited him fr singing in his MD.. this i heard in an interview of beny two days back..

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: desicrowd

I would say saome are blessed with good musical sense even though they are not trained... but with formal training in music they can bring out finesse in their singing...Mohit like in one of his interview said nature is his music, I feel that guy does have singing abilities and he can fine that art if he gets some training....it snot like he is besura... Singers (I shuldn't even call them with this name), like Atif Aslam are all techinically modified singers... he is not even blessed with music, so such singers might take 10 year for formal training opposed to the musically blessed who might take 2-3 yrs... I have heard Mohit in Khoon Jala from RDB by AR Rahma...and yes he was good and I cud emotionally connect with him...but nowadays popularity takes preference over quality... Farhan Akhtar being nominated for Rock On in singing is a shame...

Yea even I was surprised by that! 😲
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Posted: 15 years ago
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The voice in a recorded song can be made beautiful to the best.. but the actual worth of the singer comes out when he sings in a live audience..thats the thing that the untrained singers lack.. definitely having proper formal education and training in music makes you versatile and the daily riyaaz makes it more and more beautiful and worth listening..
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: stunninstar

@brahmabul: i agree with yuh...what my point was it s nt the sole thing that makes a singer !.. a man who is not knowing anything about the different ragas can also sing beautifully.. itz true tat classical training moulds the snger in a person in a better way... and all the singers you have mentioned are true legends...

my point was there can be singers who aint classically trained at all..lik mohit chuahan.. he is a great talent .. if he were trained classcally he would have been many more times better..

sticking to the topic even without that classical training experience he is a wonderful singer..so yuh cant just say that he/ she s classically trained and hence he is a big star.. hope yuh understood my view point too!!

Actually I think training is classical singing as coaching or training in a sport. You have to have the talent at the first place to stand out then dependening on your training you can enhance your performance.

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