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Posted: 14 years ago
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I am not a Hater of Gay people, but would like to raise the concern about how media and society is forcing this idea of being gay as "open minded"...instead of just concidering it the "trend" of today, it would be better if peope look at gay people's lives and where they are headed.
Indian media, these days is forcing gay culture into the youth, which is definetly impacting the youth...the west has seen the worse of it, the person who fought for gay rights through out his life time, has now realized the truth and is fighting against it...
Statistics show that most of the gay people end up ending their lives...please just dont support this just because its fancy or ur favorite actor supports it or u think its being open minded, get the fact right...finally i would like to say, the more we support the more people we are victimising
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Its just my request for heterosexual people with children that before supporting homosexuality, please think what your reaction will be if you find your children to be homosexual. If you will be very happy after finding that your children are homosexual, please then only support homosexuality. If you will be like Devyani, please dont try to show that you are very brave to accept it and support it.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: joiningnow

I am not saying homosexuality is wrong. Of course its not a disease and its anyone's choice what they love and what they want to choose. But we cant deny that its unnatural because God has made the Man and woman relationship to produce the offsprings (children) and thats how the world goes on which is not possible naturally in homosexuality. And please no offenses as I am not saying that homosexuality is wrong. Everyone have a right and can choose what they want.


According to you god created men and women , Then why did he/ she created gay or lesbians.. Why did he/she created eunuchs , Why there is not equity anywhere in the society ...There is no god i believe ,..It is our perception that God created this , nature created that ...This is what our so called hypocrite society teaches us

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Posted: 14 years ago
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You know, Pia, I was wondering where all the homophobes had gone. Ah, here they are, spouting ill-disguised ignorant prejudice and invoking God to justify heterosexuality! I have to roll on the floor laughing when people of India justify heterosexuality just because it helps to produce babies! Right, we don't have enough babies in India! Look how empty our country has become since the release of "Dostana"! Everybody has turned gay!🤪
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Posted: 14 years ago
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You cant deny the facts by just laughing at it. Its a big debate that whether God exists or not. We can never convince anyone that God dosnt exist or exist. Its our personal belief. Eunuchs is a genetic defect and the research is going on homosexual people also whether its genetic variation (We cant say its genetic defect because it doesnt harm anyone) or environmental affect. Its another big debate that why Eunuchs and Homosexual people are created by God. Some creations are genetic and some are environmental. Like we can never justify the creations of criminals that they are genetic, of course they are environmental and we can never question why God created criminals. Being a criminal depends upon individual and on his or her environment. Most of the people supporting homosexuality in this forum are very young and I am not quite sure how strong supporter of homosexuality will they be when their own children turn out to be homosexual or how strong there wish will be to turn their own children to be homosexual. I have never said that being homosexual is a wrong thing and its not known whether its genetic or environmental. If its genetic, than an individual doesnt have control on it and society cant blame them. If its environmental, like I heard a girl was tortured a lot by men and she developed liking for a female and never wanted to be with men again, of course, we cant say that she is wrong being a homosexual. But like we never wish that many Eunuchs should born because there life is so difficult, its not we dont respect them. Every individual deserves respect. Similarly we dont promote homosexuality, because we dont want our children to be homosexual. But We cant deny this fact also that being a homosexual is beyond anyone's control. Any relation which has true LOVE involved should always be respected but to support it is a different thing.

I have always said that everyone should have right to say what they think is right but being sarcastic and rude on other's comments is always a sign of immaturity, not a healthy discussion.
Edited by joiningnow - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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You cant deny the facts by just laughing at it.
sexual orientation is based on both nature and nurture...nature is natural, but atleast, we shouldnt nurture our younger generation into homosexuality. If this is considered natural, then Zoophilia (some countrys actually permit it if its a healthy relationship between the animal and human) , Pedophilia,Necrophilia...there is no end to it...please help people, especially the youth to know what is natural and what is a mental condition so that the world mayb a better place for living and humanity may remain!
To all the "God" haters...do u know that through out human history, the top most number of murders were committed by athiests? Genghis khan who killed most number of humans in human history, was an athiest, adolf hitler 2nd position, athiest. Joseph stallin 3rd most number of murders, an athiest. I agree that there is a lot of violence in the name of religion, but just being an athiest doesnt make u a humanitarian!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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The topic of homosexuality is something that most Indians do not wish to address openly. Perhaps Your Minister is blinded by his own ego and way of life that he does not look around and face the reality of the world. Homosexuality indeed cannot be a disease and unnatural. Someone needs to address this with him. Anyways, I am Indian, living in Canada and homosexuality is quite open here and we are not judgemental. Although there are some who are, we have no right to judge anyone, at the end of our lives we all are answereable to God and only to that Almighty. Kam
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Posted: 14 years ago
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God will judge us all individually for whatever sins we commit.

If you believe in God, you believe that homosexuality is a sin as much as u believe adultery as sin, as mush as u believe lust as sin...but we do not discriminate people who are adulterous, many actors are! even after their acts are open in public, they maintain their status.We dont DESCRIMINATE them, but at the same time we dont encourage them, we dont set them as examples and appreciate people who suport adultery.but definetly we treat them equally as humans! Descriminating any sinner is the most hypocrytic thing to do and in some religions, the dealiest sin (more than any sexual sin) is Laziness...iam guilty of commting it every day...but i dont encourage my kids to do it neither do i support people who encourage it!

If you dont believe in god,even then homosexuality is an individual's sexual orientation.and as i said earlier that sexual orientation is based on both nature and nurture(scientifically defined) , my only concern is that we should not nurture the younger generation into any thing which is so ambiguous, which has a history of suicides, whose existence is still a cause of concern for a healthy life style( which includes a healthy successful family life).How many successful happy gay marriages have we witnessed...if we are not really confident about it, then are u willing to risk ur kids future into something like this? Not that heterosexual marriages are successful all the time, but atleast its time tested, we have many examples. My statement is not against homosexual people, i have as much respect towards them as any other individual. If God has not restricted any kind of natural resources like air, water, mind, soul and most beautiful feelings to them, who are we to judge against them.

My cause of concern is that dont irrationally support and encourage homosexuality just because all the fancy people in the world are doing it, stop, think about it, put ur own self and ur children in that place and then decide...if we are supporting everything the world offers irrationally, what impact will it have on our future generation.

Sexual revolution was a very big thing in the west, many people supported it...the result...many divorces, many immoral activities, many suicides, many children lost the happy family environment.Now we consider it as a bad episode, but at that time it was a bit hit!

If you support something so ardently today, without knowing where it is headed to, then i think its not a wise thing to do...

Once again, its all about homosexuality as a subject as how we encouraging it will nurture our future generation's life, not anything against the homosexual people themselves

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: maryadafan1

You know, Pia, I was wondering where all the homophobes had gone. Ah, here they are, spouting ill-disguised ignorant prejudice and invoking God to justify heterosexuality! I have to roll on the floor laughing when people of India justify heterosexuality just because it helps to produce babies! Right, we don't have enough babies in India! Look how empty our country has become since the release of "Dostana"! Everybody has turned gay!🤪

sooo... let me get this straight.. if someone says it's a naturally biological process through which man and woman unite to produce children, which is not possible NATURALLY in homosexuals, AND/OR if someone who is religious feels it homosexuality is wrong, against the will of God... they r .. wht did u say.. ill disguised? ignorant? lol. seriously? u r ignorant if u can't accept other's opinions and views.. the person clearly said she's not a hater.. if some1 does have strong religious beliefs, beliefs that don't support homosexuality, that honestly that not mean they r ignorant or ill-disguided :| i am offended by this.. being ignorant wud've been some1 who doesn't accept homosexuality as a "common" trend in society today, that has been there since a long while.. being "ignorant" wud be someone who thinks homosexuals shud be eradicated from the face of the earth becuz whtever..
but saying that one BELIEVES homosexuality is wrong, based on how they PERCEIVE nature, or their religious beliefs, is not wrong, not ill-disguised, and DEFINITELY NOT IGNORANT..
now, as for some1 else here asking question about why God creating gays? LOL. God did not "create" gays.. he created human beings.. he gave them a brain to think, he gave them certain skills, abilities, physique... he established processes, like mating, like birthing, like dying.. and then he assigned us rules... God does not create homosexuals, or hetero's.. just like He does not create criminals or murders.. by your reasoning, i'd go ahead and ask u why exactly criminals shud be punished, since really, GOD CREATED CRIMINALS...?????????????????????
i am NOT comparing criminals to homos.. i am just giving u an example, of the fact that wht we are, homo, hetero, is up to us.. yes, i understand, one can't help who one is attracted to.. but it's really not as simple as that,, a lot of factors come into play, which influences one to become homo or hetero.. but God does not create guys who will fall in love with others guys= gays .. or vice verca..
yes, He does create, mixed gender (sorry, i'm not sure wht the term is for them) people, basically the ones called "khusras" in our culture... all I wud say is, He has His own reasons.. He is God.. just like he creates someone disabled, he creates someone completely healthy, he creates khusras.. all His creations.. we can penalize people based on who they have become due to their choices - aka criminals.. but we can't penalize people who have been made the way they are by God, by nature - aka khusras..
as for guys who are homos or girls who are lesbs, i honestly don't have a firm stand on that.. i do believe homosexuality is wrong, it is a sin... but i would not want to kill all homos, or penalize them in any other way.. AND i am completely secure abt my sexuality (this is in response to some other reply i read here, abt people against homos are insecure of their own sexuality...??? 😕😕 i think many people are homophobics just because they feel it is wrong, a rebellion against nature, and they don't want their kids or people they love to be affected by it.. hey, i'm just presenting different perspective here😊 yes some homophobics are hypocrites..lol.. but not all.😊)
SOOO...
to conclude, being open-minded means you accept the fact that this world is prejudiced, maryadafan.. EVERYONE has some or other prejudice.. having prejudice is NOT wrong.. unless u mean harm based on ur prejudices.. being open-minded means u accept that not every1 will have the same view as u.. being open-minded means some people CAN still have traditional views on certain topics that the society has moved on with.. being open-minded means people CAN simply accept or reject an idea based on their religious beliefs.. and being open-minded means accepting that just because someone has not modernized their ideologies with the society does not mean they are insane, or ignorant.. rather, it could simply just mean, that they accept the change, they have no problem with others following it, but they r still uncomfortable with it, and they'd rather not have their own loved one following those ideas.. which, is the case for me..
but if u still think i am ignorant.. or selfish.. or narrow-minded.. or whtever the terms that r used to term people who dare say anything against conventional/modern views on issues like 'homosexuality' or 'premarital sex'... feel free to think of me that way, after all, to you your opinions and perspectives, to me, mine. 😉
last but not the least, if it was not already clear from my post, i am not some angry anti-homo, so plz don't take offense from my post.. i am just presenting a different side to this matter, for people who feel that any1 who feels like me r .. well i won't repeat myself again and again :P
but we are not wrong to feel a certain way, just like u don't feel u r wrong to have certain views.. and i won't change my views just because the society has come to be more acceptable...
the society doesn't make me, i make the society.
Edited by Sid4TeamCanada - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: prietyp

God will judge us all individually for whatever sins we commit.

If you believe in God, you believe that homosexuality is a sin as much as u believe adultery as sin, as mush as u believe lust as sin
...but we do not discriminate people who are adulterous, many actors are! even after their acts are open in public, they maintain their status.We dont DESCRIMINATE them, but at the same time we dont encourage them, we dont set them as examples and appreciate people who suport adultery.but definetly we treat them equally as humans! Descriminating any sinner is the most hypocrytic thing to do and in some religions, the dealiest sin (more than any sexual sin) is Laziness...iam guilty of commting it every day...but i dont encourage my kids to do it neither do i support people who encourage it!

My cause of concern is that dont irrationally support and encourage homosexuality just because all the fancy people in the world are doing it, stop, think about it, put ur own self and ur children in that place and then decide...if we are supporting everything the world offers irrationally, what impact will it have on our future generation.

Once again, its all about homosexuality as a subject as how we encouraging it will nurture our future generation's life, not anything against the homosexual people themselves

👏👏 well said. 😊
though, i don't believe lust is a sin :P i mean, lusting after ur hubby won't be a sin, right? .. i guess, even generally, lust isn't a sin.. ACTING on that lust , though, without marriage,that's a whole different case.. 😊
love ur last statement. it's all about the fact that some of us just don't want to encourage our younger generations to this idea.. but yes, in the end, everyone is answerable to God.. not to each other.
@Joiningnow: IF's been always known for its share of immaturity.. 😆
Edited by Sid4TeamCanada - 14 years ago

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