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Posted: 14 years ago
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NO D did not make a place in his life coz of her similarities with S. thts trivializing it. he was first impressed with her business acumen.. her multi-tasking skills.. he grew fond of her coz of how much she bent to take care of his family.. so much so that he had faith in her intentions when the SR fiasco happened. its the same trait that he still admires.. (altho for her seva to Sabina)..their sense of understanding and trust was tested during the jail track.. u rem the life is serious business bit.. but do u rem what D told him b4 tht.. we have lived together for a while V-ji and if you think I am a honest person.. have faith in me.. he went out of his way to try to prove her innocent..

Its here that i disagree . 😊

I never saw him being 'impressed' with her on ANY level . I saw him being mighty impressed with Sabina , yes , but NEVER with D . There is not a single scene to date where he has dwelt on D's goodness like he keeps thinking over and over again of Sabina , her basti interactions , her simple nature [ enjoying sweets like any roadsider}.

His entire behaviour with D was polite , well mannered , gentlemanly and out of a sense of duty that Charu has imbibed in him .

The helping hand he gave her was just that .It NEVER was coz he impressed him . He helped her coz he had that rare objectivity that is a hall mark of his character , again , inherited from Charu . IMV is NOT objective on purpose . He chooses to be subjective and enjoys it as he feels he has earned that position in life . His objectivity in assesing human beings is something entirely for his own purposes .

To this day we see him dutiful to D and thats the stark truth .

The ONLY time I saw him look at her with appreciation was on the birthday . Sabina shud NOT have come back then , V and D were just beginning .

The friendship was very clinical . Clean , frank , practical , like two colleagues who jell excellently on a project .

He has the HOTS for another woman and he has to date NOT seen D with those eyes even once , hell , he has not even TRIED .

Devki has been IMPRESSED with him , yes . She has noticed how he accepted Dalichand as Sasur publicly , How he admitted him in rehab and gave him a chance , How he convinced her to have the business capital . D was impressed with V , it NEVER was the other way around. .

The help given in the business to CP enterprises was , a logical way to keep EVERYONE happy as Vaibhav himself told IMV later . It was to ensure she wud not conflict with his father , it was to ensure he did his duty by her too , it was to ensure that ALL wud be happy . It was not being enamoured of her business skills . That was a miniscule part of it .

Frankly , Devki has SUCKED at business . She gave away Swing air to Sid when it was offered to her , invested crores in a film that was not taking off , opted to go to meet Yogini [ CP} in Charu's ashram when V was fixing appointments with lawyers and wanted her for Vaibhav Floats Meetings , She does not even KNOW what she wants in Life ...she is trying , very childishly to be for Vaibhav Floats AND CP both and has shelved CP enterprises for the time being only to pick it up for an emotion ...Love For Pati .

She HAS to date not proved excellent business acumen like Sasur ...by recognising a good deal when she saw one and picking it up for the sheer love of business .

Vaibhav has proven that he has inherited his father's intelligence in business . Devki is YET to prove it . IMV noticed spark in her , was impressed and thats it .The story remains THERE , we have not seen deveopment in that spark .

Whatever Devki did on the homefront , Vaibhav smiled and accepted . IMPRESSED is too strong aword I feel for that acceptance .

IMPRESSION has been made by Sabina alone . He keeps repeating , SHE changed me . Maybe she did . The inherent humanity that he inherited from Charu , maybe Sabina the catalyst tapped it .

These r my two cents on their relationship . I am not challenging your opinion , am merely telling u what I saw .😊 Much as I want this pair together and S out , I cannot say what I failed to see .

Your comment on the silence of elders equalizing the silence that Devki held by not revealing truth of her compro marraige to protect their feelings was interesting . But

They r ELDERS and shud know that silence on serious matters FESTERS things . She is a mere child , an innocent one who believes in UTOPIA . Had she told someone of her bedroom life , Who knows , by now V wud be sharing the bed with her , first out of duty , then , out of attraction .😉 { that happens with most men in arranged marraiges} . Had the Elders told her the truth about Sabina , this DISASTER wud have been AVOIDED .

Her silence was innocent and inexperienced and hence excusable in my eyes [ What did she think exactly HOW long was she gonna stay like that with V , had the poor dear given it a thought by exercising that Utopian brain } but the silence of the ELDERS ...was inexcusable as they were seasoned and could have stopped all this .

When Youth makes blunders , The Aged have to intervene and take over is my firm belief .

Due to that silence , D will feel shocked , humiliated , foolish and crushed when the truth is revealed . I want to see that moment and I hope they do justice to it instead of showing her like Subhadra .















Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Sabina on her part is running away from herself.. coz she is not sure how long she can hold onto herself without giving away her feelings..

Yes . Thats the reason I said , She is running away as she KNOWS she will not be able to hold him at bay for long . Meaning ...she will slip in his proximity .

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Posted: 14 years ago
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ooohhh I am going to love this.. I already am.. so here I go.. I once told Munira this.. I cholse my words well.. or try to.. and here you have grabbed on to one word IMPRESSION.. and taken it home.. so let me tell you to read the very bit you have quoted..

he was impressed by her multi-tasking skills.. case in point.. one of their first meetings in office after marriage when she tells him abt this one investors history.. and he is like how do you do this.. balance out business and domesticity.. to which she replied.. I am not the only one.. every woman does tht these days..

case in point 2.. phone convo. where he i again impressed by her organization and time management skills.. once in Mumbai project..

case in point 3. when she talks to Charu and makes up some cock bull story to pacify the sleeping situation.. he is again impressed mom bought tht story at least remotely..

other cases in point.. is every time he called her a genius.. for making things so easy for him.. for sorting out his life.. how many times has D said that to him.. you make my life easy..

I never hinted that his IMPRESSION of her.. made him do things.. he did do them out of duty.. its inherent in him.. but he is not charitable to do it for anyone. .she is family and hence he does it for her.. she means SOMETHING if not EVERYTHING.. in his own words.. we may not be ARCHETYPAL Spouses.. but we are not strangers..

about him reminiscing D.. she has made a very cryptic and silent place in his life.. we tend to take those kinda people for granted.. I always have taken my frnds for granted.. did I fondly rem each thing they have done for me unconditionally when we were together.. nahhh.. do I do it now.. when they r just a distant memory.. every single day.. let D walk out on him.. see what he does.. do you think he wld fondly reminisce S if she were with him.. naahhh human nature dude.. you pine for something you can never have.. and fondly rem those that are not by your side.. when m with my parents.. I am constantly fighting.. but now 585736495 miles away.. I am sugary sweet with them😆

yup D is an emotional fool to be good enough in business.. I agree.. and yup things are expected from elders.. no wonder I expect Charu to b e more proactive and taking things in her hand.. more than just exercising her chiding rights to V.. 😉 she must sit D down.. tell her concerns as a wife.. a mother.. and her expectations from D as a DIL.. what IMV cld.. why cant she.. put D on the backfoot for her own good.. tell her you are advocating an outsider's cause much against my comfort.. see what D does.. she wont know whr to hide.. she wld not let her mummijy down..
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Posted: 14 years ago
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to me Kools if I may point it out.. the biggest problem with VD and esp V has been the right to know status of every family member when it came to their life.. every frking member tries to play a part in their equation without knowing what it exactly is.. sometimes doing more harm.. and now when they should be more proactive.. they sit and venerate an outsider at the expense of their domestic unrest.. had everyone stood against Sabina's moving in just on the grounds that IMV wont like it.. Master-Charu-Baa. etc. VD wont have the guts to be this insolent..

if they can lay down rules about no watching movies in theatres just coz IMV doesnt approve.. you wld think they cld do it here.. the prob is.. some of them are siding with it.. well aware of the repercussions..

If I were IMV.. I would come back.. and be uber harsh on D.. for this insolence.. in the process D wld feel hurt.. and VV wld stand up against his dad.. FOR Ds sake.. for her agenda.. in the process deviating from the real context.. they are suckers for drama right.. so make D the bichari victim.. to get VD together.. as long as S is martyr monroe.. V will have the hots for her.. who care for ghar ke sabzi man😆 til now IMVs adversity with D had made V stand up for her.. and got them together.. do tht again IMV.. why antagonize S.. she is no one to the family anyways..😉
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Posted: 14 years ago
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😆😆 Maybe he saw her multi tasking and gave her an appreciative glance or two . But I did NOT see him dwelling on it .

I saw him dwelling on Sabina even when Sabina and he HAD hopes . Both of them were unmarried then and he wud be constantly thinking of how she interacted with basti children , smiled , clapped , her sense of humor etc etc even when he was in office .

How many days he has been with Devki ? Some Months now ...much more than he had EVER been with Sabina , that too in proximity . Where does he DWELL on her like he dwells on Sabina ?

Its not just distance makes the object more attractive thing here ...ille ille rang in his mind THEN and ille ille rings now . Ille Ille is a personification of the dwelling of his mind .

There is NO music on HIS part for Devki . She simply does not strike a chord , a note . But there IS a LA LA in Devki's brain as HE does strike a note with HER .😊

When he DWELLS on her after she has gone , I will agree with u . Currently i see NOTHING .😊

I wud honestly prefer him getting worked up when a male pays attention to Devki . I don't want to see her leave and return , its too predictable . Let her stay right there and win it . Let him HATE the fact that another man simply LOVEs Devkis company and I will whistle . I will love it if Sabina observes this as a woman and moves away with dignity .


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: sonali.19281

to me Kools if I may point it out.. the biggest problem with VD and esp V has been the right to know status of every family member when it came to their life.. every frking member tries to play a part in their equation without knowing what it exactly is.. sometimes doing more harm.. and now when they should be more proactive.. they sit and venerate an outsider at the expense of their domestic unrest.. had everyone stood against Sabina's moving in just on the grounds that IMV wont like it.. Master-Charu-Baa. etc. VD wont have the guts to be this insolent..


if they can lay down rules about no watching movies in theatres just coz IMV doesnt approve.. you wld think they cld do it here.. the prob is.. some of them are siding with it.. well aware of the repercussions..

If I were IMV.. I would come back.. and be uber harsh on D.. for this insolence.. in the process D wld feel hurt.. and VV wld stand up against his dad.. FOR Ds sake.. for her agenda.. in the process deviating from the real context.. they are suckers for drama right.. so make D the bichari victim.. to get VD together.. as long as S is martyr monroe.. V will have the hots for her.. who care for ghar ke sabzi man😆 til now IMVs adversity with D had made V stand up for her.. and got them together.. do tht again IMV.. why antagonize S.. she is no one to the family anyways..😉


Sonali they WANT IMV 's failure to rub it in his face . Unconsciously they r all itching to tell him I told u so ...except Charu who really loves IMV . { even more than CP ever did .}

Baa , Master , PK and Manhar will leave NO opportunity to say I told u so to Ishvar the bad rebel .

This friendship with Sabina is exactly what Baa would do .

See how Manhar HELPED . Ahem ahem . Normally he HATES participating in ANY of Ishvar's matters , but he helps in THIS one . Does not he know his elder brother . His horror for publicity . Will he like that controversial actress in the house .

they r all ITCHING to see V rebel against IMV .

And its happening . Bali Ki Bakri is Devki .
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I agree with what you say.. there is ZILCH Romanticism for D in Vs mind.. esp when he has forced that whole idea in his personification of the unrequited painful one towards S.. he is much a masochist 😆.. but I am extremely in peace with him NOT being IN LOVE with D.. and I dont feel the intense need for it to develop into one.. he has been rather credible with her in spite of that.. today if he found out how D felt.. he wld be a diff man.. he wld never let her go thro the pain.. he has gone thro.. he wld settle down with her.. for her.. that for me is good enough. .they have a beautiful friendship going.. I remember Kal ho na ho.. Priety and Saif's equation.. both at peace with the fact.. that one was always in love.. while the other found a partner in a friend.. that is cute.. and real.. 😊

Love is hyped.. at the end of the day.. I am a peaceful boring person who would wanna sit in the evenings and sip my coffee sharing my convictions with my partner.. coz 20 yrs down the line.. when my hormones are done with permanently.. the companionship will still remain untouched by the winds of time.. in fact wld have gotten stronger.. VD work coz they are extremely reminiscent of Basu Chatterjee/ Hrishikesh Mukherjee movie equations.. not the passion laden or melancholy driven mope fest.. that leaves me with a smile at the end of the day😊.. they are better people with each other..

just see what a mess V comes across associated with S.. he may not have hots for d gharelu daal.. but she makes him look like a hero.. 😉
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Posted: 14 years ago
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just see what a mess V comes across associated with S.. he may not have hots for d gharelu daal.. but she makes him look like a hero.. 😉

Indeed it is . It is one of my firm beliefs in life that Love is greatly over hyped .

S has always put V AGAINST his father

D has always brought Father son together

S never set out to do it purposefully . But I am telling the effect ...the end result of V and S was rift between Father and Son .

The end result between V and D was connection between Father and son .

Even now , V is snorting like a fire breathing dragon already . I will go AGAINST Dad . S has just been in his life for 2 days mind u recently .

S put IMV's back up with her spirit . She challenged him .

D never deterred from her convictions and thoughts but took utmost care to respect him . She NEVER sasses him . He is V's father in her mind .

S creates turmoil in V 's life .Passion is rarely soothing .

D calms it .








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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

just see what a mess V comes across associated with S.. he may not have hots for d gharelu daal.. but she makes him look like a hero.. 😉

Love is hyped.

Indeed it is . It is one of my firm beliefs in life that Love is greatly over hyped .

S has always put V AGAINST his father

D has always brought Father son together

S never set out to do it purposefully . But I am telling the effect ...the end result of V and S was rift between Father and Son .

The end result between V and D was connection between Father and son .

Even now , V is snorting like a fire breathing dragon already . I will go AGAINST Dad . S has just been in his life for 2 days mind u recently .

S put IMV's back up with her spirit . She challenged him .

D never deterred from her convictions and thoughts but took utmost care to respect him . She NEVER sasses him . He is V's father in her mind .

S creates turmoil in V 's life .Passion is rarely soothing .

D calms it .








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Posted: 14 years ago
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my friend kools and sonali listen to this song clam down ur nerves😛u need it

till then i will try to read ur gripping lectures😆😆

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g_6TmOyXAM[/YOUTUBE]

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