A few strong words:FEEDBACK:Part 2

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Posted: 16 years ago
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I had been highly disappointed with my kudi's first marriage and her determined efforts at self inflicted pain. It was a sure put off for me and many others I'm sure. I stopped watching the show and relied on Joey's update. My reason for hanging around then was to stay close to my friends on the forum. To relieve ourselves of boredom and inane arguments, we started entertaining ourselves with puzzles etc. That kept us busy till the track changed. The only loyalist to the show was Joey who filled us in with the story through her regular updates. And I shall always be appreciative of that.
The wolf was bumped off and we rejoiced on the forum. Champagne flowed and glasses clinked. The sound of merry laughter was everywhere. We eagerly waited to see how my kudi would extract her pound of flesh from her bitterest foe, her new husband. There were several kodak moments which made all my beautiful dreamers swoon. Expectations ran high. Many thought romance would bloom although most thought there should not be too much hurry in that. We gave our views on how the track should proceed.
But this euphoria soon dissipated. We were subjected to a story that wasn't moving forward at all. The same arguments, the same suspicions, the same accusations and the same outcomes. Sigh !
The characters of the main protagonists started getting warped and twisted out of shape.
Cracks in the Characters:
Rajvir's character did not seem to have any substance. He was getting weaker and weaker. He was shown to have no confidence in his abilities, blaming his wife for all his misfortunes at his workplace. He had a two point aim. The RB for his father and the destruction of the KKs. He seemed to have no conscience when he sent Sohan tauji to the gallows or had mamaji falsely implcated and arrested. How shallow could they have depicted a hero? And he still doesn't show any signs of improvement. The latest on his list of deeds is drinking when down, yelling and manhandling his wife, and, throwing her out of the house.
Mahatma Gandhi, J Nehru, Gokhale, V Patel were all lawyers. They loved their country and could see through the goras. So why was the dingbat hero shown to be such a sycophant? The first two were educated in England too. And so many more who threw away their black coats to serve the country. Did these figures never impress the hero? All the above were pacifists and were never that abhorrent of the revolutionaries as our brainless hero is.
Kranti was the forum's kudi and definitely mine. She had spirit, she had courage, and she always had her wits about her. Her love for her country was very appealing. Her zest for the cause, her secret meetings with the KKs and her subsequent job at the office (kacheri) showed the substance she was made of. She did not care for riches or the goras. Her sad circumstance of being orphaned young, of being ill-treated by mamiji and cousin, always caused the viewer to sympathise with her. Then came her marriage to the wolf. We were subjected to 3 weeks of TTT (taunting, trauma and torture). That was the time when the creatives showed signs of mismanagement of the story. She started behaving like a ninny which was not liked by us at all. But, she righted herself when the wolf died and we did see glimpses of the old Kranti. But again, she started getting stale. She appeared shrewish and belligerent all the time. This got on the nerves of many here. The last straw was the scene when she wept and returned to the household like spineless idiot.
Rani Laxmibai was born in an era much earlier to Kudi. So were those young girls involved in the Chittagong conspiracy. What valour they showed and what courage. But our heroine started weeping when she was asked to leave the house!!!!!! Is she really a KK? I doubt it. She is good at frying puris, making halwa and dropping notes in the WPB. And her friends, the KKs are shown to be nothing more than bunglers. Their source of inspiration is Kranti. Good grief !!
Wake up !!! This is a call is to the Cretivs / Channel / Writers
You have to do some immediate damage control. Please do not show the heroine as a stupid illiterate woman. She has greater characteristics and greater heights to reach. Please do not show the hero as a devious, insensitive, unprincipled person who is unconcerned by the country's struggle for self rule. He needs to be shown as a man of honour who can influence his father that the RB is not that important if you have to compromise on your honesty. Let him be shown as a man of good strength of character rather than some yes man. It makes him so cheap. Please divert the story in such a way now where both the characters can improve upon themselves.
You have an intelligent niche audience who doesn't want some milk and water romance or silly conversations. They want a solid relationship to grow between the protagonists, an unbreakable bond and a compatability of mind and spirit. Are you mature enough to deliver these? I'm sure you can do it if you put your mind to it.
It has taken me a long time to put down some of the points buzzing in my head in short. I am very unhappy at the way the story is progressing. Please friends, add your names if you feel the same way I do.
Joey, I appreciate your taking up this issue with the channel and the actors.
**Viewbie's Note:This is Feedback 2 Post ..please put up all your feedbacks and suggestions here😊...To check the Feedback 1 post click on this LINK**
@Skepti:Edited your post to put the feedback 1 link and give the note to all..😳..Making it a sticky..😃
Edited by jyoti06 - 16 years ago

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Skepti I'm in. I agree with you. They really need to control the damage which is takin the show to an end. Skepti nice example of people who were present at the era or were inspiration like RLB.
I wonder that how come they are few numbers of KK shown in MRD. I know it is a small group of may be just an area. It is 1942 and at that time number of KK grew. This is the set-up of Lahore and there were many KKS group were present... Why don't they show them. They don't even discuss about Mahatma Gandhi and others who were working on Quit India Movement.
I agree thay made her weaker and Raj dumb who can't see these heroes and can't follow the truth instead of selling off his honesty to some officer.
Those days it was not about men/ women.It was about kicking Britishers out hopefully they show that instead of showing this 'sati-savitri-bechari- nari' image. Jyo please send Skepti post to them and tell to add interesting twist with some action. MRD sound like other serial these days with no action.
Skepti your post says it all.
Edited by Seebz - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Totally agree wtih skep n seebz. Even I dont want to see dumb Raj n blind in revenge kranti.

Creatives dont ruin the beauty n dignity of any character esp the leads. A hero must have strong sense of self-respect. Show them as strong person but not heartless. show some sensible chat between them. show some emotional moments between them

Number of KKs shud be increased
Edited by coolpurvi - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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I m totally with Skep, unless the creatives do not care that they are going to lose their loyal audience, they would not carry on with this illogical and highly insipid plotline.
If the production house cares, they would rectify their glaring errors at a war footing.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Skepti, you said (and wrote) it all.
I do agree with you . What they are showing now is no diffrent that 'K' serials
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Posted: 16 years ago
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well said skepti....i agree its high time now that the writers bring a change in the script. a positive leap in both characters is long in need. the story is going nowhere and we as viewers r really disappointed. we still hv high hopes on the show and i am hoping that the makers wont fail us.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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very well written skepti!! 👏
creatvies juss strted withe show ......wit the background of pre-independence period but without their homework i guess!!
after watching the show ............it clearly indicates the lack of research .....frm their part!! i luv to watch patriotic movies and hav seen many......i think they shud watch it too to get tht emotions in the charcter!!
except sohan tauji i hav never seen tht emotion in anyone on the show .....not even in kranti !! its juss dialogues n dialogues ....thts too stands no meaning when it bcums repetative!!
so i think ......raj-kranti romance is another angle but they shud take the story fwd in such a way tht both the issues .of freedom fighting and raj-kranti luv story ...gets nicely interrelated!!
the show has gud scope n potential .....but i guess creatives r dumb for not utilizing it properly!!
not only the frrdom fighters or fighting for the country but there were many more issues during tht time but they dun want to utilize it i think!!
they hav again made a show stagnant to a usual kitchen politics stuff............and forgetting the main flavor of the show!!1
Edited by Bugger - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Skepti U hv really made some very strong points here👏...quite meaningful and very straightforward👍🏼..
I think u just said it all..nothing much to add here..but will still add some of my tidbits😃
First of all can the creatives just bring in the old flavour of MRD back which is a Love Story under the backdrop of the Pre-Independence era😊...We never wished to see another Saas-Bahu torture with Jethani plotting against Devrani and everyone misunderstading the poor Choti bahu of the house and the husband becoming dumb every passing day and throwing his wife out of the house👎🏼...Then what is the difference between a Kyunki Saas Bhi Kabhi bahu thi and MRD ??😕...We hv already seen these type of situations in at least 500 daily soaps..So why should we watch MRD ??😊
I think the reason why we all started watching it was because of the unique concept of Freedom movement which was something very different from other soaps and showed mayb for the first or the second time on Small screen😳..Also we adored the scorching chemistry/Rivalry between the two main leads Rajbir and Kranti😳...
I think both Raj and Kranti were once very strong personalities..both were determined to achieve their goals and even though their POVs were different but still there was a certain amount of spark and dignity in their characters👏
But now why is it all looking very messed up at the moment??...
Kranti who is the daughter of someone who lost his life in Jallianwala Baug and who has been brought up by some fearless Krantikaris is suddenly behaving like one Abla-Nari whose only motive is to take Revenge from Rajbir even if she has to do some Nautanki for that👎🏼...More than the country,she seems to b in love with her ego and mission of destroying her husband..Why can't she see things beyond Rajbir now ??😕..Is this the same Kranti who once went on to stab Rajbir at night just because she lost her father's printing press ??..Today Rajbir just drags her out of the house with his full strength and all she does is sits on the floor and sheds tears like a weak typical housewife..Where has that fire and determination in her gone now ??👎🏼
Coming to Rajbir's character,I still remember in the 2nd or 3rd Episode when Sanjay takes him to that English Night club,He sees that board of "Dogs and Indians not allowed" and gets a bit disturbed there which actually showed that even though he is loyal to the Britishers but at the same time he will never stand up against a lie or injustice👏..Today suddenly what happened ??Why Raj goes on to fight that Satnaam Singh's fake case just to get one RB-Ship title for his father..Where did his principals go then ??..Fine he loves his father and cannot see his life in danger..but does that mean an England Returned Barrister like Rajbir will go and leak the feet of the Governor to get his work done ??👎🏼...Is this how the creatives want to portray a hero in the show ??😕...And now he even crossed the limit of being a gentleman by actually manhandling his wife👎🏼...How can they ruin such a strong character of Rajbir and turn him into one chamcha of the britishers😭..Please wake up creatives😭
Next is why so much of confusion in the storyline ??...In the beginning of the episode the hero saves heroine's life giving us the impression that mayb he is changing and then in the end of the episode the same hero throws his wife out of the house😕..After living in the same bedroom for so many days why can't we see a bit of attraction or passion among both the leads ??...There r some scenes where we get some cute eye-locking moments but again in the next frame its back to square one as if nothing happened at all😆🤢...
Then another big problem is the continuity👎🏼...One episode Rajbir sees those scars on Kranti's back and feels sorry;He even asks himself why all this happened ?? but then next morning the same Rajbir wants to defeat Kranti at any cost😕,..Why he never tries to get the answers of last night's question through some means like Sanjay-Nirmal or even that Trivuwan Lal's family ??...Then in another episode Kranti faints into Raj's arms and again in its next episode we don't even get to see what happened after that..why ??😕..Is it so difficult to show a sensible matured Love story between such strong protagonists with such a strong storyline ??😕
Other side tracks like Lovely-Prince and Sanjay-Nirmal hv no momentum at all👎🏼...There is so much scope for Sanjay-Nirmal trrack to make it interesting like they can b a pillar of support for Raj-Kranti and help them resolve all their differences and misunderstandings😳...Why all of a sudden Sanjay-Raj or Kranti-Nirmal track is vanished and why Nirmal track is running like one different story altogether ??😕...
And last but not the least please don't bring this kitchen politics in the show...MRD audience r not at all interested in it🥱...We want to see a Good matured Love Story between Rajbit-Kranti and not this cat and mouse game anymore😳..So can we move on please😊
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Skep agree with u completely. The serial has gone to d dogs. Mentioned in another post the creatives need 2 research bigtime. If nothing watch the following films: The Legend Of Bhagat Singh, Rang De Basanti, Sardar, Gandhi to name a few.

Might I also suggest they read up or atleast watch Pride And Prejudice, Gone With The Wind. What potential this show had. Now its a BT soap. And d KKs trying 2 free India thru a dustbin.😡😡😡. The creatives have botched up big time. Abt the Buddha party actually expected something like that. Back then it was a common scenario. But Ks walking back to the Lal house again. OMG it stank.🤢😡😲. As I said they need 2 research. And R! Whats wrong with him? He's now a lost case it seems.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Great post Jo. we want to see good matured love story.

As Ash said creative shud do more research on the 1940s. I think they can take some idea from some hindi novels by Premchand, Nirala etc to make more realistic. i wud love to see Gandhi ji in it

Some thing like Swades film shud happen here. Raj shud spend a night in poor farmers house.

There shud be more patriotism in this show. Pls reintoduce someone like Satnaam Singh in the show or Shubhankar. Show Raj in action doing some positive things. Loved Gavie in that kushti scene. I want fight scene between Raj n Tribuvan lal younger son prakash

Earlier Kranti was a mystry for Raj n we all loved that thing. But is seems now Raj is not interested to know why kranti married a Buddha or why she ran away from there n why kranti married him(Raj) n why she considers him responsible for her sorrows. Raj shud be shown thinking over these questions. Instead of showing illogical verbal warfare show them doing some introspection
Edited by coolpurvi - 16 years ago

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