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Posted: 4 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: subbuappu


But the same audience wants the FL wants to cry buckets ... I often think does emotionally strong person and crying face go hand in hand!?? I know crying is not a sign of weak emotion but always crying is weak right?? Balance is what needed... Don't know what exactly is needed to the audience... What audience looks in every track is FL being mahaan and all forgiving and crying in whole track but right at the end will save the family from enemies... This is applicable for all tracks no matter what the track is about...

After every crying session, the fls usually are charged up saying now i will turn around the problem that is directed towards me😂😂 strong fl taking issues head on👍 As for taking the crap from their families, its their sanskaars😂 ppl want to see sanskaari fl..

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Posted: 4 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: Lonelythots

This is such high expectations from itv tbh 😂raghav’s redemption 1.0 itself was surprising as per itv standards . And with the current competency of the writers, i doubt they can flesh out another one. the heavy dramatic dialogues by the characters and the drama is so typical itv. Its just that they have run out of ideas and so falling back to the cliches... their relationship was always disbalanced.. pallavi is always on moral high ground so how can it even be balanced ?? Is raghav going to realise his mistake or are they going to move him to the more darker side for having attacked pallavi?
the point of contention right now is that the two characters are sparring over money issues.. its not about smuggling and its ill effects on his family which is ideally what i would think pallavi will educate him about.. how does pallavi being hurt now change his stance on money is power belief which is what pallavi seems to want to change. ?? Atleast majority of her dialogues say so.. the intent of the track and the dialogues by both the lead characters dont match.. and audience like us will have to use twisted logics to justify the writing..

Pallavi getting shot is probably cuz shivangi needing a well deserved break so the dramatic plot point introduced to justify reducing her screenspace for 2-3 episodes..

What most people don't know about high tempered people is, they learn only when something huge hits their life. That's when they learn what they have been doing. Regret is why they recover.

Raghav and Pallavi's reasons are justifying, Raghav's actions are not. That's the drawback in the plot. He is hurting Pallavi and he will not realize until a grave error shatters him completely. Ego works that way.

This plot can turn the tables or drown the show. It is up to the makers now.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: -abz-

What he needs to do:

I don't know why but I want to say it off once and for all. Raghav reflects a certain part in me, might be in the negative sense but the growth is what I wanted to see in him. He did grow and evolve in the redemption track but dissolving anger is not easy. It takes thousands of mistake and one huge guilt tripping action to reflect upon themselves. I will not and I cannot justify his actions. He has destroyed himself and Pallavi through and through in this track. Anger gets the worst in a person, sometimes, a person changes completely due to regression they feel from their actions.

Raghav was 17 when he saw the worst in front of his eyes. Seventeen is a tender age to hold responsibilities in the shoulder but the age is not tender enough to not learn from the mistakes. Growing up being split in the mental space is horrendous for any human being. He has issues, he has regrets, the point is to evolve from the worst and not become the worst. The world in his point of view runs through money, we all can understand that. I, despite hating his actions, can see where all this is coming from; anger is screening his rationality. What he is emoting is raw, matching with the real world quite understandably. He will regret his actions, he will regret his mistakes. This is also true that I don't want Pallavi to forgive him easily.

The sober thoughts fade when irrational anger surges an impulse in a person. Raghav has been impulsive ever since the beginning. Even now, he is being himself to Pallavi. The suppressed demons inside him has found an outlet.

What he tremendously needs is a therapist. He has been through a LOT. It's not normal to carry such a baggage. He needs to cry out his past. People call that a mental breakdown, in real, it is a mental let out. Honestly, people who cry their hearts out turn stronger in the end of the day. It takes guts to cry, to accept oneself, to break themselves free from the word called 'guilt'. When the outlet is suppressed, anger takes its form, impulse takes its form and it brings out the worst in a person.

Raghav didn't get a chance to acknowledge himself. He is in fact running away from him. He is hurting Pallavi in that process. I will be frank and direct to say this out every time, I am and will always be on Pallavi's side. More than Raghav, Pallavi has pulled me to her side. What he did to her in the past two episodes are horrific, he has hurt her tremendously but his demons need a calming embrace. Pallavi cannot give that to him, he needs to see through it himself. She is not some superhuman.

His anger issues need an assurance, an anchor. Neither Pallavi nor Amma can give that to him. It is Raghav who needs to see through himself. People holding such mental calamity usually deny their issues in front.

Those who cannot love themselves are incapable of giving love to others.

Love is not making the other person grow. Love is growing together.

Love cannot be possessive. Love gives a life time affirmation that the other person will be beside you not matter what goes wrong.

Love is assurance.

Raghav right now is at his worst, it really does not mean he cannot change.

I want a redefined love story of Raghav- Pallavi where they are not over possessive, where they hold each other emotionally and not physically.

This track can give us that prospect.

Though I loathe his actions, he can evolve from this. Learning does not need an age.

Abi words 💯

This is so well-thought and well- put.

Hope makers read this ..

Actually his issues were evident from the time he hallucinated pall saying that she did the Keerthi MMS..

Also your sayings about love 💯

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Posted: 4 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: missFiesty_69

You have said everything what I wanted to say Sammy 🥺🥺🥺

@b: exactly!!

I was a proud fan of Raghav Rao till yesterday 😭but today I feel truly heart broken 💔 🥺because he has also become that cliche ML who throws the FL out of his home. How will ever support him again 🥺😒 Raghav was so many things but never insensitive. He valued Pallavi over everything. What happened today? Could anger blind your love this much?

Anger issues, past are legit reasons. I agree your past demons can haunt you and change your decisions but... Everything has a limit. He can't hide behind his past everytime something goes wrong. That is just not right 🥺🥺🥺

How could he do this? Usne ek jhatke mein Pallavi ko beghar bana diya 🥺😡

In one day, he went from being one of ITV's best to one of the worst 🥺😒

Pallavi's intentions were only one . To make him follow the straight laced path. Thats all. She didnot ask him to stop working, nor did ask him to change professions. She was concerned just like a good wife. She doesnot deserve this.

And I agree with you, galti usne kiya, tax evasion usne kiya, goli kyun Pallavi kay? He should take it and when she takes it for him, I want that guilt to overpower him and which will force him to change his ways.

Pals baby you don't deserve this. Ditch the Raos, and the Deshmukhs and leave Hyderabad. Let them to their own devices. Sadne do unko aur make a happy life for yourself, fulfilling your passions.

I know her, she will forgive him. Because that is Pallavi. But for once I wish she didnot. Atleast even if she does, I want him to work so hard for it like you wouldn't believe. Hyderabad track se zyada redemption chahiye mujhe. A heartfelt apology, pampering her to his super best, and a literal fall to the knees wala apology.

The ML I liked so much is gone somewhere now😭😭he is being a jerk honestly 😭

And finally, Sicku 🤬He ruined and butchered every single character I loved. Aayi, Pallavi and now Raghav. 😭 he could not give proper dialogues to her and made her sound preachyHe ruined Aayi by making her abet a murderer, and now Raghav by making him behave rudely to Pallavi. So no fan of MHRW will forgive you for this 😡😭

We all said MHRW was different different. Bana diya na usko bhi wahi stupid cliche soap. Congrats makers 👏👏you have succeeded.

Please stop this regressive content asap!!! We don't want to see this nonsense just for stupid TRPs.

People are insensitive, and Twitter ko baare mein na hi baat karein toh behter hoga 🤢 it is a free trip to hell and most of them are waging keyboard wars. Toxic people. They have no filter nor sensitivity. And hoody seriously 😑😑 Bheja mein kuch hai ya nahi? I have nothing good to say about them. 😡

Vera I totally get you ...

This is not supposed to be like this, it's very hard to accept.

I am sure we will get a redemption but was it necessary to have another redemption and on what cost, their relationship will be strained.

The characters you mentioned and their 160 turn

I hope now TRP will rise sky high with Raghav wailing, crying amd being mad and palls? What will happen to her...

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Posted: 4 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: subbuappu

I am just not liking sending Raghav on guilt trip 2.0... You don't need to make Raghav 2.0 ... Just the need is for Raghav 1.1

The guy has a passion to make money... Let him do it. All you need is to show to get that done by legal methods.. thats all where you have to arrive. They changed the entire narrative overnight... It started with that concept and from this whole sudharofy got ???

Raghav 2.0 it is priya and what a reason over night.

Why we need another redemption and at what cost, it will be like a black mark on their relationship.

All the progress he made, things he did, sacrifice he made are dumped to make him egoistic and delusional and worth of being a redemption.

Everything they achieved together as RaghVi, all the progress gone now.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: Lonelythots

Just my two cents..

The problem with pallavi and most other female leads is that the audience wants them to be shown strong, always right kind of fl, family loving, no flaws kind of fl.. fans dont like an emotionally weak, flawed fl who does mistakes, learns, etcThese constraints restrict the writers to device an arc for them and flesh them out well.. it is this constraint that actually led to the rise in male leads prominence on itv.. they are emotionally weak, flawed, have a backstory which gives them room to play around and generate drama..

This was informative.

Its been long I have left watching ITV coz all the stories are same. I came across MHRW and got hooked.

I get it now what you mentioned. The FL character scope is restricted which makes her uni- dimensional.

Sigh if this is the fate of all the FLs

Edited by Isamreen - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: -abz-

What he needs to do:

I don't know why but I want to say it off once and for all. Raghav reflects a certain part in me, might be in the negative sense but the growth is what I wanted to see in him. He did grow and evolve in the redemption track but dissolving anger is not easy. It takes thousands of mistake and one huge guilt tripping action to reflect upon themselves. I will not and I cannot justify his actions. He has destroyed himself and Pallavi through and through in this track. Anger gets the worst in a person, sometimes, a person changes completely due to regression they feel from their actions.

Raghav was 17 when he saw the worst in front of his eyes. Seventeen is a tender age to hold responsibilities in the shoulder but the age is not tender enough to not learn from the mistakes. Growing up being split in the mental space is horrendous for any human being. He has issues, he has regrets, the point is to evolve from the worst and not become the worst. The world in his point of view runs through money, we all can understand that. I, despite hating his actions, can see where all this is coming from; anger is screening his rationality. What he is emoting is raw, matching with the real world quite understandably. He will regret his actions, he will regret his mistakes. This is also true that I don't want Pallavi to forgive him easily.

The sober thoughts fade when irrational anger surges an impulse in a person. Raghav has been impulsive ever since the beginning. Even now, he is being himself to Pallavi. The suppressed demons inside him has found an outlet.

What he tremendously needs is a therapist. He has been through a LOT. It's not normal to carry such a baggage. He needs to cry out his past. People call that a mental breakdown, in real, it is a mental let out. Honestly, people who cry their hearts out turn stronger in the end of the day. It takes guts to cry, to accept oneself, to break themselves free from the word called 'guilt'. When the outlet is suppressed, anger takes its form, impulse takes its form and it brings out the worst in a person.

Raghav didn't get a chance to acknowledge himself. He is in fact running away from him. He is hurting Pallavi in that process. I will be frank and direct to say this out every time, I am and will always be on Pallavi's side. More than Raghav, Pallavi has pulled me to her side. What he did to her in the past two episodes are horrific, he has hurt her tremendously but his demons need a calming embrace. Pallavi cannot give that to him, he needs to see through it himself. She is not some superhuman.

His anger issues need an assurance, an anchor. Neither Pallavi nor Amma can give that to him. It is Raghav who needs to see through himself. People holding such mental calamity usually deny their issues in front.

Those who cannot love themselves are incapable of giving love to others.

Love is not making the other person grow. Love is growing together.

Love cannot be possessive. Love gives a life time affirmation that the other person will be beside you not matter what goes wrong.

Love is assurance.

Raghav right now is at his worst, it really does not mean he cannot change.

I want a redefined love story of Raghav- Pallavi where they are not over possessive, where they hold each other emotionally and not physically.

This track can give us that prospect.

Though I loathe his actions, he can evolve from this. Learning does not need an age.

Beautifully written Abhi❤️ I just wish this happens and he realises and takes cognizance of his demons soon.

@b: Fingers crossed. 🤞🤞🤞

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Posted: 4 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: Wallflowers

I don't know what to say Sam 😭. I am so heartbroken Rn🥺. What they have made Raghav into, I am so so disappointed, I can't tell you.🥺

This could have been a great track but again the makers mess up things badly. I don't know how they gonna make things out of this mess they have created.

I get you 🥺 it's so disappointing.

I was dreading this track it can make or mess things for them.

Look what they have turn them into. No peace for them never.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Isamreen

Raghav 2.0 it is priya and what a reason over night.

Why we need another redemption and at what cost, it will be like a black mark on their relationship.

All the progress he made, things he did, sacrifice he made are dumped to make him egoistic and delusional and worth of being a redemption.

Everything they achieved together as RaghVi, all the progress gone now.

Yaar sahi mein... Agar dobaara ITV mein redemption poocha na toh dekhlena...

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Posted: 4 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: Isamreen

Vera I totally get you ...

This is not supposed to be like this, it's very hard to accept.

I am sure we will get a redemption but was it necessary to have another redemption and on what cost, their relationship will be strained.

The characters you mentioned and their 160 turn

I can't forgive him for this 😡😒

I hope now TRP will rise sky high with Raghav wailing, crying amd being mad and palls? What will happen to her...

It is just that being his fan, I can't reconcile with his actions. And it is very hard to accept.

@b: We should and we will. Even though I am upset, I am sure he will realise the folly of his actions soon. I want a true redemption and a love story that will stand the test of time. RR must lay his painful past to a rest to have a good future with Pallavi and he is the only person who can work on it. I want them to be happy. Sigh 🥺🥺

I swear if Sicku messes up this time, I will bash him myself. I have really lost hopes now.

No, a crying Raghav and broken Pallavi will not get them sky high TRPs. This show has a young gen following and not TRP aunties to like such cliche stuff. Atleast I think that is so.

Let's really hope for the best 💯🤞

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