Some dissatisfaction with myself....

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Some dissatisfaction,

With myself, I suspect, very deep within myself

Has impelled me all my life to find justification

Not so much to the world – first of all to myself

What is this self inside us, this silent observer,

Severe and speechless critic, who can terrorize us

And urge us on to futile activity,

And in the end, judge us still more severely

For the errors into which his own reproaches drove us.

These lines were written by the poet T.S. Eliot. It gave me the shivers when one of my teachers first read it out in class and so I wanted to share it with you guys. Pretty apt isn't it? You do something because of this "voice" and when faced with the consequences of your actions that same "voice" is your severest critic. This is applicable to both MRD and our real lives.

Both Raj and Kranti are acting in ways, which we wouldn't have believed of them. And which they probably wouldn't do if they thought about their actions logically. But they aren't - neither is looking at things accept from their own biased perspectives and both of are convinced that they are on the right path.

What is it that is driving them to act in a way, which is not in sync with their characters? How far will their sense of being in the right drive them both down the wrong path? How much are Raj and Kranti are at fault for their own actions anyway? Is it them and their ideologies and/or hearts that have turned Kranti into a shrew and Raj into a jerk? Or is it the circumstances? Or is this "dissatisfaction" a combination of it all? Is the much-awaited change of heart finally drawing near?

I would like to believe that it is. Things have reached a climax in the show and now we should go towards a resolution. Personally, I can hardly wait for that track to begin. The realization of what they have done and the ensuing guilt will be worth watching – if the creatives really show some creativity.

...in the end, judge us still more severely

For the errors into which his own reproaches drove us.

Wow.I love Eliot.😊

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Posted: 16 years ago
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First of all I m so happy to see such wonderful writers residing in our forum👏👏..beautifully written dear👏...
Oh and the poem really touched my heart too...
I think Raj and Kranti both were on the right path till they met each other...See Raj believed in British Rule but at the same time he also wanted to follow the path of truth...whereas Kranti believed in Free India but at the same time was also very soft and kind hearted😳
Now if u see Raj can go to any extent..even take a wrong route..even fight a fake case..just to win over Kranti...whereas Kranti can go to any extent..even taunting Raj after he saved her...or taunting him when his father loses his RB-Ship...or taunting him when he loses any case ..just to get that Sadistic Pleasure of defeating her husband..
So the moral of the story is both r unable to see anything beyond their personal enemity now...I know Kranti still is very much into Freedom Movement but still at every point she keeps thinking of how to defeat Rajbir😕...Same can b said about Raj too...He is very much loyal to Britishers but still at every point he keeps thinking of trapping Kranti and show his one-upmanship over her..
Both hv a very strong personality and ego which is coming in their way of success and humanity..So what the solution here ??...Mayb both needs to hv a word with each other keeping aside their egos and then mayb the family members too can explain them the importance of marriage and being together in each and every walks of life😳..
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Posted: 16 years ago
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I agree with Jyo it is written amazingly Arwen...and poem is great as well.
There ego is being a barrier big time. They can't get over it. they want to dig past and tease each other and yes it became a personal war, now they challenge each other face to face. yeah things messed up since one got another to tell that other is not right and they went on proving themselves a winner.
Their ideology was what mattered but right now its their ego which doesn't want to talk to ather one once then continue the war. In this while, they have become something they were not. They just can't keep their a side and look at the fact that their act is harmng themselves......and see where they end up? ..they proved they can't be together ..which is not easy to accept and everyone is hoping and praying for their love-story to start.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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tht was awesum arwen!! after watching the sshow today i m not in a condition to talk bout those idiots ..........so i will juss say ....tht we hav one more amazing writer in the forum ......and its gud to read such mind-blowing posts !!

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Oh How come I missed this post?
There are some on the forum who just come and add their two bits to each and every post. Posts from way beyond are brought forth and the new ones get relegated to the back. I for one, know I missed this one and I have to thank Bugs for bringing it to the front page once again. Sorry about that Arwen.
Yes that poem is certainly introspective and the poet has written it in "solitude thinking". It has so much of sensitivity. After seeing today's epi, I find the above poem too high in thought for these baseless characters. I have been shouting from rooftops that the writers have bungled and that the characters have been crucified for nothing. They (writers) have no insight into human thinking or bonding. Alas!
My concept of a KK is so different from what they are portraying here in the serial. A KK was fiercely independent and one who would rather break than bend. Sohan tauji was shown as that but Kranti today was not even a shadow of what a KK should be. In fact I found her to be deplorable. She had the makings of a good freedom fighter but her character was not developed properly. She has become nothing more than a silly illiterate woman. The story has sunk to such depths, that I don't feel like watching it anymore. The whole serial has become just another soap.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: skeptical

Oh How come I missed this post?

There are some on the forum who just come and add their two bits to each and every post. Posts from way beyond are brought forth and the new ones get relegated to the back. I for one, know I missed this one and I have to thank Bugs for bringing it to the front page once again. Sorry about that Arwen.
Yes that poem is certainly introspective and the poet has written it in "solitude thinking". It has so much of sensitivity. After seeing today's epi, I find the above poem too high in thought for these baseless characters. I have been shouting from rooftops that the writers have bungled and that the characters have been crucified for nothing. They (writers) have no insight into human thinking or bonding. Alas!
My concept of a KK is so different from what they are portraying here in the serial. A KK was fiercely independent and one who would rather break than bend. Sohan tauji was shown as that but Kranti today was not even a shadow of what a KK should be. In fact I found her to be deplorable. She had the makings of a good freedom fighter but her character was not developed properly. She has become nothing more than a silly illiterate woman. The story has sunk to such depths, that I don't feel like watching it anymore. The whole serial has become just another soap.

Skepi I can understand your frustation dear because even I m feeling sick of watching the same verbal battle between RK now...
But dunno why I m still hopefull that the show will take a positive turn soon😕..
U know I m getting lots of positive vibes from BBR now😉😆..She is the only one who can teach Raj and his family a good lesson😃..If she manages to get the power of attorney in Kewal's name and then throws all of them out of the house...then Raj will b forced to take shelter in some poor man's house and finally he will come to terms with the harsh reality of life and might start developing some respect for Kranti😳
I agree Kranti is not the KK anymore we knew but then as a woman when I think about her,I do sympathize with her condition...The era was 1942...its not easy for a girl to just roam around on the streets after her family throws her out of the house😭...No matter how strong she is ,but every girl needs a shelter and a security...Kranti too is no such exception here😭...
Skepti normally I speak against Kranti but here I m speaking in favour of her character just because if u look at her just as a woman then u will feel her pain...where can she go after all ??..Not back to Mamiji's house of course...also she cannot go to Rahim chacha too and become a burden on him...So then the only option left is Raj's house which is her own sasural and she definitely is feeling attached to everyone now whether she shows it or not😭😳...
As a KK she has let herself down👎🏼..but as a Woman even today everyone compromises in life...I can give my own example here...I wanted to become a Ramp Model but my parents wanted to marry me off ...My hubby never wanted me to become a model for obvious reasons..so the final result is I compromised with my life😆...Kranti is doing same thing here..She cried to gain sympathy so that the shelter over her remains which is nothing but a compromise on her part..then again in the bedroom she is her usual self😃...This actually makes her character very much human or else she would hv become a God then😆😊
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Wonderful post Arwen, beautifully written. Rather than looking inside and ponder over the wrongs, these two are looking at each others face and making their moves.

The hatred has got better of common sense.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Hey Arwen (that was Pricess Arwen from LOTR, right?) Thats your profile pic too.. I really like that character.. 😊
And, this was an amazingly well written post, but there is a tragedy here. The show is in dumps, and most of us loyal viewers have all but given up. So your beautifully well thought out emotions dont even justify the crap which is being doled out.
This show had so much scope, but as Skep keeps saying, and I firmly agree with her, the creatives have ruined the show. Its being treated as a stepchild, compared to the other more famous shows from the same kitty, and the results are there for everyone to see.
I m Dew, an ex- ardent MRD fan, and this forum loyalist. Am a regular on this forum usually, but am a little erratic these days, hence missed your post.
Welcome to the forum, hope you have a great time here.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Dear Arwen ............... thank you for the lovely post .............
I felt so much better reading this ............ at least it made me feel connected with all of you out there ......
It gives me no pleasure to say, I am an ex-MRD fan ( like Dew said ) ......... but that is what has happened ............I used to call myself a RK fan ...........I liked the jodi so much ............. 😭😭
Kranti had all the makings of a wonderfully rounded character ...... they have made her a caricature of her formaer self now.
Raj .......... though he was introduced as not-so-lovable character.......... at least he had the potential to develop ............ what has happened here is his character has sunk beyond logic now .........
Now I have only a faint glimmeer of hope ...........
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Awesome post Arwen

I agree with everyone that show has very good potential but production house is treating it as step child. yet I m watchin it only for Raj

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