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sonali.19281

@sonali.19281

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Posted: 14 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000
why sonali , u sound BUGGED ! Am intrigued .🤔

Thats it ! off to read the WU and find out WHAT has miffed Sonali .

I forgive everything.. .but letting your personal life rub on your professional commitments.. VVs penchant for his work.. is what made him work for me.. besides his honor and fair accountability.. you take that away.. and he is just another loser in love.. which the WU suggests.. head desk

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Ozymandias

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Posted: 14 years ago

#12

Yup 👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼 This is not even Vaibhav. Just some typical love-struck hero who can't see beyond his lady love 😵 They've killed V... sigh.

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sonali.19281

@sonali.19281

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Posted: 14 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: trouble_maker
Yup 👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼 This is not even Vaibhav. Just some typical love-struck hero who can't see beyond his lady love 😵 They've killed V... sigh.

might as well... kill him officially now.. so that we can have riddance of this pathetic track.. highly lame. .and nagging

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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 14 years ago

#14

Ab samjha why I was purposefully doing this Hoo Haa . 😔 A last minute valiant effort so they wud not kill our fav characters . They Killed Vaibhav na ? I told u guys , he is straight out of Tagore's Chokher Bali Novel now .

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sonali.19281

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Posted: 14 years ago

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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000
Ab samjha why I was purposefully doing this Hoo Haa . 😔 A last minute valiant effort so they wud not kill our fav characters . They Killed Vaibhav na ? I told u guys , he is straight out of Tagore's Chokher Bali Novel now .

havent read that novel.. you see m not into such lamery in the name of love.. in any form of fiction.. although mom has good things to say abt it.. u a bong too? IDK where they are going with Vaibhav.. he is just getting sucked into this whole quagmire of past feelings etc.. I still don't think he has the guts or inclination to be unfair to Devki and walk out.. but now I want D to walk out.. with her pride.. let him mope for yesterdays.. and Sabina is annoying as well.. I have reasons and will go home in an hr to reply in detail.. i complete believe she has messed this whole thing up beyond recognition..what she cld have handled rather easily

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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 14 years ago

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Originally posted by: sonali.19281

havent read that novel.. you see m not into such lamery in the name of love.. in any form of fiction.. although mom has good things to say abt it.. u a bong too? IDK where they are going with Vaibhav.. he is just getting sucked into this whole quagmire of past feelings etc.. I still don't think he has the guts or inclination to be unfair to Devki and walk out.. but now I want D to walk out.. with her pride.. let him mope for yesterdays.. and Sabina is annoying as well.. I have reasons and will go home in an hr to reply in detail.. i complete believe she has messed this whole thing up beyond recognition..what she cld have handled rather easily

There u go . Thats what I want . D to walk out with pride . He can have his ille ille . Am interested in knowing your reasons for finding S annoying . Will wait to read ur answer

No Im not Bong but much into reading Bengali literature , and have practically grown up with bongs as my sis married one . Love Bong Food btw . One of the best cuisines in the world . Macher jhol is my fav . Ur a Bong I gather ? From the 'too' ?

In Chokher Bali , Tagore handles the issue of losing pride in love and has questioned if it is worth it . One married lead in it , is constantly put down by a woman , after she leads him on initially . Hisself realisation comes when he realises he has lost all pride and self worth in his passion for that woman .

I understand what u find lame . So Do I . Sonali did u see Sabina's snub ...aap bhi hosh mein aaiye ? Omg it was such a slap on V's face .

IMV is RIGHT this time . Charu has not been effective . Baa is wrong , Sid is wrong , they ALL r wrong in keeping quiet so D's heart is not broken .They will be CRUSHING her heart later due to this silence .

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sonia77

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Posted: 14 years ago

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Sabina and vaibhavs eyes speak for themselves...its like they are itching to jump on each other but cant...😆...devaki is a fool...but ya the tracks going to be intresting!...devaki is a nice girl..but vaibav ain't getting over his obsession till the show ends!..that too if at all...they'll have to cash in on this triangle...theres not much else to show in the soap..is there...😉...the guy playing IMV is lousy...and no ones that intrested in vaibhavs brother or his wifes story...😉..so that leaves us with these three...and now the time change...i wont be surprised if the show shuts soon...on an average its only appealed to the rich and elite more or less atleast i think...i'm not sure such a show will appeal to the masses...who are really the trp givers...😊...so might as well enjoy the triangle for a little while.😊

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sonali.19281

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Posted: 14 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

There u go . Thats what I want . D to walk out with pride . He can have his ille ille . Am interested in knowing your reasons for finding S annoying . Will wait to read ur answer.. yup.. gimme a bit.. will try to frame a biggie.. yer post deserves it😆

No Im not Bong but much into reading Bengali literature , and have practically grown up with bongs as my sis married one . Love Bong Food btw . One of the best cuisines in the world . Macher jhol is my fav . Ur a Bong I gather ? From the 'too' ?.. yup me is a bong by birth.. but not by domicile.. and hence can't read the script too well.. i mean can barely read it.. never read any bong fiction.. coz of tht.. and also coz have been wayyy to pre-occupied wid eng lit. but yup mom fills me in with her critique and analysis on diff lit work.. esp tagore..

In Chokher Bali , Tagore handles the issue of losing pride in love and has questioned if it is worth it . One married lead in it , is constantly put down by a woman , after she leads him on initially . Hisself realisation comes when he realises he has lost all pride and self worth in his passion for that woman . choker bali was made into a movie i believe... and was atrocious😆.. well all i know was of the woman who was rejected by the man she loved.. and played with the zamindaar to satiate her ego..

I understand what u find lame . So Do I . Sonali did u see Sabina's snub ...aap bhi hosh mein aaiye ? Omg it was such a slap on V's face . well I have diff levels of relating to her sermon there.. LOL.. like i said hold your horses😉

IMV is RIGHT this time . Charu has not been effective . Baa is wrong , Sid is wrong , they ALL r wrong in keeping quiet so D's heart is not broken .They will be CRUSHING her heart later due to this silence .
the same ppl D has kept a truth from.. for their welfare.. abt d reality of her marriage are keeping a truth from her.. so they equalize.. but what I fear out of this track (well apart from them constantly giving VV a raw deal.. and killing him) is they will mess things up so much and then justify IMV doing something drastic like trying to get rid of Sabina.. thereby paving his path to d dark roads.. if IMV has to go down tht road.. better be convincing.. and not for some chindi high moralistic actress.. I am more protective abt IMVs psyche than VVs tbh

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sonali.19281

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Posted: 14 years ago

#19

Ok.. how do I start.. and moreover how do I keep it concise😆

after reading your whole post.. I have to say.. step back a bit.. and look at it holistically.. not from any one's POV.. not even yours if its possible😆lemme summarize the big picture here.. if I can..

your insinuation of the basic premise of VD doesn't bode with me.. V on some levels dwelled on self pity.. when S rejected him.. and his whole pain of one-sided love.. he was extremely close minded abt D when he told her the conditions of getting married to her.. and she rightly rejected them.. only to compromise with it.. VD started out as stark strangers adjusting to each other and life.. if you think about it.. D knew or had interacted with EACH and EVERY member of the virani clan on some levels.. except the man she married.. and now look where they are.. from not having shared a word.. to sharing each other's psyches and responsibilities.. what transpired was beautiful.. D was instrumental in bringing out a facet of VV.. that no one knew or understood.. well if S infused the humanity in him.. as such.. he practiced and tested his beliefs coz of Devki.. whether it was his dealing of Dalichand.. or with Bha.. or guiding her thro the business aspirations in the beg.. he was never an INFLUENCE on anyone.. but in some odd way he became a mentor for D. in turn what he got from D was unstinted support..

NO D did not make a place in his life coz of her similarities with S. thts trivializing it. he was first impressed with her business acumen.. her multi-tasking skills.. he grew fond of her coz of how much she bent to take care of his family.. so much so that he had faith in her intentions when the SR fiasco happened. its the same trait that he still admires.. (altho for her seva to Sabina)..their sense of understanding and trust was tested during the jail track.. u rem the life is serious business bit.. but do u rem what D told him b4 tht.. we have lived together for a while V-ji and if you think I am a honest person.. have faith in me.. he went out of his way to try to prove her innocent..

if you think about it.. for the first few months V did not think abt Sabina and mope in the past so much.. he was busy with work.. shuttling btw IMV-D.. trying to make her comfy in the surroudings.. giving her power to do her will.. heeding by her sensibilities when it came to domesticity.. giving her the right to be a bridge btw him and his parents (AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT RIGHT given to anyone).. in turn being a pillar of support and assuming every responsibility of a spouse.. only being romantically involved doesn't feature as a criteria.. and no he did not do it out of compulsion.. he did it with pleasure.. D had made a strong impact and place in his life.. as a companion.. a mentee.. a friend..

and all such in a matter of 2-3 months.. you compare SR to VD .. a span of 9 yrs and a child to 3 months of going from strangers to friends.. in fact.. S till recently was extremely closed to R.. they werent and are still not friends.. so had VD been allowed their course.. things wld be diff.. or may be they still will be..

Now coming to what threw things off.. the perennial influence of parents and other family members did.. the panic button that went off in Charu as she saw them sleeping separate did.. although well intended.. the extreme rush of seeing them romantically involved did.. the constant telling him MOVE ON.. Dont dwell in the past (when he really wasn't tbh.. and was moving on.. slowly).. I want to think this is when the CVs tht of getting Sabina back.. the constant throwing D on Vs face.. the constant urge of blooming romance made V more protective of his sentiments for S.. had it taken a natural course.. he wldnt have.. his irritation at the suggested romanticism in the picnic.. made him hold onto his pain of unrequited everlasting love more.. sadly thts when he started getting distant from everyone.. including D.. in his thoughts.. of his past.. his one-sided love for the woman.. situations reminding him of her constantly.. naturally him constantly being reminded of his time with S thro D..

in summary what D had done in 2 months.. was partially undone by the family members.. they hung on to each other as friends.. D started loving him.. but it pushed V towards that dangerous path more and more.. and in that vulnerable state he saw Sabina's news and wanted to fund her movie.. just to whet his affections.. to feel better about this whole situation.. to glorify his one-sided love.. but that was never mingled with D.. she has /had a diff place in his life.. he initially did not want D to be involved.. but again gave her access to his desires and dreams.. coz of the faith he had in her.. as a friend and as a companion

Edited by sonali.19281 - 14 years ago

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sonali.19281

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Posted: 14 years ago

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Now coming to drama.. part 2.. a complete and utter mess.. of affairs..

when the family got to know of VDs involvement in S film.. the second panic button arose.. IMV IMV IMV.. you appreciate the man sooo freaking much when you see things in retrospection.. do you realize now why he dealt with V in a mature manner.. telling him out of experience past catches on to you b4 you know it son.. I am living it all my life.. hear my voice.. do you see now why exactly why he did not want Charu to talk to V.. coz he cld see thro Vs vulnerability after the picnic scenario.. he cld see how much forced this whole thing was for V. he wanted to normalize things in front of V trying to make sure he did not lose his son.. he wld have dealt with the whole mess in his own way.. but then again

the constant MOVE ON.. MOVE ON Bhashan went on.. Charu asked him to promise that he wont betray D.. and he still wont I feel.. In fact he did have that extra feeling developing for that innocent girl as you pointed out on his b'day.. and then what happens.. he is made to stand in front of his past..

good enough.. he starts on his normal vein.. small talking.. been a long while.. to hear the first thing from that woman.. move on Mr. don't sponsor my film.. you wife loves you.. I mean W*F.. every frking person who comes across says the same thing.. FORCING him to get defensive about his feelings.. he gets irksome.. telling her you have no right to comment.. you don't know the reality of my equation with my wife to judge me.. he is as it is protective of his ONE-SIDED UNREQUITED feelings.. and to be thrusted with.. S statement on I am missing my husband.. woman don't rub it in.. you are adding insult to injury here. .act normal.. just coz you rejected his proposal doesn't mean you guys weren't even friends.. so be friendly.. dont make him jealous.. its natural.. that man has feelings too.. why insult it.. just to show him.. you need to move on.. let him figure that out..

and then of course she takes his bullet.. good enough.. he goes delirious.. but even in tht.. he is in it alone.. with his bare ONE-SIDED feelings.. looking out for support.. from the only woman who can call HIS.. friend.. and she gives it to him.. his wife.. as unaware as she is..she is his only medicine

while his erstwhile ex continues being the TNT for his brain.. if the why did she take my bullet wasn't enough.. that extremely stupid woman tries to flee in that state.. SERIOUSLY.. you could have naturally recuperated in the hospital.. passively worked on erasing his doubts by saying.. hey what if I did not love you.. or I married the man I love.. but its not like we had nothing going.. you are a friend.. you were one.. and I would always do that for a friend.. wldnt you do it for Devki.. in spite of NOT LOVING HER😉😆 that's all it wld have taken to straighten up d mess..

but it was not to be.. she wakes up and shoves one more.. get out of yer fantasy.. move on.. at his moment of weakness.. irritating him.. making him more determined to follow his self-destruction..

Sabina on her part is running away from herself.. coz she is not sure how long she can hold onto herself without giving away her feelings.. esp coz VV is a THINKING MAN.. he will think.. and try to make sense.. if D cant digest the eccentricity and erratic stories of S.. why will V.. esp when it festers his fantasy.. that may be she loved him too.. unintentionally the woman is driving him up the wall more and more.. leading him on.. by her incessant you need to move on.. what is with your intense need to be moralistic.. and why do you care so much what he does.. what right have you assumed in his life to tell him every passing min what he needs to do.. you are not his wife.. not his mother.. not even someone who loved him.. or are you..

just the thought process that VV may be into.. and thats why I say.. she has made a royal mess.. and what she gets from him is this royal defiance.. I am not BOUND to your will that I give you any promise.. how i decide to live my life.. is my will.. whether I move on or not.. my will again.. I shall not give any promises to YOU.. i give them to my mom..

Contrary to what few of you have seen.. I have not seen him lusting for Sabina.. in his contrived delusion.. at best he is fascinated by the idea that maybe she loved him too.. that's what all her actions suggest.. and he is driven against everything now.. being really stupid.. cruising down his nemesis.. for once not in control of what he wants to do.. if the woman did tell him.. yes I did love you.. wld it make him brk his marriage and elope with her.. NO.. I think not.. if that were it.. he wldnt be hiding all this from D.. making sure she doesnt get a hint of any such.. and if she said.. No VV I did not love you romantically but as a friend.. he wld mope away.. but D has enough influence on him.. to get him back on track.. she had.. till the family members went nuts..

she still can.. and for tht reason I think its best he doesnt find out abt her feelings for him right away.. coz right now he cld use a friend more than a lover.. he may close himself up further if he found out abt D and make VD more distant.. he is a mess right now.. and if he can let D handle his work while he is being a mess.. he can let her handle him too.. does she deserve it.. may be not..

Verdict.. VV is being a EPIC MESS.. he is flawed.. but isnt tht the reality of this show.. everyone is flawed so why be extra harsh on V.. just coz he has always been clean and clear.. well its his turn I guess.. whether and how he gets himself out of it.. wld be the Qs.. does he perish in this.. or does he come out of it.. its like REHAB.. you don't tell an addict to stop smoking.. all the time.. coz tht wld only remind him of his addiction.. you give him ways to overcome it.. which D was doing.. and she still may.. thats why I think she is his only hope.. my biggest grouse on V.. I wish he had more pride than he does.. to overcome his weak feelings.. but then everyone around him is a mess.. D is being a mess.. S is being pathetically stupid.. and biggest problem Makers are being the BIGGEST MESS

Edited by sonali.19281 - 14 years ago

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