All the things Wrong - Page 4

Originally posted by: Isamreen

I totally skipped Hyderabad track for the same and SunKeer.

They had bad days in theri relationship previously.

Both of them made mistakes and came out of it .

But this has become so one- sided.

I have given up on them showing anything related to pall. So much time and SS is given to all the other things like other random things but her backstory is not given.

As I said we feel connected to Raghav coz we knew who he was before he became RR, his struggle, his hardship, how he build the empire everything.

But we don't know who is Pallavi Sawant, her struggles, why she is so taken with D's everything.

Guess they are selective or bigoted

Just my two cents..

The problem with pallavi and most other female leads is that the audience wants them to be shown strong, always right kind of fl, family loving, no flaws kind of fl.. fans dont like an emotionally weak, flawed fl who does mistakes, learns, etcThese constraints restrict the writers to device an arc for them and flesh them out well.. it is this constraint that actually led to the rise in male leads prominence on itv.. they are emotionally weak, flawed, have a backstory which gives them room to play around and generate drama..

A show should set a moral example and this show through its innovative thinking and thrashing stereotypes has done that evidently

But now what is going on in the show, like every character through its progress must be reformed in the most impressive and impeccable manner.

But why Raghav is shown as an opposite, with remorse feelings to look at with venomous spite.
I can’t get what the makers think about while ruining a story, do they want trps, if then you can’t show an obfuscate, paranoid, obstinate lead losing his brains to crows and suddenly beginning to act irrational or like maniac:

Raghav through his acts of renewing himself and his benevolence has set an example. What a besmirch to his entire repute.
I feel my utmost pity for those numb people who still admire him for the style of cloths he wears and wants to ship him. This in a way suggests that you are yourself appreciating a rugged demonic into your life if he is attractive enough for you.
this post was really thought provoking, u spilled it out so well, Sam

I don't know what to say Sam 😭. I am so heartbroken Rn🥺. What they have made Raghav into, I am so so disappointed, I can't tell you.🥺

This could have been a great track but again the makers mess up things badly. I don't know how they gonna make things out of this mess they have created.

Originally posted by: Lonelythots

The point is raghav and pallavi are actually two different individuals who have a different moral compass. Yes, his anger issues that he himself calls it his enemy can be fixed with therapy.. but him having a different moral compass cannot be fixed! Its inherent. His life experiences have shaped his beliefs, his sense of right and wrong, his coping mechanisms, etc..Today it’s smuggling issue , tomorrow on something else.. they are wired differently and pallavi cannot go about saying i want him to change the way i like him to be however right she may be.. is he like some rehab patient that she will want to fix?? You can fix habits not traits.. At some point pallavi will have to understand practically that he is just wired differently.. yes, she loves a part of him but love doesnt work in a way that i will fix his other traits..

Raghav is an extremely self-destructive personality who knows he has a demon within him.. am not denying that he has a lovable side to his personality.. he is actually a dual personality who has the light and demon residing within him.. such people can have only tragic endings and i sincerely hope he has one!!

Yes, they have two different moral compass. The problem is, they don't acknowledge their problems. It is a matter of talking out. Raghav's impulse goes beyond the point of conversation. Bit that does not mean he cannot be tamed down. He has been calmed at several instances.

I remember how flawless their conversation was when Raghav revealed his past to Pallavi. They were the same CVs who gave us magnificent scenes, they are the same CVs who are giving such a crap in the name of plot.

All I can say is he needs therapy.

He is unable to handle his inner conflicts, asking for help will not make him low. I know, ITV will not shower us with such depth. In real, people like Raghav struggle with the inner turmoil, they basically cannot express and cannot keep it in. This becomes a mode to self destruction. Being married to such people is a very tough job. It drains both the physical and mental energy of the partner.

Anyways, coming to the point- I don't want Pallavi to forgive him easily, he cannot say such crass comments and move on out without knowing the effect of his words and behaviour.

His actions towards Pallavi is toxic. She does not deserve a bit of what he is doing to her. If he continues to let this grow, their relationship will end in ashes. (It happens that way in real life.)

As for Pallavi, she is a human. This would have destroyed her to the very core. Raghav has wrecked the hopes she has laid for him. The woman has been been as broken as Raghav. He's wounding her weak spots which is unacceptable. Despite her breaking, she will reach out to help his. This is what I don't want to see. He needs to learn this all by himself, Pallavi can be beside him but it his Raghav who needs to take the move. And now, I don't want Pallavi to bat an eye at him. She's not his punching bag.

We all anticipated the risk on Pallavi somewhere. It is the only way in which Raghav will realise his mistakes. Even then, Pallavi being at stake is unacceptable. This is toxic and complicated. If the CVs don't have the mettle to give us a raw redemption, they should not explore this path.

Edit: As for personality, everybody has a dual personality, they carry good and bad ego. Some people manage it well and some don't. Raghav does not know the art of management. He needs help. Not all of them have tragic ending, Raghav is perfectly tamable. He just needs the guidance.

Yaar ek baat batao when they introduced mandaar character we guys were upset and said they butccherd pallavi character

And they changed the track over night

Now they are trying to show something again something we started to complain again yaar thoda tho sabre rakho

If we keep on complaining about each and every track sikki key paas the only option will be to vind up the show kya is thAt good? plz I am not offending u dear even romance 24/7 is bored like sunny keerthi are doing

And the way they introduced RR first in the soap was same and he also told to Pallavi yesterday that old Raghav is still alive

Yaar he established his business since years and today Pallavi came and putting gun on his head and asking him to change and suddenly she started to stopped even eat his food and stoped using his things then obviously he will be upset right 🙄😟
And his character in this serial was introduced as arrogant and we all even liked and will be liking it right now thoda woh upset hai that’s why is old way is back right

And kab set ITV ML are setting examples for goodness 🤔

All ML in the ITV soaps have a flaw and fans are liking that flaws so they are getting TRP

Just wait and watch yaar jitna yeh ladeingey they will have that passionate love

And there more intresting upcoming scenes as they released the bts

And YESSS he was realy hit in black hoodey 😍😍😍 no doubt in that and if pallavi hurts we can see emotional RR 🥰

As in the precap he told to leave her the house now she will get hurt and in serious condition he will repent for saying it to her

And we hear more emotion from bottom of his heart

Wait plz don’t make sikki to change the track overnight and mess up the story and vind it up in a month or so

To be frank I am really liking the current track

U also try to understand him yaar

Sorry if I hurt u🙏🏻🙏🏻

Originally posted by: Lonelythots

Just my two cents..

The problem with pallavi and most other female leads is that the audience wants them to be shown strong, always right kind of fl, family loving, no flaws kind of fl.. fans dont like an emotionally weak, flawed fl who does mistakes, learns, etcThese constraints restrict the writers to device an arc for them and flesh them out well.. it is this constraint that actually led to the rise in male leads prominence on itv.. they are emotionally weak, flawed, have a backstory which gives them room to play around and generate drama..

But the same audience wants the FL wants to cry buckets ... I often think does emotionally strong person and crying face go hand in hand!?? I know crying is not a sign of weak emotion but always crying is weak right?? Balance is what needed... Don't know what exactly is needed to the audience... What audience looks in every track is FL being mahaan and all forgiving and crying in whole track but right at the end will save the family from enemies... This is applicable for all tracks no matter what the track is about...

No no they are not showing anything worst dear try to understand even their prospect they are showing even old RR is alive

And Pallavi is asking so much over night which is not going well to RR but it’s ok as per bts he will see Pallavi hurt and will be emotional

I am liking the current track we can’t always complain about ongoing track

Shukar karo this is not a 2 women and one man track uhhh

Originally posted by: Isamreen

Extreme Ideologies

When this track started most of us were so excited that we will finally get to see the conflicting ideologies of Raghav and Pallavi.

What was not anticipated was this going so extreme.

It could have been well-thought and acted upon, slow understanding and realisation, lots of conversation and being respectful of each other's opinions.

What follows was a clash of egos.

Both are egoistic and don't want to bend or compromise. I think that's not how marriages work out or sustained.

They could have approached each other with love and care, a bit sensitivity, a bit empathy.

Palls having the fear to lose him forever, and lead rest of her life without him, her being deprived of most of the relationship in her life being an orphan, getting thrown out of in laws whom she considered as her own father and family, her friends turned against her, facing psych-murderer of a husband.

This saying and convaying all of this instead of boycotting him would have done. Showing her fear and concern instead of being stubborn all the times. In her mind and heart she too knows she is being harsh.

Raghav doesn't want to change for sure, he thinks he is right and realistic. He has seen his fam suffering from his childhood coz of lack of money. He had nothing on his side but his work and empire all his life, he doesn't want to get back to his previous position of feeling helpless and powerless especially when his close ones are in danger. He wants to make life easy for himself and his family.

This could have been said and conveyed instead of going bersek, drunk and unreasonable.

I think this track should have been right after their marriage, it would have made more impact then- pall not using things he own and willing to do her own job and earn for her, opposing him for his wrong ways and all the wrong things done to her by him.

This track has butchered their relationship and Raghav's character dumping all the redemption and character progress they had.

agree with you

This track started with a good premise of ideological differences. It should have ended with Raghav adopting safer business practices & Pallavi seeing life in greys does exist. Its not all black or white either.

With subminimal efforts at writing, not having sensible dialogs, no conversations between the leads(its only fights or arguments) which could have given a logical end to this track along with a personal & relationship growth for both. The cvs have taken the most easiest route to make Raghav unreasonable, egoistic & bull headed and money minded. Pallavi has also gone to the other extreme where in she comes across as wanting to change his entire personality. Both are very wrongly scripted & executed here. What could have been shown peacefully has taken on dramatic turn, dividing the audience for the leads, but what has to be realized here is the leads have taken a fall because there a lack of story telling. Easiest way out has been taken make Raghav extremely rude, reduced to a criminal thereby he suffers from terrible guilt & whatever redemption is planned in future. Another point the track has just started but the climax is very close by. This rushed drama is not needed at all. The art of balance, subtleties of story telling, nuances, pacing of story etc all have disappeared from the show!!

Originally posted by: -abz-

Yes, they have two different moral compass. The problem is, they don't acknowledge their problems. It is a matter of talking out. Raghav's impulse goes beyond the point of conversation.

I remember how flawless their conversation was when Raghav revealed his past to Pallavi. They were the same CVs who have us magnificent scenes, they are the same CVs who are giving such a crap in the name of plot.

All I can say is he needs therapy. He is unable to handle his inner conflicts, asking for help will not make him low. I know, ITV will not shower us with such depth. In real, people like Raghav struggle with the inner turmoil, they basically cannot express and cannot keep it in. This becomes a mode to self destruction. Being married to such people is a very tough job. It drains both the physical and mental energy of the partner.

Anyways, coming to the point- I don't want Pallavi to forgive him easily, he cannot say such crass comments and move on out without knowing the effect of his words and behaviour.

His actions towards Pallavi is toxic. She does not deserve a bit of what he is doing to her. If he continues to let this grow, their relationship will end in ashes. (It happens that way in real life.)

As for Pallavi, she is a human. This would have destroyed her to the very core. Raghav has wrecked the hopes she has laid for him. The woman has been been as broken as Raghav. He's wounding her weak spots which is unacceptable. Despite her breaking, she will reach out to help his. This is what I don't want to see. He needs to learn this all by himself, Pallavi can be beside him but it his Raghav who needs to take the move. And now, I don't want Pallavi to bat an eye at him. She's not his punching bag.

We all anticipated the risk on Pallavi somewhere. It is the only way in which Raghav will realise his mistakes. Even then, Pallavi being at stake is unacceptable. This is toxic and complicated. If the CVs don't have the mettle to give us a raw redemption, they should not explore this path.

This is such high expectations from itv tbh 😂raghav’s redemption 1.0 itself was surprising as per itv standards . And with the current competency of the writers, i doubt they can flesh out another one. the heavy dramatic dialogues by the characters and the drama is so typical itv. Its just that they have run out of ideas and so falling back to the cliches... their relationship was always disbalanced.. pallavi is always on moral high ground so how can it even be balanced ?? Is raghav going to realise his mistake or are they going to move him to the more darker side for having attacked pallavi?
the point of contention right now is that the two characters are sparring over money issues.. its not about smuggling and its ill effects on his family which is ideally what i would think pallavi will educate him about.. how does pallavi being hurt now change his stance on money is power belief which is what pallavi seems to want to change. ?? Atleast majority of her dialogues say so.. the intent of the track and the dialogues by both the lead characters dont match.. and audience like us will have to use twisted logics to justify the writing..

Pallavi getting shot is probably cuz shivangi needing a well deserved break so the dramatic plot point introduced to justify reducing her screenspace for 2-3 episodes..