IMV-Sabina: A rendezvous revisited

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sonali.19281

@sonali.19281

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Posted: 13 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

What remains is the real thing after a hard days work ...those two minutes u spend with ur spouse ...like Charu taking that coat off personally as a marital discipline so she cud catch the two minutes with him and his mind . The anxious reading of each others minds and the give and take of it .

THAT was marraige . THAT was real .

OMG.. I wrote the exact thing in my SS.. the 3rd part.. did u read it yet... btw IMV-Charu.. how charu waited for those 2 mins with him.. how tht was LIFE.. and in some odd way it was for IMV too.. I am re-visiting the old epis.. and in no way do I get the impression that IMV did not value Charu's presence in his life.. he had consciously closed himself.. to EVERYONE.. but when it came to real things in life Charu had earned the privilege to reach thro to him.. like no one else.. when she tells him after the CP turmoil tht the kids are worried for him.. for the family's sake he needs to act normal.. he heeded to her advice... in his small gestures he has always communicated the worth she had in his life.. even when he met CP.. he wanted the acknowledgement of some alliance with her.. even as a mother of devki.. .his in-law.. NOT anything more...coz he is sorted in his mind... Charu commands that space in his life.. whether she did so in Ishwar's psyche or not was his own prerogative.. he told VV.. not to let his past damage his present.. coz he made sure it did not.. the distance btw Charu and IMV wasnt due to CP.. they shared a rather normal matrimony in the beginning.. it was due to IMV's statement in life.. that Charu couldn't relate to.. so she deviated to her own path..

Charu in my mind.. finding out tht CP is IMV's past.. wldnt have changed anything.. she wld have only seen him more clear.. his angst more clear.. the sense of offense he lived with.. against Bha more clearly.. she, much like Baa dramatized wld have never left IMV on tht accord.. she lived to get a peek into tht psyche .. the aura of which she embraced all her life.. and it wld have done her merit than harm.. to see it..

you know kools.. one thing that's easily said about our generation is just how irresponsible we are.. and how self-centered.. but there are loads of us.. educated.. wise ones.. in their mid to late 20s who DO UNDERSTAND.. or do have tht sense of accountability.. as it entails.. a friend of mine here faces a similar situation in her life.. where her bf isn't approved by her father.. as he has better dreams abt her.. the guy is good.. same caste etc.. but he is not better than her in any respect.. and much like most father he wants a better alliance.. for his only daughter he has invested in all life.. esp coz her mom has lived with an ailment.. and been incapable of meeting the demands of parenthood.. I spoke to her.. in fact only heard her.. coz she needed someone to talk to.. its not about being mahaan.. its about CHOICES in life..

she told me..' I do love tht guy a lot.. but I love my dad.. much more.. Its my lifestyle.. my habit.. my dad.. I saw my uncle's unhappy face at my cousin's wedding.. coz the alliance was against his wishes.. but he had agreed eventually.. and I told myself.. I cant live to see tht face of my dad on my wedding.. I had not bargained for tht in my life.. I cldnt live with myself after tht.. we both share dreams about my future and marriage.. and why should I deprive him of it..'

I told her I was proud of her.. but her choice was a tough one .. and she needed strength.. i can only hope she can carry it thro.. as the guy is rather persistent.. and she seems to go in a relapse..😆but its her sentiment tht I really valued.. the thing is.. everyone makes choices.. based on something.. something they hold close.. that shapes them.. their persona.. something that's non-negotiable.. the day you have bargained for tht.. IMO you have sold your convictions and your soul.. and live a half baked existence thereafter.. something that's just not worth your statement to yourself.. to the precious thing called LIFE..

Edited by sonali.19281 - 13 years ago

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sowmya

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: sonali.19281
@Sowmya: interesting point you bring here

When people are intent on digging their own graves, we can't blame the undertaker for throwing mud and sealing the coffin. Why be unhappy when the person for whom she was refusing happiness was forcing her to accept it

I completely agree with your first line and I am not going to blame Sabina for it.. but I agree with Kools take on it.. had Sabina been a realist from the beginning.. much like IMV.. I wld have no issues.. but throughout the show and the last 2 months.. tht woman's projected aura was idealism.. she did not REFUSE HAPPINESS for DEVKI ALONE.. when Vicky asked her what she wanted.. coz what's her fate cld be Ds too.. she said she is not selfish enough to ride on so many ppl's happiness.. the whole family wld break apart with her entry.. and that's what happened.. if she were happy with her choice in the end.. she would not maintain the sharm-saar face in the last epi.. where she looked as dead as IMV... where she couldn't meet Ds eyes.. where she looked like she cldn't meet her own eyes.. I cldnt comprehend how Sabina could live with herself for a day after doing something that completely negated what her convictions were.. I am an individualist.. my statement to myself matters much more and above anything else.. and Sabina owed it to HERSELF.. for living with her dignity.. which at the end she bargained for.. sigh

As for VV.. he was someone I couldnt even recognize as having anything remotely similar to what he once stood for.. he was a living example of what LOVE can maketh a man.. when it becomes obsession.. he lost ALL PROPORTIONS.. he to me was as HELPLESS as DALI.. I can still have empathy for Dali but not for VV.. coz he had loads of help around unlike Dali.. he chose to completely disregard it.. for that one woman.. I was MORE THAN HAPPY he got WHAT HE WANTED.. my qs remains.. NOW WHAT.. LIVE that miserable existence with the object you so desired that you destroyed everything you walked on .. to chase it.. but at the cost of selling your soul.. your conviction.. with a woman who in all probability had done the same.. so tht makes a couple where both had ONLY LOVE.. but NOT THEMSELVES.. Sabina wasn't in the end woman he loved.. and neither was he the same man.. THIS was a GREEK TRAGEDY.. to live each day where they would be reminded of what they wanted.. and what they paid for it.. but in the end.. live with their bitter selves..with a colossal burden if they even comprehend it..

As for Devki.. I concur I was ghastly annoyed by her.. in her blind crusade... she completely overlooked all practicality around.. and even the greater harm it did.. but Devki had that OTT mahanta streak in her.. tht VV worked on.. in their marriage.. he balanced her.. showed her that idealism is an attractive option... but realism is far too difficult to follow.. THAT'S what I loved ABOUT VD.. what they both brought out in each other.. the min either of them stopped being that to each other.. they ran their individual sprint.. to doom.. Devki upheld her mahanta.. but atleast in her excessiveness.. she was the only among the 3 of them.. tht followed the conviction she stood for from the beginning.. as unreal as it was.. I am only saddened by the fact that neither VV had an inch of IMV or Charu.. altho he was invested upon for so long.. nor did Devki inherit CPs individuality..

IMV-CP/Parimita till the very end were the only 2 ppl I carry with me.. as impeccable characters with convictions of steel..they may not have concurred with each other's path in life after a point.. but they stuck to their guns unabashedly.. their statement to themselves.. to life.. and from life of prime importance.. now those are INSPIRATIONS for you

Sonali, VV and Devki, and IMV and CP I wont even argue because I feel the same. But was it really mass destruction that happened with VS union? Now, I'm not a VS fan or a VD fan. I'm not a fan of anybody, though I love IMV. But I'm not blind to his faults either. So, I'm not defending Sabina coz I wanted VS or anything like that. If anything, it didn't even matter to me at the end if VD stayed together or VS reunited. The thing that mattered was IMV and his journey, all the other characters had fallen off my radar by the end--Devki, Vaibhav. Sabina was not an important character for me from the beginning, a strong one, but not an important one. Even Vaibhav stopped being an important character, and Devki's importance remained only with respect to what she did for IMV. They all lost their individual importance for me. Coming to VS reuniting on the ground of mass destruction, at the end, only IMV was destroyed. Practically speaking, the whole family had probably come together at the end. This VS thing that Devki fought for, and everybody fought for, it broke IMV and that was what was needed for the rest of the family to come together. Did I want that is a different question. I cared a damn about anybody else in the family by the end, except maybe Sid-Rajvi, but they were in the background like always. But in reality, the family united. Charu got love from her husband, he was a shell of his former self, but she was happy. Everybody was happy, except again, Sid who had an inkling of what was lost. I didn't see the last episode and I won't. I speak solely from what I understand of the story. And if Sabina was guilty in the end, and ashamed. She has to live with that; it's the consequences of her actions. Like pain of losing her first love is for Devki. Whether VS are doomed, I don't know. Whether Sabina will be as good a bahu as Devki, maybe not. But the family survived before Devki came, and Sabina is good at heart. She may not go out of the way to please people, but she wont go out of her way to displease them either.

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sowmya

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Posted: 13 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000
And it gets the respect they themselves show it. If VD dont respect marriage, others don't have a responsibility to respect their marriage either.

I differ here . 😊 Its not THEIR marraige ...its respecting MARRAIGE period . She returned the first time from mandap ...not coz she was afraid of IMV , or press . The two reasons u outlined for refusing Vaibhav ...her moms reputation ...was NOT what sent Sabina back from the mandap . When she came to the mandap , Had not she gotten OVER that fear ?😊 IMV's blackmail had ceased to frighten . Vaibhavs family was ready to fight for her even then ...Baa and Sid WERE with her and had that marraige stopped , Charu and ALL wud have known the facts . Vaibhav STILL loved her . Why did she return ? She returned coz she respected Marraige as an institution . As sonali said , She returned coz she did not find it worth it that so much wud be disrupted due to an unwelcome marraige ...a business , a family structure .

Well nothing had changed towards the end too . Infact some addition had occured ...Devki had fallen in LOVE with Vaibhav which wud NOT have occured had Sabina spoken up at the mandap .

Why should she suddenly be 'real' and 'human' at the end ? She was NOT this at all , her character was a mahaan character only . Tiill the end it shud have remained just THAT .

The only real character was IMV ...he hated mahaanta . Devki , Sabina , were mahaan characters while Charu CP were characters with convictions of their own .

Kool I agree and said myself that she returned both times after marriage, first from the mandap and again from Vaibhav Villa the second time because she respected the institution of marriage. But where was the marriage. Marriage is between two people only, and both the people in that marriage did not consider it one. They did not respect it or acknowledge it. Devki had fallen in love, but did not fight for it. In fact, she had everything in her favor. She was already married, her family loved her, her FIL was actually fighting her to keep her in the family. But she didn't respect her marriage enough to fight for it. Sabina had left, Devki sent Vaibhav behind her. It was true that VS loved each other, it was an even bigger truth that Devki and not Sabina had married Vaibhav. She even knew part of the reason Sabina left-because she didn't want to break Devki's marriage. Did Devki herself give her marriage the consideration and respect an outsider like Sabina showed? She didn't. Vaibhav was doing fine until Sabina came back into the picture, he would have been fine once she was out of it again. And now, Devki had fallen in love with Vaibhav. So there was something more to the marriage than just business. Devki should have fought for it; in fact, she wouldn't even have to fight. She should have let time fade Sabina from Vaibahv's mind and start where they left off at the birthday party. But she didn't. She sent Vaibhav with an escort and promises to bring back Sabina. She didn't respect her marriage, as an institution or a relationship. Vaibhav was too far gone to even realise what he was doing, so I wont even talk about him. But I expected more of Devki, IMV's self described disciple and an intelligent businesswoman.

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khamosshhh

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Sonali, I so take back my words abt being in conflict agin wid u.

I simply ditto wat U hv written nd I must say dat S was never d victim nd IMV d villian...it was S's past dat provided IMV wid d immunations 2 prevent him frm allowing a union of S nd V nd he very rightfully used it. As I had said in another post, only a fool wouldn't hv used wat was d main weakness of his opponent (as S was 1 for IMV vis-a-vis V) nd IMV is no fool.

Yes d IMV-S scene was in fact very impactful nd as dey say only fools tread in where angels fear to go nd dat's exactly wat S was doing, ( maybe she had underestimated IMV) nd IMV was quick 2 bring such notions 2 an end.

But tht's d beauty of d whole interaction...it wasn't a one sided one, but a well fougth duel, where IMV emerged wid d upper hand.

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sonali.19281

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: ssshhh
Sonali, I so take back my words abt being in conflict agin wid u.

I simply ditto wat U hv written nd I must say dat S was never d victim nd IMV d villian...it was S's past dat provided IMV wid d immunations 2 prevent him frm allowing a union of S nd V nd he very rightfully used it. As I had said in another post, only a fool wouldn't hv used wat was d main weakness of his opponent (as S was 1 for IMV vis-a-vis V) nd IMV is no fool.

Yes d IMV-S scene was in fact very impactful nd as dey say only fools tread in where angels fear to go nd dat's exactly wat S was doing, ( maybe she had underestimated IMV) nd IMV was quick 2 bring such notions 2 an end.

But tht's d beauty of d whole interaction...it wasn't a one sided one, but a well fougth duel, where IMV emerged wid d upper hand.

I was laughing when I read your PM.. LOL.. I was waiting for you to read it.. and was wondering how you would be in a conflict.. but then your love for IMV could have been loud and clear😆.. but just as I expected.. you saw the scene for what it was.. I loved what you write here about IMV that only a fool wouldnt use such a tool against his adversary.. and IMV is anything but that..

and secondly.. your only fools tread where angels fear to go😆😃.. and if I may elaborate.. where Devils reside..yup it was a well fought one.. but not smartly fought at the end.. but at least Sabina knew exactly what she had to risk.. so one couldn't blame anyone after this meeting.. she was in full awareness of the repercussions..

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Anmol Jain

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Posted: 13 years ago

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\thanks now twll me hows my new siggy dabba btw forum lock hone walla hain kuch socha aage kahaan dhamaal karenge

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sonali.19281

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: intruderfast
\thanks now twll me hows my new siggy dabba btw forum lock hone walla hain kuch socha aage kahaan dhamaal karenge

itni jaldi kaise lock ho sakta hain..😆 abhi to archive hua hain... ppl can still post for long after a forum is archived.. pata nahin.. koi naya show nahi dekh rahi.. for dhamaal.. par tu bol. .I am opening a blog.. JLT.. we can move there.. ya phir.. CC bana sakte hain😆

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