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Posted: 14 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: -TinkerAbi-

Sabah, wonderful post. As always I have nothing more to add to what you have said. Shilpa aunty, Nupur, Gunjan, CJ, Dia all inspired me in their own ways. My heartfelt thanks to each of the woman who portrayed these wonderful characters.



True heartfelt thanks, although it seems so small in comparison. Even life long support would fail, for what is the worth of enlightenment? One moment of happiness?
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Res :D

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First Sabah, dear i want to give you the highest apprieciation for writing such a beautiful post. I won't praise because the beauty might just lessen.

Second, You know you have my bhabi's name!😆...I just needed to add that for some reason. So i love you name, its beautiful ...means morning right?

Okay coming to the topic, you have brought out wonderful point....the essence of ladies in now days televisions shows and how they are portrayed.

"Nobody objects to a woman being a good writer or sculptor or geneticist if at the same time she manages to be a good wife, a good mother, good-looking, good-tempered, well-dressed, well-groomed, and unaggressive." ~Marya Mannes

Everytime it comes down to being a women...i feel as if we have some broken some type of law by being born a women? The glares...the sarcasm, the talks, passed towards are ones that will never be flaunted towards a man. And thats because they have been given freedom to do anything, while women are expected to live up to their roles...and while obliguing to such we can continue our lives as we wish too.

To be a women is gift that only the fourtunate ones like us get to exprerience....There is in every true woman's heart, a spark of heavenly fire, which lies dormant in the broad daylight of prosperity, but which kindles up and beams and blazes in the dark hour of adversity

Anyway....coming to MJHT Women...well the more is say about them is less...because truly Shilpa Aunty, Nupur, Gunjan, Dia & Cj have shown us the strenghts of women, & weakness of women in many different form.

In each of these character i have seen a true reflection of myself.

Whether its shilpa aunty and her motherly affection towards mayank ...and Nupurs' towards Gunjan ...I saw myself as a sister and mother to my sisters.

Or whether its gunjan's love for her sister and her friends ...i saw myself and the love i hold for my sisters...i felt the pain she felt when she had thoughts she lost nupur...the vivid thoughts if i ever lost my sisters...crossed my mind and i spilt into tears.

Then there was CJ the strong, oppressed lady, who did what her heart wanted...as long as it was the right thing to do... and Dia...the princess....i saw myself as a girl who wanted everythiing in her life to work out and just like her i realized sometimes...everything in life just cannot be.

The women power brought out in this show.....is one that has influenced me alot and i would not be wrong to say that it has taught me alot...and i have become better because of it. weird na? a show teaching you about the reality of life...but you gotta believe it..maybe thats why i'm attached to this show..it gave me something to live by...some rules, morals, beliefs, truth and some tears also....

I salute to all womenkind for being so strong...yet weak at the same time...we are all truly beautiful because the true test of beauty is what lies inside us and whats inside a women is nothing compared to what a man holds inside him.

and i leave off with a simple saying...

"If we are together nothing is impossible. If we are divided all will fail." - Winston Churchill

Edited by -Sajjal- - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
#43
replied in bold, butterfly.

Wow Sunshine, you are a wonderful story teller, I would give you a list of stories I am not too fond of and I know when you would narrate them, i would like them. Butterfly your swaying has such profundity, like that night sky of stars that seem a mess, but by which we can ALL guide ourselves. Okay I know I am as always swaying. But what a brilliant story and I am sure it must have touched many hearts and changed perceptions and beliefs for the better. People think movies are for fun but I think the best ones are those which inspire us. But then Sunshine why did you say you would in a way prefer Lizzy over Ripley, what is it in Lizzy and Scully which you didn't find in Ripley? Ripley, was a revelation because she was that first 'example' of what women could be, how they might be portrayed, breaking people's (mostly men's) expectations in terms of films. She was a strong woman, who finds purpose and love before which all strong women were considered not in need of love or otherwise. I regard her for her strength, but since it was the first, there was much left unsaid unlike Elizabeth, who had that charm, what I call 'essential mischievousness'; Scully a mixture of both Ripley and Elizabeth.

All women who did not make 'amends' for being women.

So beautifully said, a child protects a mother or possibly it enables a mother to find that inner strength to carry on and fight against all odds. So true about all the characters in the show, in particular Nupur with Gunjan and Shilpa aunty and Nupur. Gunjan and Ash, so much potential was there for this relationship Sunshine but it wasn't explored. I have loved these two girls together and I remember posting and posting for Ash to be not made negative and this relationship be taken forward but it didn't work out so. True, but I see that lesson learned in Gunjan. I see it in all women, even little girls, who mother their siblings. There is something that makes us want to nurture and protect. I am not saying men do not have it, I am saying they hide it well. :P

I am still writing the reply.😆 Butterfly, i would wish for this to never end.

Love you always,

Senny.Love you more and more by each dawn and each dusk.
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Posted: 14 years ago
#44
Sunshine here we go again, keeping in mind the topic hopefully. Sunshine okay I know this is not on topic again but then I might not get to share this again.

Since i was young, I have grown up to see women being associated as out of two that is man and woman, the latter is defined by her softness, warmth, delicacy and elegance. This is the picture perfect definition. It is true, these are the defining characters and I would like to have them but in particular the delicacy aspect is what leads to an interpretation, instilled in the minds of many is that woman is the weaker gender as they are not physically well built.

There lies the major flaw with the definition of strength, a woman can be much more strong and courageous than men, its a fact proven over time but sadly not acknowleged, one basic example being the number of widows left behind all alone and who have not given up and despite the new problems arising with their just getting the label of a widow has not detered them from carrying on.

I don't remember many strong characterisations of women on TV though in the shows on Zee Tv , I saw many inspiring ladies who denoted strength and provided a new understanding of women. But then I don't remember them well. How I wish they made those shows again or at least there was a rerun so I could watch them, learn and understand better.

But amidst all these new shows, came a show as a breathe of fresh air and it made me watch it from the first week was Mjht. The best part was its beautiful characterisations, I say was because somewhere in between the characters and their defining traits got lost and the writers never were interested in finding those lost traits. But these five women in the show have denoted a beautiful meaning of womanhood.

You have written so well for each, I don't know what more to say. About Shilpa aunty, the warmth of a mother and yet the grace, elegance was portrayed so effortlessly that it was inevitable people considered her to be Arjun's real mother. This was said for no one but her because not just her character of a strong, fun loving, intelligent, friendly, yet an elegant mum was beautifully written but depicted with so much ease or as it seemed and to utmost perfection that such a mistake seemed not a big deal.

About Nupur, what to say. Nupur is one of the most unique characters on telly, many might disagree and some even consider her to be too loud but I don't only because they are not able to see some things which outweigh all the rest. She was firm and tough to protect herself and her sister as she knew that she had to do it and no one would come rescuing them, similar to the character of Ripley, okay may be not so similar hehe.

It was Nupur's beautiful heart that made her character ever so amazing, the way she was always concerned for Gunjan and always wanted her sister to live, to stay happy, to enjoy her life. I totally agree, it was her child like innocence which always came out and pulled anyone and everyone towards her. Be it with Mayank, Shilpa aunty or any of her friends.

Sunshine I would write more for Nupur and Gunjan, mostly I would like to write on Dia and CJ. I would be back on this. I am really sorry.

Much love,

Senny.
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Posted: 14 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: a little faith

replied in bold, butterfly.

Wow Sunshine, you are a wonderful story teller, I would give you a list of stories I am not too fond of and I know when you would narrate them, i would like them. Butterfly your swaying has such profundity, like that night sky of stars that seem a mess, but by which we can ALL guide ourselves. Okay I know I am as always swaying. But what a brilliant story and I am sure it must have touched many hearts and changed perceptions and beliefs for the better. People think movies are for fun but I think the best ones are those which inspire us. But then Sunshine why did you say you would in a way prefer Lizzy over Ripley, what is it in Lizzy and Scully which you didn't find in Ripley? Ripley, was a revelation because she was that first 'example' of what women could be, how they might be portrayed, breaking people's (mostly men's) expectations in terms of films. She was a strong woman, who finds purpose and love before which all strong women were considered not in need of love or otherwise. I regard her for her strength, but since it was the first, there was much left unsaid unlike Elizabeth, who had that charm, what I call 'essential mischievousness'; Scully a mixture of both Ripley and Elizabeth.

All women who did not make 'amends' for being women.

So beautifully said, a child protects a mother or possibly it enables a mother to find that inner strength to carry on and fight against all odds. So true about all the characters in the show, in particular Nupur with Gunjan and Shilpa aunty and Nupur. Gunjan and Ash, so much potential was there for this relationship Sunshine but it wasn't explored. I have loved these two girls together and I remember posting and posting for Ash to be not made negative and this relationship be taken forward but it didn't work out so. True, but I see that lesson learned in Gunjan. I see it in all women, even little girls, who mother their siblings. There is something that makes us want to nurture and protect. I am not saying men do not have it, I am saying they hide it well. :P

I am still writing the reply.😆 Butterfly, i would wish for this to never end.

Love you always,

Senny.Love you more and more by each dawn and each dusk.



Aww Sunshine, you are always so kind. About Ripley I see and I can certainly imagine the earthquake this show must have brought.😆 Now now this is a good earthquake hehe. Oh, Sunshine you must have been able to see and appreciate Lizzy better than I did as well because I haven't been able to draw any comparisions which would make me understand the difference and the way Lizzy brought in new light with her.

I agree, women do have it in them to have an urge to nurture or protect those who they feel need it, regardless of the facts at times hehe. Gunjan did get a chance to do that I agree, though still I wish it was dealt with better but then there were so many things which could have been.

Love you always.
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Posted: 14 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: Senny

Sunshine here we go again, keeping in mind the topic hopefully. Sunshine okay I know this is not on topic again but then I might not get to share this again.


Since i was young, I have grown up to see women being associated as out of two that is man and woman, the latter is defined by her softness, warmth, delicacy and elegance. This is the picture perfect definition. It is true, these are the defining characters and I would like to have them but in particular the delicacy aspect is what leads to an interpretation, instilled in the minds of many is that woman is the weaker gender as they are not physically well built.

There lies the major flaw with the definition of strength, a woman can be much more strong and courageous than men, its a fact proven over time but sadly not acknowleged, one basic example being the number of widows left behind all alone and who have not given up and despite the new problems arising with their just getting the label of a widow has not detered them from carrying on.

I don't remember many strong characterisations of women on TV though in the shows on Zee Tv , I saw many inspiring ladies who denoted strength and provided a new understanding of women. But then I don't remember them well. How I wish they made those shows again or at least there was a rerun so I could watch them, learn and understand better.

But amidst all these new shows, came a show as a breathe of fresh air and it made me watch it from the first week was Mjht. The best part was its beautiful characterisations, I say was because somewhere in between the characters and their defining traits got lost and the writers never were interested in finding those lost traits. But these five women in the show have denoted a beautiful meaning of womanhood.

You have written so well for each, I don't know what more to say. About Shilpa aunty, the warmth of a mother and yet the grace, elegance was portrayed so effortlessly that it was inevitable people considered her to be Arjun's real mother. This was said for no one but her because not just her character of a strong, fun loving, intelligent, friendly, yet an elegant mum was beautifully written but depicted with so much ease or as it seemed and to utmost perfection that such a mistake seemed not a big deal.

About Nupur, what to say. Nupur is one of the most unique characters on telly, many might disagree and some even consider her to be too loud but I don't only because they are not able to see some things which outweigh all the rest. She was firm and tough to protect herself and her sister as she knew that she had to do it and no one would come rescuing them, similar to the character of Ripley, okay may be not so similar hehe.

It was Nupur's beautiful heart that made her character ever so amazing, the way she was always concerned for Gunjan and always wanted her sister to live, to stay happy, to enjoy her life. I totally agree, it was her child like innocence which always came out and pulled anyone and everyone towards her. Be it with Mayank, Shilpa aunty or any of her friends.

Sunshine I would write more for Nupur and Gunjan, mostly I would like to write on Dia and CJ. I would be back on this. I am really sorry.

Much love,

Senny.



Just wonderful butterfly. The forum lost so many voices in the last months, if not year, but yours is missed significantly, its soul is diminished because of it.

True, the weaker gender label. Without taking specifics, for there are many women who could knock some men off their blocks, I have only ever considered this to refer to physical strength. (Maybe that was its origin) for i have seen that men do tend to have this 'man's strength' that added ability to turn screws and lift heavy things, although many women have earned this capability either out of a need ( a need not to burden) or necessity (necessity because men could not, would not help)

If the phrase 'spoken' implies our lack of ability to keep tears in, then I have two more points to add to yours. One, that a man who can cry (appropriately, not only when he can't have his way) is far stronger than a man who can not in my opinion, stronger in that he is not afraid of his feelings. Two. We women only cry one small percentage of those tears, that escape despite ourselves. Thereby taking these two points, who is more stronger, a person who feels nothing, sees nothing, is never moved or touched and therefore NEVER cries; OR a person who is continually moved, touched, notices every bud bloom, every petal that falls, feels every moment and is continually keeping her emotions upon a brim, giving them way to sway and be unrestrained, so that they wash over her soul, whilst keeping a composure of 'the same'. That is what most women do, their face may look the same the moment before and after the thunderbolt BUt their insides have been destroyed. How is that possible without strength? To keep that dam of emotions alive and yet upon that brink. So what if one or two tears escape, there is an ocean of feeling waiting to burst forth at any moment!

Another 'male' member also pmed me about the fact that there are many good female characterizations, and true there are more now, but still I am talking about those females who are not merely central to the story, but rather strong within themselves. There is a difference.

Spinsters too, not just widows, spinsters like myself, NOT that I am saying I am strong, but trying to be, butterfly.

Butterfly, you are always welcome, always wanted. Love Sabah
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Posted: 14 years ago
#47

But guys i want to add....even though women did shine through the show, the men were none less. They actually showed us that not all guys are the same....we just need to becareful of the ones we pick.

There teachings and beliefs showed true definition of a man of with honour....and thats why we all were left trailing with thoughts of having someone like mayank..samrat...uday...uday...or benji in our lives. :D

Sabah sorrry for trailing off the topic.

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Posted: 14 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: -Sajjal-

Dear Sajjal, replied in bold.

First Sabah, dear i want to give you the highest apprieciation for writing such a beautiful post. I won't praise because the beauty might just lessen.Thank you, I have never sought praise, only inspiration, momentum. Do you ever thank the fork for the meal? Or praise the pin upon which the painting hangs?

Second, You know you have my bhabi's name!😆...I just needed to add that for some reason. So i love you name, its beautiful ...means morning right?Haan, I love my name too, I love that moment you awake in the morning, when everything is possible, that new lease for life, fresh start towards a better day, a better you. That is why I don't celebrate birthdays, for every day is the birth of a new day.

Okay coming to the topic, you have brought out wonderful point....the essence of ladies in now days televisions shows and how they are portrayed.

"Nobody objects to a woman being a good writer or sculptor or geneticist if at the same time she manages to be a good wife, a good mother, good-looking, good-tempered, well-dressed, well-groomed, and unaggressive." ~Marya Mannes

Everytime it comes down to being a women...i feel as if we have some broken some type of law by being born a women? The glares...the sarcasm, the talks, passed towards are ones that will never be flaunted towards a man. And thats because they have been given freedom to do anything, while women are expected to live up to their roles...and while obliguing to such we can continue our lives as we wish too.True, very astute. I agree why should we make 'amends' for being women. I feel it more nowadays, after the 'emancipation' of men, this back lash against successful women. If the beautiful ones amongst us succeed, then it was 'because of her looks' and the plain looking because she had to prove herself. Men and WOMEN too, we don't support each other.

On a tangent I have always believed that the notion of the stick thin, high heeled beauty was just a propaganda tool to make the 'weaker gender' remain weaker. Sorry, I know I may have crossed a line here, but I am talking upon a whim, and only in the general not specifics.

To be a women is gift that only the fourtunate ones like us get to exprerience....There is in every true woman's heart, a spark of heavenly fire, which lies dormant in the broad daylight of prosperity, but which kindles up and beams and blazes in the dark hour of adversityBeautiful, true, like a phoenix rising!

Anyway....coming to MJHT Women...well the more is say about them is less...because truly Shilpa Aunty, Nupur, Gunjan, Dia & Cj have shown us the strenghts of women, & weakness of women in many different form.i don't like weakness so much, rather our vulnerabilities. Yes, all human are weak, but in comparison to men, we are more vulnerable not fragile.

In each of these character i have seen a true reflection of myself.Very blessed indeed.

Whether its shilpa aunty and her motherly affection towards mayank ...and Nupurs' towards Gunjan ...I saw myself as a sister and mother to my sisters.In turn they are blessed.

Or whether its gunjan's love for her sister and her friends ...i saw myself and the love i hold for my sisters...i felt the pain she felt when she had thoughts she lost nupur...the vivid thoughts if i ever lost my sisters...crossed my mind and i spilt into tears.True, that irreplaceable loss, for sisters who are our sisters by blood and love are such a rare gift indeed.

Then there was CJ the strong, oppressed lady, who did what her heart wanted...as long as it was the right thing to do... and Dia...the princess....i saw myself as a girl who wanted everythiing in her life to work out and just like her i realized sometimes...everything in life just cannot be.Again, wonderful. Yes, that road block that opens paths!

The women power brought out in this show.....is one that has influenced me alot and i would not be wrong to say that it has taught me alot...and i have become better because of it. weird na? a show teaching you about the reality of life...but you gotta believe it..maybe thats why i'm attached to this show..it gave me something to live by...some rules, morals, beliefs, truth and some tears also....Not weird. MJHT more that any reality TV show, showcased another way to live. This world is full of people telling you how you shouldn't lead your life, but few, very few that would actually paint a picture of how you should.
MJHT made me a better daughter, sister and friend. Mayank inspired me to walk with broken ankle, in four inches of snow for two miles just to make a friend happy for half an hour, then that return journey. The will of love!

It showed me through Shilpa aunty how to be 'funny' with my mother. It inspired me to be that 'child' that mayu again, whereby I let my mother stroke me to sleep again, in her lap.

It reminded me throughGunjan that Haya only adds beauty to everything it taints not weakness.

It...it..it..the list continues on. IT is a legend of a show, I will never forget, for I carry this affected heart for the rest of my days, until I become dust!

I salute to all womenkind for being so strong...yet weak at the same time...we are all truly beautiful because the true test of beauty is what lies inside us and whats inside a women is nothing compared to what a man holds inside him.

and i leave off with a simple saying...

"If we are together nothing is impossible. If we are divided all will fail." - Winston Churchill

Wonderful. "I am woman, hear me roar!" Lisa Simpson :P

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Posted: 14 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: -Sajjal-

But guys i want to add....even though women did shine through the show, the men were none less. They actually showed us that not all guys are the same....we just need to becareful of the ones we pick.

There teachings and beliefs showed true definition of a man of with honour....and thats why we all were left trailing with thoughts of having someone like mayank..samrat...uday...uday...or benji in our lives. :D

Sabah sorrry for trailing off the topic.



Ah the magnificent men of MJHT! Those thoughts I keep to myself, for some things should be kept as secrets between you and your own heart.

Let me just say it reminded me that I should not abandon MANkind, for if the human heart is capable of imagining a character then it is truly capable of becoming such a character too.

Pleasant thoughts, indeed! Love Sabah

Edited by a little faith - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Aww...sabah di... glad 2 c u bac here!!!😃
Such a beautiful post !!!!!!!!!!!!👏
i'm really thnkful 2 cvs .. as in dey hav potrayed each & every aspect of woman...be it a mother, a sister, a wife, a girlfriend or a friend......so beautifully...😳
wil b bac !!


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