Raghav - to forgive or not to forgive? - Page 3

It's been a while since I stepped here. 😆

Everything about Esha and Raghav are disturbing.

I will not blame him for being used by Esha. He was in his drunk state and if Esha took advantage of him it was and is her fault. But this is also true that he brought this upon himself. He shared a drink with her knowing her manipulative tendencies. He broke Pallavi's trust and he chose to hide it. That's worse than cheating.

Raghav has no point left in the area of defense. He has lost it all.

He should have confessed this to Pallavi.

Was he not the kind of guy who used to do the shit and face it's consequences. Here, he is running away from Pallavi. He's being secretive about this and it's fidelity.

He is disappointing and disagreeable now.

The Raghav we all know owed up to his mistakes. And if it meant to loose Pallavi, then so be it. His mistakes cannot be justified by keeping Pallavi in the dark. Wrong is a wrong.

If Pallavi turns kind enough to forgive him (which I don't want), then too he does not have the right to find her flaws anymore.

This seems like an interesting thread.

Do you really think Raghav is redeemable after this? Can someone really forgive their partners after they sleep (considering that Raghav thinks he did) with another woman? Even if Pallavi is deeply, irrevocably, intensely in love with Raghav, can she really compromise with her self respect and the sanctity of her relationship with Raghav and move forward with a man, she knows, cheated on her. Inebriated or not is not the condition here, it's the action that speaks. Because Raghav was well aware of Esha's advances before he collapsed, yet he took a chance and went ahead with whatever she was trying to do. Even if he wasn't expecting her to take advantage of his drunken state, he could very well see that she got way more close to him than he would expect or entertain. He overstepped the boundaries of his relationship when he indulged Esha with his small talk, his deep eye locks and his memories of her. Can Pallavi overlook all this along with his physical intimacy and truly ever be happy living with this man? Honestly, a real woman would never, could never and should never let the love for a man make her so compelled and weak, that she has to compromise on her values and respect.

Raghav can die of guilt yet it won't be enough for him to redeem himself. He broke Pallavi's trust the moment he decided on hiding Esha's message from her and everything else just kept piling on, in that list of "mistakes" he committed. So in my opinion, we can think about Raghav's pain and guilt and everything else but his pain will always be his own doing while Pallavi bears the weight of his lack of respect towards their relationship and Pallavi's emotions. Just saying that you love your wife is not enough, it is important to act like you love her. And since the day Esha entered Raghav's life, it definitely feels like he just developed an unknown attachment with Pallavi but his heart was still stuck with Esha and her memories.

P.S.- No offence intended. I hope you don't take my opinion otherwise.

Originally posted by: amalaragam

I agree with u but cannot trust writers they are showing all the things as cringe as mandar track

Pallavi not going to award function to take care of mandar similar to that raghav rushing to esha’s house to see she is all right or not.

Hecould have sent Farad the loyal friend to check on Esha instead of rushing himself, those things make us hate Raghav more than understanding his pain

I am thinking both Eshha and Raghav can be innocent and Lskshmi could have misused her power as well to undress them as both are drunk.

I do not see a need to be in the show but they kept her, she is good in misusing the power.

She would have known the news that Raghav was with a girl and she did not let pallavi go in the night.

I honestly feel Esha is more cringe than mandar. Her propositions and actions will put Mandar to shame. I don't think Esha is innocent. She may be somehow party to Laxmi but she's definitely a part of something happening.

Originally posted by: farheenbachani

Totally agree! I made a similar post called mistakes! And outlined similar points. His mistake was the joining the game challenge and esha tricked him into that as she knows he will never refuse a challenge. We know that from beginning days when pallavi used to challenge him and he used to say raghav rao kabhi koi challenge haarta nahi so here too just like a typical man, he accepted the challenge and when u look at it, it was one bottle and both of them sharing so he didnt think he would get that drunk. He was way more drunk here then he has been after having a couple of bottles during the diamond smuggling days so kuch toh gadbad hai. Also he thought he had laid his cards out that she can try as much as she can to patai him but he wont be pataid as he is married and has an awesome wife and they love each other. So after that he thought he was just having drink with a friend as that is what esha said. She got drunk in her one peg and confessed and hugged. He looked uncomfortable but when she said are u feeling uncomfortable around me, he said no bcoz first of all she is drunk and second of all she was just beaten by her husband, she also admitted the reason she left him. He feels sorry for her. She got stuck with the worst and here he is happy with his life. At that point he forgives her in his mind and he tells her to go sleep and she says i dont want to sleep etc and he looks a little uncomfortable when she says can i ask u for something. It was a simple request of talking and reminiscing as friends and he agreed but she also said we wont talk about my sad past etc which once again made him feel guilty and then she challenged him and he thought whats the harm. Ive had a lot more than this and not gotten that drunk so she will lose ofcourse and that way atleast she will get some peace and he will feel less guilty for misunderstanding her all those years ago. Well esha as we know knew Raghav very well. His insecurities, his likes, dislikes etc and we know how she possessively talked about him to Pallavi saying he is so angry and impulsive etc which showed that she knew him like the back of her hand. They were together way more than pallavi and raghav are so she knows what his weaknesses are and knows what buttons to push. Also her acting hurt and on the road etc she knows he will save her as he had that in him. He won’t leave a girl out in the night alone. So all of this i feel is her plan and raghav fell into it hook line and sinker. So no i dont feel he is at fault but i do feel that he should tell pallavi but then again look at real life. Which husband will have a one night stand and come home and tell his wife who he claims to love more than anything that i slept with my ex as i imagined it was you after i had a drink fest even though i promised u i wouldnt but felt bad for my ex as her husband abused her and i felt sorry for her so joined her while she drank. Tell me a husband will come home and say all that. On the same day…NEVER! It will take a couple of days or more when he gets courage to face Pallavi but by then sunny will create the drama and tell pallavi and she will be upset and hurt but would it be less if raghav told her on the same day? NOPE…it wouldn’t have been any less and raghav telling her would be even worse bcoz she just spend a night in a police station looking for him worried sick and he was with his ex drinking and sleeping. It would have hurt way more. A few days later you forget what exactly you were doing at the time and the adrenaline has worn off and you’re able to calmly think and reason. So yeah these two need to talk but without interference. I want raghav to tell her but ofcourse that wont happen. As for forgiving, Pallavi has a forgiving nature so she will forgive but i dont want her to make it easy for Raghav. And i want Raghav to try extra hard to gain her trust.

To me Raghav's error was he was at a wrong place at a wrong time. Yes he helped her and saved her. Sought and got is closure, and there he should have drawn a line! Use drink share karne ko bola tha... na Peeta... what big deal it would have been? He shouldn't have forgotten that he had made a promise to his wife. He should have honoured that over his ex! Me too was engraved in his head, he knew his intentions yet he was sitting there! Why was he not ok with Pallavi feeding a morsel of food to Mandar in front of the whole D clan and what was he thinking while he agreed to a drinking challenge with in ex when he was alone in a hotel room with her?

I still believe he's not guilty of what he's been alleged that he has done. But his mistake is not limited to drink sharing. His mistake is he needs to learn to value and prioritise his relationship and the promises made in that relationship. He can't snap at P the night before and reconcile followed by a daaru party with his ex just 24 hours laters. That makes him look dubious even if he's not. I am not doubting his love for Pallavi. But he need to value the honesty and integrity in the marriage they chose to honour.

Originally posted by: SexyPotato

Sorry Sonia (I hope I get your name right) for quoting this line, not really have the intention to have a discussion but I couldn't ignore that line. It triggered me bad. Because whenever a cheating happens here in our society, our society always gives the same reason (when it's about man). Galti ho gaye & all, deserves a chance... I know intention here is May be different

Please ignore this post. I just couldn't ignore this.

& I hope you're doing well.🤗

P.s. I'm not shaming you or calling you anything for this. Just found that line disturbing.

I am not the one to advocate ignorance when the partner is a habituated cheat and has intentions to live a dual life. That is something that is not once acceptable to me. Infidelity is a deal breaker. Period! But here he made a judgment error. He committed a murder... but it was more of an accident. Doesn't mean he should go scot free but doesn't imply that he's a heartless murderer either.

My premise of agreeing for a chance for Raghav is:

1. He was not even in the state to walk straight line... imagining his wife and here the sober woman had malicious intentions while closing in on him. I don't know if you watched the episode... but her dialogue that threw me off was, "toh kya hua ki tum kisi aur ka naam le rahe ho. Pass toh mere ho na!" Like really. I was disgusted. It was like intoxicated Pallavi carried by Mandar and Pallavi held his hand asking not to leave her. Genders reversed, it would have been an uproar. The woman violated her boundaries and his delusional state. This may not really be an excuse for his preservation because I know and agree he SHOULDN'T have been there at that hour. But if he was violated in his inebriated state, it will be more like victim shaming. I know they will never address this just like no one found out Pallavi was drugged during manglagaur.

2. I still have hopes that nothing has happened between them. Its a trap laid out for him and he like a fool is walking into that trap. He's at fault for being so stupid. So I don't wanna punish him for alleged fall out.

Why I think he deserve a chance is because, he loves her but that chance shouldn't come so easy. He needs to pay for his impulsive actions. He needs to learn to value her and her trust. Fria very beautifully put in her post in this thread that he needs to learn to be Pallavi's husband Raghav. And I think and have faith, that he's moulding into that. He should be given a chance but not served in a platter, let him earn it... the harder his path the better.

However, Pallavi shouldn't also forgive him soon this time. She should take her own time and decide for herself.

And yes, I am Sonia... and no you haven't offended me in a slightest bit 🤗

Originally posted by: reshanu02

Just a question what if he did have that ONS this is we r looking thru Raghavs point of view...him imagining pallavi...but Esha since she was drunk too ...again Raghav thinking Esha doesn't knowing this...then what ??

esha was drunk but sober, she closed in even after knowing that Raghav was calling for Pallavi.

If Raghav had malice in his intention, had ONS knowing it was esha.., or even wanna hide it from her. That would have written Raghav off for me permanently.

Originally posted by: -abz-

It's been a while since I stepped here. 😆

Everything about Esha and Raghav are disturbing.

I can't agree with you more here. The conspicuous actions and proposition of promiscuous relationship crawls up on my skin. Esha was Raghav's "True" love... once again proves this guy is not a best judge of people and never was 🤔

I will not blame him for being used by Esha. He was in his drunk state and if Esha took advantage of him it was and is her fault.

Yes. He was violated over here.

But this is also true that he brought this upon himself. He shared a drink with her knowing her manipulative tendencies. He broke Pallavi's trust and he chose to hide it. That's worse than cheating.

This is exactly why I want Raghav to suffer. He's not learning from his mistakes and every time starts committing a new blunder. Esha is manipulating him emotionally and he's falling into manipulation. He needs to be a man enough to stay true by his words and honour the promises he made to his wife. I thus can empathise him but don't feel sorry for whatever consequences befalls him.

Raghav has no point left in the area of defense. He has lost it all.

He should have confessed this to Pallavi.

Was he not the kind of guy who used to do the shit and face it's consequences. Here, he is running away from Pallavi. He's being secretive about this and it's fidelity.

I agree. Pallavi deserves truth. She's already cheated and on top of that he's denying her the truth and her right to choose. And not to forget, the more he hides, the tighter the noose gets. It breaks me to think how hurt she's gonna be here.

He is disappointing and disagreeable now.

The Raghav we all know owed up to his mistakes. And if it meant to loose Pallavi, then so be it. His mistakes cannot be justified by keeping Pallavi in the dark. Wrong is a wrong.

He's wrong. There is no argument here. But he was always a messed up guy when it comes to emotions. He never knows how to handle his emotions. He needs to grow up.

If Pallavi turns kind enough to forgive him (which I don't want), then too he does not have the right to find her flaws anymore.

In my opinion, he never had a right to pick on her flaws. She's more sorted and clean hearted than him. I don't ever remember her taking him for granted or even lie to him. I love how open she was in Mandar track. Such a clean hearted soul.

But just you know, when the hiding business is concerned... even though he's wrong, I would still like to ponder over a few facts. This is not to justify him but I love to delve into emotions and motivations behind actions.

Most girls don't ever report or speak about abuse, because they fear societal ridicule. Many of them finding flaws in their own self. Could it be a case with Raghav? Ofcourse the guy doesn't know about abuse, but he has been cursed and blamed for too many things all through his life. Could it be such psychological issue where he feels he would be ridiculed? Which in this case, we know he will be!

When did he ever rise over his abandonment issues? I know this can't be his argument always. But if I remember correctly, he didn't tell Amma too how he got Pallavi to agree to the marriage during that track. When the consequences are only about him, he takes it head on but when he fear one of his own will leave, he chickens out.

He however doesn't understand, ignoring a problem doesn't work. He in fact lets it escalate to the disastrous levels by his sheer over confidence and ignorance.

I wish he comes clean sooner than faster.

Even if Pallavi forgives Raghav’s misjudgment on night , how can she overlook things he is doing after sleeping with Esha ? Raghav is still entertaining Esha after sleeping with her , while keeping Pallavi in dark. How shameful! I’d really want Pallavi to walk away from this relationship even if it’s for a small break .

Originally posted by: Couch.Potato

Even if Pallavi forgives Raghav’s misjudgment on night , how can she overlook things he is doing after sleeping with Esha ? Raghav is still entertaining Esha after sleeping with her , while keeping Pallavi in dark. How shameful! I’d really want Pallavi to walk away from this relationship even if it’s for a small break .

I seriously don't mind her taking a break. Because that will help Raghav put things into perspective and what he told Pallavi to do then... Sort his priorities!

He's guilty for what he has done... And I also see his guilt is not misplaced towards Esha but it's towards Pallavi. But Esha is manipulating him with her emotional blackmailing and he's not pulling himself out of it. He did convey to Esha where his heart lies but he's not shunning her away and that's absolutely wrong considering the scenario they have been in. His words and his actions are contradictory that's something he needs to realize and sort.

In any case Pallavi need to know the truth and keeping her in dark while meeting Esha if it's for helping her is not acceptable. That's why Raghav doesn't deserve a readymade easy apology. He would need to earn her trust and learn to value it. No two ways about it!

I don't want Pallavi ever forgiving Ragav. He don't deserve her. His behaviour with Pallavi before and after that fateful night is too pathetic. Ragavi for me is dead now. Earlier I use to wait for their scenes together. But now I don't enjoy them. Better they go separate way.

Let Raghav be in guilt mode forever and let him be with Esha forever, his soulmate and first love.

It will be very difficult for Pallavi. Let her choose her own life independent of Raghav.